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I don't know if Americans realize what happened between the US and Denmark.

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  • Randahl FinkR Randahl Fink

    I don't know if Americans realize what happened between the US and Denmark.

    No matter whom I listen to, the feeling is the same: Our bilateral relationship is dead.

    I grew up in a country filled with gratitude towards The US, because of The Normandy Landings. The US was loved.

    The feeling now is anger. Our Kingdom has been threatened twice in 100 years: Hitler's occupation and Trump's attempted annexation of Greenland.

    It saddens me, but I sense this will not easily be forgotten.

    💔

    NoBorgH This user is from outside of this forum
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    NoBorg
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    #39

    @randahl

    Democracies in the West should work as 'universal healthcare' works. Back in the 40's Germany got sick and all chipped in to cure it from the disease. This time it's the US that needs help.
    New technologies allow for mutations of the virus to spread.
    What we really need for the long term is a vaccine.

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    • AndyA Andy

      @randahl Too right. Most of the people I currently speak to in Britain want the country to cut ties with America completely, which is so sad after Normandy and WW2 but totally understandable. American voters have been unbelievably stupid falling for Trump’s old school far right rhetoric. The lessons of history are clearly fading with a new generation, and a new world order’s arising. I have a very uneasy feeling it’ll all end in tears…

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      wrote on last edited by
      #40

      @AGT But the Europe isn't much better. UK left the EU because of similar lies. The right wing extremists are growing everywhere. Not even Germany is excempt. We are all being influenced by russian troll factories as seen in several leaks and accidental doxing by twitter.

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      • Randahl FinkR Randahl Fink

        I don't know if Americans realize what happened between the US and Denmark.

        No matter whom I listen to, the feeling is the same: Our bilateral relationship is dead.

        I grew up in a country filled with gratitude towards The US, because of The Normandy Landings. The US was loved.

        The feeling now is anger. Our Kingdom has been threatened twice in 100 years: Hitler's occupation and Trump's attempted annexation of Greenland.

        It saddens me, but I sense this will not easily be forgotten.

        💔

        Morten KjeldgaardM This user is from outside of this forum
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        Morten Kjeldgaard
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        #41

        @randahl There are a few people in Denmark who still believe USA is our closest ally, those people are all found on Christiansborg.

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        • C.S.StrowbridgeC C.S.Strowbridge

          @randahl

          It's the same in Canada and I fear the only way for the US to recover is with extreme measures.

          Mass executions.

          Trump and his entire administration have to go. The leadership in both houses have to go. State level Republicans who let him on the ballot have to go.

          So many people have to go that the next Trump-like person to rise will be killed by their own party to protect they own lives.

          It's the only way I will trust the US again and I've talk to many who agree.

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          #42

          @csstrowbridge @randahl

          Not extreme measures, no executions, it's something simpler: Courage. Courage from the Senate, the house, and judges. Courage also from the people in peaceful protests.
          Newsom was right on what he said at Davos.

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          • Randahl FinkR Randahl Fink

            I don't know if Americans realize what happened between the US and Denmark.

            No matter whom I listen to, the feeling is the same: Our bilateral relationship is dead.

            I grew up in a country filled with gratitude towards The US, because of The Normandy Landings. The US was loved.

            The feeling now is anger. Our Kingdom has been threatened twice in 100 years: Hitler's occupation and Trump's attempted annexation of Greenland.

            It saddens me, but I sense this will not easily be forgotten.

            💔

            Scott D. Strader 😐S This user is from outside of this forum
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            Scott D. Strader 😐
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            #43

            @randahl I appreciate the comments in this thread. It solidifies, even if only anecdotally, the on-the-ground anger that I wasn't sure that Europeans were feeling. As they should. I just wish the leaders would act and isolate the disease following Mark Carney's sober assessment.

            Some of us knew everything was over the night of the election (and before it, if this unthinkable present came true). European leaders should have known it too. I hope for the world they're at that point now.

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            • Randahl FinkR Randahl Fink

              I don't know if Americans realize what happened between the US and Denmark.

              No matter whom I listen to, the feeling is the same: Our bilateral relationship is dead.

              I grew up in a country filled with gratitude towards The US, because of The Normandy Landings. The US was loved.

              The feeling now is anger. Our Kingdom has been threatened twice in 100 years: Hitler's occupation and Trump's attempted annexation of Greenland.

              It saddens me, but I sense this will not easily be forgotten.

              💔

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              D C Fitzgerald
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              @randahl

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              • GhostOnTheHalfShellG GhostOnTheHalfShell

                @Rii_cck @randahl

                Conviction cannot just stop it Donald Trump. The billionaires who put him in power and who push this agenda of annexation, so they can have the spoils distributed amongst themselves, they too have to be dealt with.. the way to deal with them is to make billionaires not possible. No one should have that much wealth. The companies that make that level of wealth possible should not be also be possible.

                Taxation and antitrust are a necessity

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                Frank Heijkamp
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                @GhostOnTheHalfShell
                No one needs that much money to live.
                @Rii_cck @randahl

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                • Randahl FinkR Randahl Fink

                  I don't know if Americans realize what happened between the US and Denmark.

                  No matter whom I listen to, the feeling is the same: Our bilateral relationship is dead.

                  I grew up in a country filled with gratitude towards The US, because of The Normandy Landings. The US was loved.

                  The feeling now is anger. Our Kingdom has been threatened twice in 100 years: Hitler's occupation and Trump's attempted annexation of Greenland.

                  It saddens me, but I sense this will not easily be forgotten.

                  💔

                  Ernst Greiner 🇪🇺E This user is from outside of this forum
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                  Ernst Greiner 🇪🇺
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                  #46

                  @randahl

                  It's not just Denmark — it's all of Western Europe!

                  Trump has torn the USA out of modern Western societies(a fact that's been clear since March 2025).
                  The USA _was_ the heart of modern Western societies.

                  This vacuum has yet to be filled; I have absolutely no idea where we are heading.

                  Even if Trump dies within the next year and if Vance blows up the rest and MAGA implodes, everything that happened last year — and is still ongoing — will shape the next decades.

                  This is a fact I am fully aware of, and it will shape the rest of my life...

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                  • Frank BennettF Frank Bennett

                    @randahl They've lost the majority of Americans as well. The only things the junta have going for them at this point is control over instruments of violence and money conduits.

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                    #47

                    It's bigger than that. America has turned its ugly side towards Europe, and we cannot help but see it. You could compare America to Harvey Weinstein—harassing everyone for decades, but while we have been disgusted in private we kept diplomatic ties because of power relations. Well, now that it became targeted at us the facade is broken, we cannot pretend not to see it any more, and we are embarassed to ever have been associated. It goes deeper than your current leadership.
                    @fgbjr @randahl

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                    • Heather  EvansF Heather Evans

                      @randahl
                      I’m just waiting for his next brain fart, because you know it’s coming.
                      General Bone Spurs is consistent with his idiocy if nothing else.

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                      @feather1952

                      The orange one is just the puppet for the Republican Party/Project 2025.
                      Yes, his mental decline and overall madness adds to it, but it will only get worse when he's gone...
                      To get this shit-show fixed you have to get rid of the Republicans (party and those who voted for them).

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                      • Martin Vermeer FCDM Martin Vermeer FCD

                        @notsoloud @randahl And now that you mention it

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                        #49

                        @martinvermeer
                        Yeah, I thought about that, but this was also part of clearing the Germans out, so not a completely obvious threat to the country. But people were relieved when they left, it wasn't a given thing.

                        The Soviet invasion plans for Denmark, complete with gas attacks, amphibious landings and nuclear attack were very different.
                        @randahl

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                        • Randahl FinkR Randahl Fink

                          I don't know if Americans realize what happened between the US and Denmark.

                          No matter whom I listen to, the feeling is the same: Our bilateral relationship is dead.

                          I grew up in a country filled with gratitude towards The US, because of The Normandy Landings. The US was loved.

                          The feeling now is anger. Our Kingdom has been threatened twice in 100 years: Hitler's occupation and Trump's attempted annexation of Greenland.

                          It saddens me, but I sense this will not easily be forgotten.

                          💔

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                          jeanpaulpognon
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                          @randahl Russia delivered Europe and the nazi camps, not the USA. USA wanted to administrate France after the D-Day. De Gaulle took them by surprise re organising the territory into departments. Since, USA lies about WW2. It's time to remember the true history. I'm french and i'm soooo sad to consider it that way.

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                          • Randahl FinkR Randahl Fink

                            I don't know if Americans realize what happened between the US and Denmark.

                            No matter whom I listen to, the feeling is the same: Our bilateral relationship is dead.

                            I grew up in a country filled with gratitude towards The US, because of The Normandy Landings. The US was loved.

                            The feeling now is anger. Our Kingdom has been threatened twice in 100 years: Hitler's occupation and Trump's attempted annexation of Greenland.

                            It saddens me, but I sense this will not easily be forgotten.

                            💔

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                            Babs E. Blue #IStandW/Zelensky
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                            @randahl You can’t trust Trump- EVER- no one should

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                            • NoBorgH NoBorg

                              @csstrowbridge @randahl

                              Not extreme measures, no executions, it's something simpler: Courage. Courage from the Senate, the house, and judges. Courage also from the people in peaceful protests.
                              Newsom was right on what he said at Davos.

                              Link Preview Image
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                              C.S.Strowbridge
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                              @hadon @randahl

                              Their time for courage came and went. Now we have to make sure no one in their position will ever allow another Trump to rise.

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                              • StianS Stian

                                It's bigger than that. America has turned its ugly side towards Europe, and we cannot help but see it. You could compare America to Harvey Weinstein—harassing everyone for decades, but while we have been disgusted in private we kept diplomatic ties because of power relations. Well, now that it became targeted at us the facade is broken, we cannot pretend not to see it any more, and we are embarassed to ever have been associated. It goes deeper than your current leadership.
                                @fgbjr @randahl

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                                @sab @randahl I don't disagree. It's only that as an American citizen (for now) I see American problems.

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                                • GhostOnTheHalfShellG GhostOnTheHalfShell

                                  @Rii_cck @randahl

                                  Conviction cannot just stop it Donald Trump. The billionaires who put him in power and who push this agenda of annexation, so they can have the spoils distributed amongst themselves, they too have to be dealt with.. the way to deal with them is to make billionaires not possible. No one should have that much wealth. The companies that make that level of wealth possible should not be also be possible.

                                  Taxation and antitrust are a necessity

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                                  Andi H
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                                  #54

                                  @GhostOnTheHalfShell @Rii_cck @randahl
                                  For the billionaires it isn't about the cash value of money, it's about the race to be the most wealthy it's just a number (not caring about the rest of us). Trump has seen that being the US president allows him many opportunities to increase his (personal) "nett worth". Remember Elon has moved the goal post with his Trillion target... expect the billionaires to work (us) harder to aim for the Elon target...

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                                  • Frank BennettF Frank Bennett

                                    @sab @randahl I don't disagree. It's only that as an American citizen (for now) I see American problems.

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                                    #55

                                    For sure, and that's of course what you should be focusing on. It's uplifting to see Minneapolis taking a stance—clearly you're not alone.

                                    I think the Danish/European sentiment @randahl points to is however that something fundamental has been broken between the US and Europe, and for the first time Trump has done enough damage that it will not just return to normal once America gets rid of trumpism. We are not only fed up with Trump and his regime, but with the whole American hegemony.
                                    @fgbjr

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                                    • Randahl FinkR Randahl Fink

                                      I don't know if Americans realize what happened between the US and Denmark.

                                      No matter whom I listen to, the feeling is the same: Our bilateral relationship is dead.

                                      I grew up in a country filled with gratitude towards The US, because of The Normandy Landings. The US was loved.

                                      The feeling now is anger. Our Kingdom has been threatened twice in 100 years: Hitler's occupation and Trump's attempted annexation of Greenland.

                                      It saddens me, but I sense this will not easily be forgotten.

                                      💔

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                                      #56

                                      @randahl I don't think the relation is dead... I think it will be a difficult one while Mr Drumpf is in office, but while EU is formed around institutions, the US is more individualistic... meaning that just as he aims to destroy what the previous built, the next one might very well undo much of what he built. While that is not nearly as good for the US, it might mean that the relations between the two countries survive Drumpf.
                                      On the other hand... this depends on who will be the next POTUS.

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                                      • GrumpyDad 🇺🇦🇵🇸G GrumpyDad 🇺🇦🇵🇸

                                        @randahl The north remembers

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                                        Randahl Fink
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                                        @grumpydad … like a 200-year-old bowhead whale.

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                                        • TarnportT Tarnport

                                          @jgivoni @randahl I'm not disagreeing. And we should not refuse community to anyone who is ready to help push back the evil.

                                          What I am saying however might not sit so well with you: Trump is a symptom, not a cause. That's my opinion as someone who watched it happen over 28 years, from the first time I sat up and said, "omg - oh no." Trump's way was paved.

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                                          @Tarnport I don't doubt it.

                                          But I also don't think that if it hadn't been Trump, it would have been somebody else. Very few would have had the luck AND the skills to turn whatever it was into the force it is now, actively eroding the democratic defenses that should have prevented this outcome.

                                          And right now, if we are on the brink of "war", we're on the brink of "war" with Trump and his administration, not the American people.

                                          But everything you said is true as well.

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