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Welp, it's all kicking off this week in AI!

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  • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

    Welp, it's all kicking off this week in AI!

    Nvidia is going all squishy over a planned $100Bn investment in OpenAI:

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    Nvidia shares are down after a report that its OpenAI investment stalled. Here's what's happening

    Nvidia's Jensen Huang criticized OpenAI's business strategy as the chip giant plans to invest up to $100 billion into the AI startup, per reports.

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    CNBC (www.cnbc.com)

    Microsoft Azure income shrank 2% despite huge investment by MSFT and knocked a $375Bn hole in their finances: MSFT shares down 10% in 3 days:

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    With Shares Down 10% After Its Earnings Call, Is Microsoft a Buy? | The Motley Fool

    Last week's sell-off made shares cheaper than they've been in years.

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    … Is the AI bubble over?

    lemgandiL This user is from outside of this forum
    lemgandiL This user is from outside of this forum
    lemgandi
    wrote last edited by
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    @cstross

    The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent.

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    • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

      Welp, it's all kicking off this week in AI!

      Nvidia is going all squishy over a planned $100Bn investment in OpenAI:

      Link Preview Image
      Nvidia shares are down after a report that its OpenAI investment stalled. Here's what's happening

      Nvidia's Jensen Huang criticized OpenAI's business strategy as the chip giant plans to invest up to $100 billion into the AI startup, per reports.

      favicon

      CNBC (www.cnbc.com)

      Microsoft Azure income shrank 2% despite huge investment by MSFT and knocked a $375Bn hole in their finances: MSFT shares down 10% in 3 days:

      Link Preview Image
      With Shares Down 10% After Its Earnings Call, Is Microsoft a Buy? | The Motley Fool

      Last week's sell-off made shares cheaper than they've been in years.

      favicon

      The Motley Fool (www.fool.com)

      … Is the AI bubble over?

      Madeleine MorrisR This user is from outside of this forum
      Madeleine MorrisR This user is from outside of this forum
      Madeleine Morris
      wrote last edited by
      #7

      @cstross from your lips to god’s ear

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      • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

        Welp, it's all kicking off this week in AI!

        Nvidia is going all squishy over a planned $100Bn investment in OpenAI:

        Link Preview Image
        Nvidia shares are down after a report that its OpenAI investment stalled. Here's what's happening

        Nvidia's Jensen Huang criticized OpenAI's business strategy as the chip giant plans to invest up to $100 billion into the AI startup, per reports.

        favicon

        CNBC (www.cnbc.com)

        Microsoft Azure income shrank 2% despite huge investment by MSFT and knocked a $375Bn hole in their finances: MSFT shares down 10% in 3 days:

        Link Preview Image
        With Shares Down 10% After Its Earnings Call, Is Microsoft a Buy? | The Motley Fool

        Last week's sell-off made shares cheaper than they've been in years.

        favicon

        The Motley Fool (www.fool.com)

        … Is the AI bubble over?

        Jack William BellJ This user is from outside of this forum
        Jack William BellJ This user is from outside of this forum
        Jack William Bell
        wrote last edited by
        #8

        @cstross

        If it is happening this way, as a slow pullout of the smart money? I think the economic shock may be somewhat more muted than I'd previously feared.

        Given the geopolitical and geoeconomic stresses right now a combination of run on the stock market and run on the dollar could bring about a 1929 level crash. And I think the current prices of precious metals shows there are a number of big players who fear exactly that might happen.

        But should the bubble deflate more slowly? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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        • adamriceA adamrice

          @cstross Nvidia investing in OpenAI sounds like blowing smoke up your own ass in order to levitate.

          Charlie StrossC This user is from outside of this forum
          Charlie StrossC This user is from outside of this forum
          Charlie Stross
          wrote last edited by
          #9

          @adamrice Exactly! How come you spotted it while all the blue chip funds didn't notice?

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          • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

            Welp, it's all kicking off this week in AI!

            Nvidia is going all squishy over a planned $100Bn investment in OpenAI:

            Link Preview Image
            Nvidia shares are down after a report that its OpenAI investment stalled. Here's what's happening

            Nvidia's Jensen Huang criticized OpenAI's business strategy as the chip giant plans to invest up to $100 billion into the AI startup, per reports.

            favicon

            CNBC (www.cnbc.com)

            Microsoft Azure income shrank 2% despite huge investment by MSFT and knocked a $375Bn hole in their finances: MSFT shares down 10% in 3 days:

            Link Preview Image
            With Shares Down 10% After Its Earnings Call, Is Microsoft a Buy? | The Motley Fool

            Last week's sell-off made shares cheaper than they've been in years.

            favicon

            The Motley Fool (www.fool.com)

            … Is the AI bubble over?

            UilebheistU This user is from outside of this forum
            UilebheistU This user is from outside of this forum
            Uilebheist
            wrote last edited by
            #10

            @cstross I suspect not: there's no limit to human stupidity.

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            • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

              Welp, it's all kicking off this week in AI!

              Nvidia is going all squishy over a planned $100Bn investment in OpenAI:

              Link Preview Image
              Nvidia shares are down after a report that its OpenAI investment stalled. Here's what's happening

              Nvidia's Jensen Huang criticized OpenAI's business strategy as the chip giant plans to invest up to $100 billion into the AI startup, per reports.

              favicon

              CNBC (www.cnbc.com)

              Microsoft Azure income shrank 2% despite huge investment by MSFT and knocked a $375Bn hole in their finances: MSFT shares down 10% in 3 days:

              Link Preview Image
              With Shares Down 10% After Its Earnings Call, Is Microsoft a Buy? | The Motley Fool

              Last week's sell-off made shares cheaper than they've been in years.

              favicon

              The Motley Fool (www.fool.com)

              … Is the AI bubble over?

              Sean FenianZ This user is from outside of this forum
              Sean FenianZ This user is from outside of this forum
              Sean Fenian
              wrote last edited by
              #11

              @cstross@wandering.shop Meanwhile Mozilla promised a one-step 'AI kill switch' in Firefox 148, and Vivaldi's CEO said "We've learned that frankly, people hate AI."

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              • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                Welp, it's all kicking off this week in AI!

                Nvidia is going all squishy over a planned $100Bn investment in OpenAI:

                Link Preview Image
                Nvidia shares are down after a report that its OpenAI investment stalled. Here's what's happening

                Nvidia's Jensen Huang criticized OpenAI's business strategy as the chip giant plans to invest up to $100 billion into the AI startup, per reports.

                favicon

                CNBC (www.cnbc.com)

                Microsoft Azure income shrank 2% despite huge investment by MSFT and knocked a $375Bn hole in their finances: MSFT shares down 10% in 3 days:

                Link Preview Image
                With Shares Down 10% After Its Earnings Call, Is Microsoft a Buy? | The Motley Fool

                Last week's sell-off made shares cheaper than they've been in years.

                favicon

                The Motley Fool (www.fool.com)

                … Is the AI bubble over?

                Steve DowneyS This user is from outside of this forum
                Steve DowneyS This user is from outside of this forum
                Steve Downey
                wrote last edited by
                #12

                @cstross But simultaneously the debt market is selling off bonds from SaaS companies on the panic that AI will replace them.

                Two crashes on opposite sides of the same bet.

                yay

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                • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                  @adamrice Exactly! How come you spotted it while all the blue chip funds didn't notice?

                  Bruno NicolettiB This user is from outside of this forum
                  Bruno NicolettiB This user is from outside of this forum
                  Bruno Nicoletti
                  wrote last edited by
                  #13

                  @cstross @adamrice Fear of missing out on the upswing. Most investors are not driven by any rational analysis but by two instincts, greed and fear. Looks like we are in the middle of the flip from one mode to the other.

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                  • Steve DowneyS Steve Downey

                    @cstross But simultaneously the debt market is selling off bonds from SaaS companies on the panic that AI will replace them.

                    Two crashes on opposite sides of the same bet.

                    yay

                    Dan SugalskiW This user is from outside of this forum
                    Dan SugalskiW This user is from outside of this forum
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                    wrote last edited by
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                    @Sdowney @cstross Every time anyone talks about the invisible hand of the market, or the wisdom of the markets, I just... point them at what the actual market does and laugh.

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                    • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                      Welp, it's all kicking off this week in AI!

                      Nvidia is going all squishy over a planned $100Bn investment in OpenAI:

                      Link Preview Image
                      Nvidia shares are down after a report that its OpenAI investment stalled. Here's what's happening

                      Nvidia's Jensen Huang criticized OpenAI's business strategy as the chip giant plans to invest up to $100 billion into the AI startup, per reports.

                      favicon

                      CNBC (www.cnbc.com)

                      Microsoft Azure income shrank 2% despite huge investment by MSFT and knocked a $375Bn hole in their finances: MSFT shares down 10% in 3 days:

                      Link Preview Image
                      With Shares Down 10% After Its Earnings Call, Is Microsoft a Buy? | The Motley Fool

                      Last week's sell-off made shares cheaper than they've been in years.

                      favicon

                      The Motley Fool (www.fool.com)

                      … Is the AI bubble over?

                      Jim JonesG This user is from outside of this forum
                      Jim JonesG This user is from outside of this forum
                      Jim Jones
                      wrote last edited by
                      #15

                      @cstross Oof. That Microsoft dip is not pretty.

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                      • Steve DowneyS Steve Downey

                        @cstross But simultaneously the debt market is selling off bonds from SaaS companies on the panic that AI will replace them.

                        Two crashes on opposite sides of the same bet.

                        yay

                        John GriffithsJ This user is from outside of this forum
                        John GriffithsJ This user is from outside of this forum
                        John Griffiths
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                        #16

                        @Sdowney @cstross both sides can be insanely overvalued at the same time!

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                        • Jim JonesG Jim Jones

                          @cstross Oof. That Microsoft dip is not pretty.

                          Charlie StrossC This user is from outside of this forum
                          Charlie StrossC This user is from outside of this forum
                          Charlie Stross
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                          @GreatBigTable Palantir are down a similar amount!

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                          • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                            @GreatBigTable Palantir are down a similar amount!

                            Jim JonesG This user is from outside of this forum
                            Jim JonesG This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @cstross You hate to see it. Really.

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                            • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                              Welp, it's all kicking off this week in AI!

                              Nvidia is going all squishy over a planned $100Bn investment in OpenAI:

                              Link Preview Image
                              Nvidia shares are down after a report that its OpenAI investment stalled. Here's what's happening

                              Nvidia's Jensen Huang criticized OpenAI's business strategy as the chip giant plans to invest up to $100 billion into the AI startup, per reports.

                              favicon

                              CNBC (www.cnbc.com)

                              Microsoft Azure income shrank 2% despite huge investment by MSFT and knocked a $375Bn hole in their finances: MSFT shares down 10% in 3 days:

                              Link Preview Image
                              With Shares Down 10% After Its Earnings Call, Is Microsoft a Buy? | The Motley Fool

                              Last week's sell-off made shares cheaper than they've been in years.

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                              The Motley Fool (www.fool.com)

                              … Is the AI bubble over?

                              cubeosC This user is from outside of this forum
                              cubeosC This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @cstross Microsoft Azure Income grew. by 39% year over year. It just grew 2% less than some people expected.

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                              • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                Welp, it's all kicking off this week in AI!

                                Nvidia is going all squishy over a planned $100Bn investment in OpenAI:

                                Link Preview Image
                                Nvidia shares are down after a report that its OpenAI investment stalled. Here's what's happening

                                Nvidia's Jensen Huang criticized OpenAI's business strategy as the chip giant plans to invest up to $100 billion into the AI startup, per reports.

                                favicon

                                CNBC (www.cnbc.com)

                                Microsoft Azure income shrank 2% despite huge investment by MSFT and knocked a $375Bn hole in their finances: MSFT shares down 10% in 3 days:

                                Link Preview Image
                                With Shares Down 10% After Its Earnings Call, Is Microsoft a Buy? | The Motley Fool

                                Last week's sell-off made shares cheaper than they've been in years.

                                favicon

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                                … Is the AI bubble over?

                                Dianne HackbornH This user is from outside of this forum
                                Dianne HackbornH This user is from outside of this forum
                                Dianne Hackborn
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                                @cstross

                                "The longtime chief also criticized a lack of discipline in OpenAI’s business strategy"

                                Meaning they wouldn't be spending enough of that money on Nvidia's GPUs?

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                                • John GriffithsJ John Griffiths

                                  @Sdowney @cstross both sides can be insanely overvalued at the same time!

                                  cliffordheathC This user is from outside of this forum
                                  cliffordheathC This user is from outside of this forum
                                  cliffordheath
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                                  @johnboy @Sdowney @cstross It's almost like both sides provide things that won't be needed when everyone is suddenly reduced to subsistence farming

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                                  • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                    Welp, it's all kicking off this week in AI!

                                    Nvidia is going all squishy over a planned $100Bn investment in OpenAI:

                                    Link Preview Image
                                    Nvidia shares are down after a report that its OpenAI investment stalled. Here's what's happening

                                    Nvidia's Jensen Huang criticized OpenAI's business strategy as the chip giant plans to invest up to $100 billion into the AI startup, per reports.

                                    favicon

                                    CNBC (www.cnbc.com)

                                    Microsoft Azure income shrank 2% despite huge investment by MSFT and knocked a $375Bn hole in their finances: MSFT shares down 10% in 3 days:

                                    Link Preview Image
                                    With Shares Down 10% After Its Earnings Call, Is Microsoft a Buy? | The Motley Fool

                                    Last week's sell-off made shares cheaper than they've been in years.

                                    favicon

                                    The Motley Fool (www.fool.com)

                                    … Is the AI bubble over?

                                    S. LottS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    S. Lott
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #22

                                    @cstross What’s A16Z going to throw money at next? Have they started burning piles of money in worship of some other Big New Thing™? Until the A16Z rocket fuel dries up, I think we’re stuck watching this mess.

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                                    • cliffordheathC cliffordheath

                                      @johnboy @Sdowney @cstross It's almost like both sides provide things that won't be needed when everyone is suddenly reduced to subsistence farming

                                      John GriffithsJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @cliffordheath @Sdowney @cstross and 7 billion people die in a year 😞

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                                      • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                        Welp, it's all kicking off this week in AI!

                                        Nvidia is going all squishy over a planned $100Bn investment in OpenAI:

                                        Link Preview Image
                                        Nvidia shares are down after a report that its OpenAI investment stalled. Here's what's happening

                                        Nvidia's Jensen Huang criticized OpenAI's business strategy as the chip giant plans to invest up to $100 billion into the AI startup, per reports.

                                        favicon

                                        CNBC (www.cnbc.com)

                                        Microsoft Azure income shrank 2% despite huge investment by MSFT and knocked a $375Bn hole in their finances: MSFT shares down 10% in 3 days:

                                        Link Preview Image
                                        With Shares Down 10% After Its Earnings Call, Is Microsoft a Buy? | The Motley Fool

                                        Last week's sell-off made shares cheaper than they've been in years.

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                                        … Is the AI bubble over?

                                        JamesJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                        JamesJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                        James
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                                        #24

                                        @cstross

                                        I asked ChatGPT:
                                        Bottom line:
                                        Yes, in the last 48 hours there are clear signs of stress across AI-linked stocks, rising skepticism, and valuation readjustment — which feels bubble-ish. But no, there’s not yet decisive evidence that the entire AI boom is bursting. It’s more like a market correction and repricing, with risk shifting from hype toward real earnings and competition.

                                        If you want, I can break this down by specific companies, sectors (chips vs. software vs. services), or what this might mean for investing or the broader economy.

                                        Bubble-ish….like ChatGPT is a 45 yo guy from Brooklyn.

                                        And then it requested access to my microphone.

                                        Maybe the day will come when it doesn’t ask.

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                                        • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                          Welp, it's all kicking off this week in AI!

                                          Nvidia is going all squishy over a planned $100Bn investment in OpenAI:

                                          Link Preview Image
                                          Nvidia shares are down after a report that its OpenAI investment stalled. Here's what's happening

                                          Nvidia's Jensen Huang criticized OpenAI's business strategy as the chip giant plans to invest up to $100 billion into the AI startup, per reports.

                                          favicon

                                          CNBC (www.cnbc.com)

                                          Microsoft Azure income shrank 2% despite huge investment by MSFT and knocked a $375Bn hole in their finances: MSFT shares down 10% in 3 days:

                                          Link Preview Image
                                          With Shares Down 10% After Its Earnings Call, Is Microsoft a Buy? | The Motley Fool

                                          Last week's sell-off made shares cheaper than they've been in years.

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                                          … Is the AI bubble over?

                                          E This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          the esoteric programmer
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                                          @cstross nah, it's probably not over, at least not yet

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