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  • Randahl FinkR Randahl Fink

    I don't know if Americans realize what happened between the US and Denmark.

    No matter whom I listen to, the feeling is the same: Our bilateral relationship is dead.

    I grew up in a country filled with gratitude towards The US, because of The Normandy Landings. The US was loved.

    The feeling now is anger. Our Kingdom has been threatened twice in 100 years: Hitler's occupation and Trump's attempted annexation of Greenland.

    It saddens me, but I sense this will not easily be forgotten.

    💔

    David SchmidtI This user is from outside of this forum
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    David Schmidt
    wrote on last edited by
    #66

    @randahl Much like the situation in Russia, many citizens remain unaware of the profound damage their leadership is inflicting on the world – both in terms of tangible destruction and the lasting stain on global perception. These are wounds that will take decades to heal.

    Germans, in particular, may still recall the weight of such a legacy, having faced the harsh reality of being held accountable for the actions of their ancestors.

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    • Randahl FinkR Randahl Fink

      I don't know if Americans realize what happened between the US and Denmark.

      No matter whom I listen to, the feeling is the same: Our bilateral relationship is dead.

      I grew up in a country filled with gratitude towards The US, because of The Normandy Landings. The US was loved.

      The feeling now is anger. Our Kingdom has been threatened twice in 100 years: Hitler's occupation and Trump's attempted annexation of Greenland.

      It saddens me, but I sense this will not easily be forgotten.

      💔

      R This user is from outside of this forum
      R This user is from outside of this forum
      Ross McConnell
      wrote on last edited by
      #67

      @randahl The venal kleptocracy behind Trump is today exerting influence around the world, Trump is but a figurehead. Until people realise that this is about regular people versus the top 0.1% and their enablers, things will not get better. In the U.K. and US, both mainstream parties have been captured by corporate and / or Zionist paymasters, which disenfranchises voters. It’s unsurprising 1/3 of people (much more actually) don’t vote.

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      • Randahl FinkR Randahl Fink

        I don't know if Americans realize what happened between the US and Denmark.

        No matter whom I listen to, the feeling is the same: Our bilateral relationship is dead.

        I grew up in a country filled with gratitude towards The US, because of The Normandy Landings. The US was loved.

        The feeling now is anger. Our Kingdom has been threatened twice in 100 years: Hitler's occupation and Trump's attempted annexation of Greenland.

        It saddens me, but I sense this will not easily be forgotten.

        💔

        Mathew StormS This user is from outside of this forum
        Mathew StormS This user is from outside of this forum
        Mathew Storm
        wrote on last edited by
        #68

        @randahl

        Similar vibes in Canada. The 200+ year partnership is dead, shattered in what felt like minutes.

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        • Mark Shane HaydenM Mark Shane Hayden

          @randahl I think it is a lot for Americans to process, especially the significant majority of them who are not engaged in global affairs. Canadians very much relate to and sympathise with what Denmark is going through right now. The feelings of betrayal and anger and frustration and loss of trust are with respect to the USA are PROFOUND.

          I don't think many Americans, regardless of their political leanings, really do understand gow we, and increasingly the rest of the world, perceive their country.

          NOT THE PEOPLE...but their country. We mostly feel sorry for the people of the USA.

          But they MUST know this: clobbering the GOP in the midterms will not make it better. Electing a new president will not make it better. Y'all elected a FASCIST regime that is rapidly descending into totalitarianism.

          Carney is right. This world order is over, and it will take decades for relations with the USA to find a new normal and it will NEVER be the old normal again. Voting won't be enough to fix this it's only a start.

          Dread Pirate John Scab🚫J This user is from outside of this forum
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          Dread Pirate John Scab🚫
          wrote on last edited by
          #69

          @msh @randahl

          Sorry but no. This is a classic case of the frogs gradually getting boiled in water. The level of American exceptionalism is petrifying

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          • GhostOnTheHalfShellG GhostOnTheHalfShell

            @Rii_cck @randahl

            Conviction cannot just stop it Donald Trump. The billionaires who put him in power and who push this agenda of annexation, so they can have the spoils distributed amongst themselves, they too have to be dealt with.. the way to deal with them is to make billionaires not possible. No one should have that much wealth. The companies that make that level of wealth possible should not be also be possible.

            Taxation and antitrust are a necessity

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            Virginicus
            wrote on last edited by
            #70

            @GhostOnTheHalfShell @Rii_cck @randahl Taxation won’t happen until the public image of billionaires is shattered. That’s why they’re fighting so hard to conceal the Epstein files.

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            • Randahl FinkR Randahl Fink

              I don't know if Americans realize what happened between the US and Denmark.

              No matter whom I listen to, the feeling is the same: Our bilateral relationship is dead.

              I grew up in a country filled with gratitude towards The US, because of The Normandy Landings. The US was loved.

              The feeling now is anger. Our Kingdom has been threatened twice in 100 years: Hitler's occupation and Trump's attempted annexation of Greenland.

              It saddens me, but I sense this will not easily be forgotten.

              💔

              SammiS This user is from outside of this forum
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              Sammi
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              #71

              @randahl It's an abusive relationship and quite frankly it has never been "special" despite what people think. Like most countries America does what it thinks is best for itself.

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              • Randahl FinkR Randahl Fink

                I don't know if Americans realize what happened between the US and Denmark.

                No matter whom I listen to, the feeling is the same: Our bilateral relationship is dead.

                I grew up in a country filled with gratitude towards The US, because of The Normandy Landings. The US was loved.

                The feeling now is anger. Our Kingdom has been threatened twice in 100 years: Hitler's occupation and Trump's attempted annexation of Greenland.

                It saddens me, but I sense this will not easily be forgotten.

                💔

                Justin Lachance, CCEJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                Justin Lachance, CCE
                wrote on last edited by
                #72

                @randahl Canada has gone through a similar transformation. It started with talks of annexation and 51st state rhetoric a year ago.

                Now their politicians are actively calling for the province of Alberta to break off and join the US.

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                'We should let them come down into the U.S.': Bessent weighs in on Alberta separatism

                U.S. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent commented on the separatist movement in Alberta today — making him the highest-ranking member of the Trump administration to weigh in on the province’s politics. While appearing on the right-wing station Real America’s Voice, Bessent claimed Canada won’t let Alberta build a pipeline to the Pacific, adding, “I think we should let them come […]

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                • Mark Shane HaydenM Mark Shane Hayden

                  @randahl I think it is a lot for Americans to process, especially the significant majority of them who are not engaged in global affairs. Canadians very much relate to and sympathise with what Denmark is going through right now. The feelings of betrayal and anger and frustration and loss of trust are with respect to the USA are PROFOUND.

                  I don't think many Americans, regardless of their political leanings, really do understand gow we, and increasingly the rest of the world, perceive their country.

                  NOT THE PEOPLE...but their country. We mostly feel sorry for the people of the USA.

                  But they MUST know this: clobbering the GOP in the midterms will not make it better. Electing a new president will not make it better. Y'all elected a FASCIST regime that is rapidly descending into totalitarianism.

                  Carney is right. This world order is over, and it will take decades for relations with the USA to find a new normal and it will NEVER be the old normal again. Voting won't be enough to fix this it's only a start.

                  Alley StoughtonF This user is from outside of this forum
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                  Alley Stoughton
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #73

                  @msh Something like 35% of the American public have drunk the MAGA Kool-Aid, and that's enough to put the future of the country in question. Their news source is hard-right propaganda. And yes, so much damage has been done internationally that there is no going back. Domestically, I'm not sure there will be a way of going back, either, given the damage to journalism, science and universities, and to the rule of law.

                  I loved Carney's speech and argument.

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                  • Randahl FinkR Randahl Fink

                    I don't know if Americans realize what happened between the US and Denmark.

                    No matter whom I listen to, the feeling is the same: Our bilateral relationship is dead.

                    I grew up in a country filled with gratitude towards The US, because of The Normandy Landings. The US was loved.

                    The feeling now is anger. Our Kingdom has been threatened twice in 100 years: Hitler's occupation and Trump's attempted annexation of Greenland.

                    It saddens me, but I sense this will not easily be forgotten.

                    💔

                    FelixS This user is from outside of this forum
                    FelixS This user is from outside of this forum
                    Felix
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #74

                    @randahl Yup. USA used to be the de facto leader of “the Western World”, whatever that was supposed to mean and whatever you thought of it. It isn’t anymore. That’s how great MAGA made America again.

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                    • EQE EQ

                      @AGT But the Europe isn't much better. UK left the EU because of similar lies. The right wing extremists are growing everywhere. Not even Germany is excempt. We are all being influenced by russian troll factories as seen in several leaks and accidental doxing by twitter.

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                      Andy
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #75

                      @eq I agree, and I never voted for Brexit. Nigel Farage ranted about immigration using the same old far right rhetoric, and many people fell for it. AI’s more of a threat to jobs and everyday life in the UK than immigration.
                      I can’t believe the direction the world’s heading in. Two world wars on, and the twisted ideologies are clearly coming back. Not that they ever fully went away.

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                      • Mark Shane HaydenM Mark Shane Hayden

                        @jgivoni respectfully, you must accept that the rot within the US runs far deeper than "Trump and his fascist pack" from our point of view.

                        Understand that we don't hate the American PEOPLE (well, not the two thirds of them that are not fascists at least), we feel sorry for them...watching their country as they have known it disintegrate is unimaginable! But also understand this: the US has suffered a broad, systemic sociopolitical breakdown, and "voting the bums out" will not be the end of the problems, it is merely the first step in a healing process that could take many years, decades even, to fully sort out.

                        @randahl

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                        Preston MacDougall
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                        #76

                        @msh @jgivoni @randahl Might I suggest the root problem in the #UnitedStates is its failing K-12 #education system? There’s a good reason #DonaldTheDeplorable #Trump thanked the “poorly educated” after winning his first #USpol contest in the run-up to the #2016election. https://youtu.be/O9F6EAMPky4

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                        • Randahl FinkR Randahl Fink

                          I don't know if Americans realize what happened between the US and Denmark.

                          No matter whom I listen to, the feeling is the same: Our bilateral relationship is dead.

                          I grew up in a country filled with gratitude towards The US, because of The Normandy Landings. The US was loved.

                          The feeling now is anger. Our Kingdom has been threatened twice in 100 years: Hitler's occupation and Trump's attempted annexation of Greenland.

                          It saddens me, but I sense this will not easily be forgotten.

                          💔

                          Laurie KayL This user is from outside of this forum
                          Laurie KayL This user is from outside of this forum
                          Laurie Kay
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #77

                          @randahl as a Canadian, I feel the same. I grew up feeling that the US was a friendly next door neighbour-another branch of the same family. Now I feel such intense animosity, I’m not sure I could ever cross that border again.

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                          • Randahl FinkR Randahl Fink

                            I don't know if Americans realize what happened between the US and Denmark.

                            No matter whom I listen to, the feeling is the same: Our bilateral relationship is dead.

                            I grew up in a country filled with gratitude towards The US, because of The Normandy Landings. The US was loved.

                            The feeling now is anger. Our Kingdom has been threatened twice in 100 years: Hitler's occupation and Trump's attempted annexation of Greenland.

                            It saddens me, but I sense this will not easily be forgotten.

                            💔

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                            Andrew Richens
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                            #78

                            @randahl Sadly, I agree with you. I'm a former British soldier. With his threats to Greenland and now his belittling of allied contributions to the conflict in Afghanistan (at the USA's request), I am absolutely disgusted and, to be honest, worried for the future. My only form of protest at the moment is to avoid all USA products - this is why I have left Facebook and joined Mastodon yesterday. Europe must be stronger.

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                            • Randahl FinkR Randahl Fink

                              I don't know if Americans realize what happened between the US and Denmark.

                              No matter whom I listen to, the feeling is the same: Our bilateral relationship is dead.

                              I grew up in a country filled with gratitude towards The US, because of The Normandy Landings. The US was loved.

                              The feeling now is anger. Our Kingdom has been threatened twice in 100 years: Hitler's occupation and Trump's attempted annexation of Greenland.

                              It saddens me, but I sense this will not easily be forgotten.

                              💔

                              Petra van CronenburgN This user is from outside of this forum
                              Petra van CronenburgN This user is from outside of this forum
                              Petra van Cronenburg
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #79

                              @randahl The same here in France, people are immensely in rage. But fortunately, those with a brain can differ between a fascist state and the good people who try to resist. And meanwhile even some Republicans don't like thes politics. I think, a strong Europe showing red lines will help the resisting people. We shouldn't forget them.

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                              • Randahl FinkR Randahl Fink

                                I don't know if Americans realize what happened between the US and Denmark.

                                No matter whom I listen to, the feeling is the same: Our bilateral relationship is dead.

                                I grew up in a country filled with gratitude towards The US, because of The Normandy Landings. The US was loved.

                                The feeling now is anger. Our Kingdom has been threatened twice in 100 years: Hitler's occupation and Trump's attempted annexation of Greenland.

                                It saddens me, but I sense this will not easily be forgotten.

                                💔

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                                Galad
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                                #80

                                @randahl For a lack of a better term, it is going to take a period of de-nazification to even begin mending relationships. To be clear, the American political and oligarch classes are riddled with collaborators and outright Nazis, so things will continue to escalate until they face consequences. My personal estimation is that this period will last 20-40 years especially considering that the opposition party (Democrats) are beholden to the same oligarchs who helped cause this.

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                                • Randahl FinkR Randahl Fink

                                  I don't know if Americans realize what happened between the US and Denmark.

                                  No matter whom I listen to, the feeling is the same: Our bilateral relationship is dead.

                                  I grew up in a country filled with gratitude towards The US, because of The Normandy Landings. The US was loved.

                                  The feeling now is anger. Our Kingdom has been threatened twice in 100 years: Hitler's occupation and Trump's attempted annexation of Greenland.

                                  It saddens me, but I sense this will not easily be forgotten.

                                  💔

                                  David 🇬🇱🇪🇺🇺🇦D This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  David 🇬🇱🇪🇺🇺🇦
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #81

                                  @randahl yeah, same feelings here. At least the more evolved Dutch…
                                  It’s about time (long overdue actually) that our politicians got their heads out of their bottoms and do the right things.

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                                  • Randahl FinkR Randahl Fink

                                    I don't know if Americans realize what happened between the US and Denmark.

                                    No matter whom I listen to, the feeling is the same: Our bilateral relationship is dead.

                                    I grew up in a country filled with gratitude towards The US, because of The Normandy Landings. The US was loved.

                                    The feeling now is anger. Our Kingdom has been threatened twice in 100 years: Hitler's occupation and Trump's attempted annexation of Greenland.

                                    It saddens me, but I sense this will not easily be forgotten.

                                    💔

                                    KristenK This user is from outside of this forum
                                    KristenK This user is from outside of this forum
                                    Kristen
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #82

                                    @randahl Nor should it be. Many idiots think we need to find a way to 'work with' Nazis who want to destroy everything. We stupidly keep giving assholes like the slime comprising America's GOP a seat at the table when they've made clear they'll devour everything and kill others to do so.

                                    No one should forgive the United States. NO ONE.

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                                    • GaladG Galad

                                      @randahl For a lack of a better term, it is going to take a period of de-nazification to even begin mending relationships. To be clear, the American political and oligarch classes are riddled with collaborators and outright Nazis, so things will continue to escalate until they face consequences. My personal estimation is that this period will last 20-40 years especially considering that the opposition party (Democrats) are beholden to the same oligarchs who helped cause this.

                                      KristenK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      Kristen
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #83

                                      @galad @randahl This 🎯

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                                      • Petra van CronenburgN Petra van Cronenburg

                                        @randahl The same here in France, people are immensely in rage. But fortunately, those with a brain can differ between a fascist state and the good people who try to resist. And meanwhile even some Republicans don't like thes politics. I think, a strong Europe showing red lines will help the resisting people. We shouldn't forget them.

                                        KristenK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        Kristen
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #84

                                        @NatureMC @randahl thank you, there are millions of us here who hate his guts.

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                                        • R Ross McConnell

                                          @randahl The venal kleptocracy behind Trump is today exerting influence around the world, Trump is but a figurehead. Until people realise that this is about regular people versus the top 0.1% and their enablers, things will not get better. In the U.K. and US, both mainstream parties have been captured by corporate and / or Zionist paymasters, which disenfranchises voters. It’s unsurprising 1/3 of people (much more actually) don’t vote.

                                          KristenK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          Kristen
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #85

                                          @RossMcC @randahl Spot-on, unfortunately.

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