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We are excited to share that we are beginning work on a new onboarding experiment for #Mastodon: Default Server Recommendations.

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  • Octavia Con Amore :pink_moon_and_stars: Succubard's LibraryO Octavia Con Amore :pink_moon_and_stars: Succubard's Library

    @Mastodon do you mean entirely open sign-ups (i.e. prone to spam accounts) or accepting sign-ups that get manually approved by a human?

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    @OctaviaConAmore @Mastodon

    For this experiment, that is correct. We are looking to partner with servers that have open sign-ups. But we've heard the feedback that spam is going to be a big issue for many servers to participate, so our team is going to discuss what we can do about that next week.

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    • KackfreshP Kackfresh

      @aral

      I feel like by asking this question you're — inadvertently — legitimizing zionism by implying that the conflation of antisemitism with antizionism is a credible definition of that word.

      Personally, I assume that antisemitism means antisemitism unless I have reason to believe otherwise.

      Aral BalkanA This user is from outside of this forum
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      @potatoes_fall It’s not a credible definition of the word but it is a *legally accepted* one in certain jurisdictions and it is essential that we know what is meant – in this specific context – by a term that is so widely and so willfully misunderstood so we understand what exactly the effects of this initiative will be and whether we should be in support of it or in opposition to it.

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      • SunnyS Sunny

        @Mastodon ideally combined with personal interests, right? (as long as there are enough servers to choose from) 😎🌈👩‍💻🌳

        hannah aubryH This user is from outside of this forum
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        @sunnythesheep @Mastodon for this experiment we are looking to partner with general-purpose servers. But this is just one experiment, not the only experiment! We’ll be looking at how we can help with special-interest server discovery soon.

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        • MastodonM Mastodon

          The Default Server Recommendations experiment is a first step in reimagining how Mastodon onboarding & server discovery work.

          Our team’s intent is to work with the community to build new onboarding pathways that support the entire network.

          We can’t wait to get started 💜

          6/6

          SamS This user is from outside of this forum
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          #39

          @Mastodon It's amazing seeing these sorts of things play out across the Fediverse. Making sure we make a better internet that is centered around Privacy and staying decentralized for all.

          Keep up the good work and can't wait to see where we all are in several years to come.

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          • TariqR Tariq

            @Mastodon

            you might also wish to ask the user about legal jurisdiction

            the German and similar jurisdictions can be unreasonably and surprisingly problematic

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            @rzeta0 @Mastodon What do you mean? The idea would be to give people a server that is in the area they are living. If you live in Germany you have apply to it's legal jurisdiction.

            But I don't really see how German law is particular more / less problematic when choosing a mastodon server.

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            • MastodonM Mastodon

              We are excited to share that we are beginning work on a new onboarding experiment for #Mastodon: Default Server Recommendations.

              Our intent for this experiment is to recommend the closest server geographically that is in the correct language during the sign-up flow. We will be running this experiment on our iOS and Android apps only to start.

              1/6

              FinchHaven sfbaF This user is from outside of this forum
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              @Mastodon

              "We will be running this experiment on our iOS and Android apps only to start."

              And here is the core symptom of the core problem itself:

              You're pointing the question and its solution right back at the Deathstar Mothership itself: @Mastodon dot Social

              Sort of a recursive, self-fulfilling loop, no?

              But not the least bit surprising

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              • Mastodon Belgium AdminA Mastodon Belgium Admin

                @Mastodon
                Interesting experiment!
                Before I fill in the form:
                Is there anything in particular that should be done or followed-up server/admin side for this?

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                @admin @Mastodon hey! The only thing to do for now is make sure you’re meeting these eligibility requirements:

                - Run default Mastodon (for now)
                - Agree to the Server Covenant
                - Have existed for 1+ year
                - Have shut-down & disaster plans

                Besides that, stay tuned!

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                • Aral BalkanA Aral Balkan

                  @potatoes_fall It’s not a credible definition of the word but it is a *legally accepted* one in certain jurisdictions and it is essential that we know what is meant – in this specific context – by a term that is so widely and so willfully misunderstood so we understand what exactly the effects of this initiative will be and whether we should be in support of it or in opposition to it.

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                  @aral @potatoes_fall

                  Yes 100%, this issue has been troublesome in reality, not just theoretically

                  I wonder if users should be prompted so they are placed in a suitable jurisdiction?

                  And majority of users would be unaware of this issue, so a positive outcome is them becoming aware.

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                  • Aral BalkanA Aral Balkan

                    @potatoes_fall It’s not a credible definition of the word but it is a *legally accepted* one in certain jurisdictions and it is essential that we know what is meant – in this specific context – by a term that is so widely and so willfully misunderstood so we understand what exactly the effects of this initiative will be and whether we should be in support of it or in opposition to it.

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                    @potatoes_fall Also see this follow-up: https://mastodon.ar.al/@aral/115989944734933868

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                    • MastodonM Mastodon

                      Starting now, we’re recruiting general purpose servers with open sign-ups. To be eligible, servers must:

                      - Run default Mastodon (for now)
                      - Agree to the Server Covenant
                      - Have existed for 1+ year
                      - Have shut-down & disaster plans

                      4/6

                      SunnyS This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @mainz_sozial_digital @system @allmaechd @nrw.social @bawue.social @berlin.social @norden.social @sueden.social @bonndigital

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                      • MastodonM Mastodon

                        If you’re interested in participating in this experiment, please let us know by filling out this form.

                        (sorry it’s in Google docs)

                        https://forms.gle/7uRui5VnMPfEYAgq8

                        5/6

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                        @Mastodon we could deal with the form being on Google, but it requires a Google account to fill it, which our instance admin doesn't have. I'm pretty sure this is configurable

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                        • Aral BalkanA Aral Balkan

                          @Mastodon This is a link to the server covenant:

                          Link Preview Image
                          Mastodon Server Covenant for joinmastodon.org

                          favicon

                          (joinmastodon.org)

                          One important question – and one we’ve discussed together – is which definition of antisemitism are you going with? I’d appreciate it if you could state the decision you’ve reached on this publicly. Crucially, is it one that conflates opposition to Zionism, Israel, and the ongoing genocide of the Palestinian people with being bigoted against Jewish people or not? This is key in knowing whether only Zionist, pro-Israel, pro-genocide Mastodon servers will be featured in recommendations or not.

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                          @aral 🙄🙄🙄

                          @Mastodon

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                          • KackfreshP Kackfresh

                            @Mastodon

                            @mainz_sozial_digital könnte interessant sein?

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                            @potatoes_fall @Mastodon

                            Danke! Haben Interesse bekundet.

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                            • MastodonM Mastodon

                              Starting now, we’re recruiting general purpose servers with open sign-ups. To be eligible, servers must:

                              - Run default Mastodon (for now)
                              - Agree to the Server Covenant
                              - Have existed for 1+ year
                              - Have shut-down & disaster plans

                              4/6

                              Riquiñez :fedora:A This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @Mastodon Igual esto le interesa a @rober para añadir a Masto punto es

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                              • MastodonM Mastodon

                                We are excited to share that we are beginning work on a new onboarding experiment for #Mastodon: Default Server Recommendations.

                                Our intent for this experiment is to recommend the closest server geographically that is in the correct language during the sign-up flow. We will be running this experiment on our iOS and Android apps only to start.

                                1/6

                                ren (is fairy eyelashes) 🎶R This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @Mastodon Awesome! The other issue is “filling up the feed”, right? Bluesky’s feeds to follow are nice, but we got hashtags here. Maybe when people sign up, you also give them a nice (and attractively presented) list of hashtags to follow???

                                LEAN IN on that old school spirit and people feeds will fill up right away!!!

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                                • stux :stux_santa:S stux :stux_santa:

                                  @Mastodon send!

                                  Ben Zucker 🍰B This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @stux I bet they were just waiting for you haha

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                                  • MastodonM Mastodon

                                    The Default Server Recommendations experiment is a first step in reimagining how Mastodon onboarding & server discovery work.

                                    Our team’s intent is to work with the community to build new onboarding pathways that support the entire network.

                                    We can’t wait to get started 💜

                                    6/6

                                    Riquiñez :fedora:A This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @Mastodon It sounds really good, especially to avoid overcrowd Mastodon official servers and strengthen the Fediverse philosophy!

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                                    • Sebastian Z :clippy:S Sebastian Z :clippy:

                                      @Mastodon
                                      Cool that you crowdsource.
                                      But no need to use g forms and then apologize for it.
                                      I like to use https://framaforms.org/

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                                      @sebzuen @Mastodon

                                      Yeah! Merci! Das hab ich schon lange gesucht.

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                                      • simzieS simzie

                                        @sebzuen @Mastodon

                                        Yeah! Merci! Das hab ich schon lange gesucht.

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                                        @simzie Cool! Ich benutze bisher die main instance komplett auf französisch, was eine nette challenge ist – vlt. ist framaforms selfhostable?!
                                        Aber ich sehe du sprichst FR, dann sollte das für dich ja kein problem sein ◡̈

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                                        • MastodonM Mastodon

                                          The Default Server Recommendations experiment is a first step in reimagining how Mastodon onboarding & server discovery work.

                                          Our team’s intent is to work with the community to build new onboarding pathways that support the entire network.

                                          We can’t wait to get started 💜

                                          6/6

                                          JörgiJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @Mastodon
                                          How about also interest based?
                                          There are some for special interests
                                          Like punkstodon.de for punk music, metalhead.club for metal heads, infosec.exchange for tech security interested people and so on.
                                          So just the region is maybe too less?
                                          At least it's something to be considered after the first iteration

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