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Welp, it's all kicking off this week in AI!

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  • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

    Welp, it's all kicking off this week in AI!

    Nvidia is going all squishy over a planned $100Bn investment in OpenAI:

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    Nvidia shares are down after a report that its OpenAI investment stalled. Here's what's happening

    Nvidia's Jensen Huang criticized OpenAI's business strategy as the chip giant plans to invest up to $100 billion into the AI startup, per reports.

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    CNBC (www.cnbc.com)

    Microsoft Azure income shrank 2% despite huge investment by MSFT and knocked a $375Bn hole in their finances: MSFT shares down 10% in 3 days:

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    With Shares Down 10% After Its Earnings Call, Is Microsoft a Buy? | The Motley Fool

    Last week's sell-off made shares cheaper than they've been in years.

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    … Is the AI bubble over?

    Jack William BellJ This user is from outside of this forum
    Jack William BellJ This user is from outside of this forum
    Jack William Bell
    wrote last edited by
    #8

    @cstross

    If it is happening this way, as a slow pullout of the smart money? I think the economic shock may be somewhat more muted than I'd previously feared.

    Given the geopolitical and geoeconomic stresses right now a combination of run on the stock market and run on the dollar could bring about a 1929 level crash. And I think the current prices of precious metals shows there are a number of big players who fear exactly that might happen.

    But should the bubble deflate more slowly? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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    • adamriceA adamrice

      @cstross Nvidia investing in OpenAI sounds like blowing smoke up your own ass in order to levitate.

      Charlie StrossC This user is from outside of this forum
      Charlie StrossC This user is from outside of this forum
      Charlie Stross
      wrote last edited by
      #9

      @adamrice Exactly! How come you spotted it while all the blue chip funds didn't notice?

      Bruno NicolettiB LichoL 2 Replies Last reply
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      • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

        Welp, it's all kicking off this week in AI!

        Nvidia is going all squishy over a planned $100Bn investment in OpenAI:

        Link Preview Image
        Nvidia shares are down after a report that its OpenAI investment stalled. Here's what's happening

        Nvidia's Jensen Huang criticized OpenAI's business strategy as the chip giant plans to invest up to $100 billion into the AI startup, per reports.

        favicon

        CNBC (www.cnbc.com)

        Microsoft Azure income shrank 2% despite huge investment by MSFT and knocked a $375Bn hole in their finances: MSFT shares down 10% in 3 days:

        Link Preview Image
        With Shares Down 10% After Its Earnings Call, Is Microsoft a Buy? | The Motley Fool

        Last week's sell-off made shares cheaper than they've been in years.

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        The Motley Fool (www.fool.com)

        … Is the AI bubble over?

        UilebheistU This user is from outside of this forum
        UilebheistU This user is from outside of this forum
        Uilebheist
        wrote last edited by
        #10

        @cstross I suspect not: there's no limit to human stupidity.

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        • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

          Welp, it's all kicking off this week in AI!

          Nvidia is going all squishy over a planned $100Bn investment in OpenAI:

          Link Preview Image
          Nvidia shares are down after a report that its OpenAI investment stalled. Here's what's happening

          Nvidia's Jensen Huang criticized OpenAI's business strategy as the chip giant plans to invest up to $100 billion into the AI startup, per reports.

          favicon

          CNBC (www.cnbc.com)

          Microsoft Azure income shrank 2% despite huge investment by MSFT and knocked a $375Bn hole in their finances: MSFT shares down 10% in 3 days:

          Link Preview Image
          With Shares Down 10% After Its Earnings Call, Is Microsoft a Buy? | The Motley Fool

          Last week's sell-off made shares cheaper than they've been in years.

          favicon

          The Motley Fool (www.fool.com)

          … Is the AI bubble over?

          Sean FenianZ This user is from outside of this forum
          Sean FenianZ This user is from outside of this forum
          Sean Fenian
          wrote last edited by
          #11

          @cstross@wandering.shop Meanwhile Mozilla promised a one-step 'AI kill switch' in Firefox 148, and Vivaldi's CEO said "We've learned that frankly, people hate AI."

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          • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

            Welp, it's all kicking off this week in AI!

            Nvidia is going all squishy over a planned $100Bn investment in OpenAI:

            Link Preview Image
            Nvidia shares are down after a report that its OpenAI investment stalled. Here's what's happening

            Nvidia's Jensen Huang criticized OpenAI's business strategy as the chip giant plans to invest up to $100 billion into the AI startup, per reports.

            favicon

            CNBC (www.cnbc.com)

            Microsoft Azure income shrank 2% despite huge investment by MSFT and knocked a $375Bn hole in their finances: MSFT shares down 10% in 3 days:

            Link Preview Image
            With Shares Down 10% After Its Earnings Call, Is Microsoft a Buy? | The Motley Fool

            Last week's sell-off made shares cheaper than they've been in years.

            favicon

            The Motley Fool (www.fool.com)

            … Is the AI bubble over?

            Steve DowneyS This user is from outside of this forum
            Steve DowneyS This user is from outside of this forum
            Steve Downey
            wrote last edited by
            #12

            @cstross But simultaneously the debt market is selling off bonds from SaaS companies on the panic that AI will replace them.

            Two crashes on opposite sides of the same bet.

            yay

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            • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

              @adamrice Exactly! How come you spotted it while all the blue chip funds didn't notice?

              Bruno NicolettiB This user is from outside of this forum
              Bruno NicolettiB This user is from outside of this forum
              Bruno Nicoletti
              wrote last edited by
              #13

              @cstross @adamrice Fear of missing out on the upswing. Most investors are not driven by any rational analysis but by two instincts, greed and fear. Looks like we are in the middle of the flip from one mode to the other.

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              • Steve DowneyS Steve Downey

                @cstross But simultaneously the debt market is selling off bonds from SaaS companies on the panic that AI will replace them.

                Two crashes on opposite sides of the same bet.

                yay

                Dan SugalskiW This user is from outside of this forum
                Dan SugalskiW This user is from outside of this forum
                Dan Sugalski
                wrote last edited by
                #14

                @Sdowney @cstross Every time anyone talks about the invisible hand of the market, or the wisdom of the markets, I just... point them at what the actual market does and laugh.

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                • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                  Welp, it's all kicking off this week in AI!

                  Nvidia is going all squishy over a planned $100Bn investment in OpenAI:

                  Link Preview Image
                  Nvidia shares are down after a report that its OpenAI investment stalled. Here's what's happening

                  Nvidia's Jensen Huang criticized OpenAI's business strategy as the chip giant plans to invest up to $100 billion into the AI startup, per reports.

                  favicon

                  CNBC (www.cnbc.com)

                  Microsoft Azure income shrank 2% despite huge investment by MSFT and knocked a $375Bn hole in their finances: MSFT shares down 10% in 3 days:

                  Link Preview Image
                  With Shares Down 10% After Its Earnings Call, Is Microsoft a Buy? | The Motley Fool

                  Last week's sell-off made shares cheaper than they've been in years.

                  favicon

                  The Motley Fool (www.fool.com)

                  … Is the AI bubble over?

                  Jim JonesG This user is from outside of this forum
                  Jim JonesG This user is from outside of this forum
                  Jim Jones
                  wrote last edited by
                  #15

                  @cstross Oof. That Microsoft dip is not pretty.

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                  • Steve DowneyS Steve Downey

                    @cstross But simultaneously the debt market is selling off bonds from SaaS companies on the panic that AI will replace them.

                    Two crashes on opposite sides of the same bet.

                    yay

                    John GriffithsJ This user is from outside of this forum
                    John GriffithsJ This user is from outside of this forum
                    John Griffiths
                    wrote last edited by
                    #16

                    @Sdowney @cstross both sides can be insanely overvalued at the same time!

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                    • Jim JonesG Jim Jones

                      @cstross Oof. That Microsoft dip is not pretty.

                      Charlie StrossC This user is from outside of this forum
                      Charlie StrossC This user is from outside of this forum
                      Charlie Stross
                      wrote last edited by
                      #17

                      @GreatBigTable Palantir are down a similar amount!

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                      • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                        @GreatBigTable Palantir are down a similar amount!

                        Jim JonesG This user is from outside of this forum
                        Jim JonesG This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @cstross You hate to see it. Really.

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                        • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                          Welp, it's all kicking off this week in AI!

                          Nvidia is going all squishy over a planned $100Bn investment in OpenAI:

                          Link Preview Image
                          Nvidia shares are down after a report that its OpenAI investment stalled. Here's what's happening

                          Nvidia's Jensen Huang criticized OpenAI's business strategy as the chip giant plans to invest up to $100 billion into the AI startup, per reports.

                          favicon

                          CNBC (www.cnbc.com)

                          Microsoft Azure income shrank 2% despite huge investment by MSFT and knocked a $375Bn hole in their finances: MSFT shares down 10% in 3 days:

                          Link Preview Image
                          With Shares Down 10% After Its Earnings Call, Is Microsoft a Buy? | The Motley Fool

                          Last week's sell-off made shares cheaper than they've been in years.

                          favicon

                          The Motley Fool (www.fool.com)

                          … Is the AI bubble over?

                          cubeosC This user is from outside of this forum
                          cubeosC This user is from outside of this forum
                          cubeos
                          wrote last edited by
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                          @cstross Microsoft Azure Income grew. by 39% year over year. It just grew 2% less than some people expected.

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                          • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                            Welp, it's all kicking off this week in AI!

                            Nvidia is going all squishy over a planned $100Bn investment in OpenAI:

                            Link Preview Image
                            Nvidia shares are down after a report that its OpenAI investment stalled. Here's what's happening

                            Nvidia's Jensen Huang criticized OpenAI's business strategy as the chip giant plans to invest up to $100 billion into the AI startup, per reports.

                            favicon

                            CNBC (www.cnbc.com)

                            Microsoft Azure income shrank 2% despite huge investment by MSFT and knocked a $375Bn hole in their finances: MSFT shares down 10% in 3 days:

                            Link Preview Image
                            With Shares Down 10% After Its Earnings Call, Is Microsoft a Buy? | The Motley Fool

                            Last week's sell-off made shares cheaper than they've been in years.

                            favicon

                            The Motley Fool (www.fool.com)

                            … Is the AI bubble over?

                            Dianne HackbornH This user is from outside of this forum
                            Dianne HackbornH This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @cstross

                            "The longtime chief also criticized a lack of discipline in OpenAI’s business strategy"

                            Meaning they wouldn't be spending enough of that money on Nvidia's GPUs?

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                            • John GriffithsJ John Griffiths

                              @Sdowney @cstross both sides can be insanely overvalued at the same time!

                              cliffordheathC This user is from outside of this forum
                              cliffordheathC This user is from outside of this forum
                              cliffordheath
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                              @johnboy @Sdowney @cstross It's almost like both sides provide things that won't be needed when everyone is suddenly reduced to subsistence farming

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                              • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                Welp, it's all kicking off this week in AI!

                                Nvidia is going all squishy over a planned $100Bn investment in OpenAI:

                                Link Preview Image
                                Nvidia shares are down after a report that its OpenAI investment stalled. Here's what's happening

                                Nvidia's Jensen Huang criticized OpenAI's business strategy as the chip giant plans to invest up to $100 billion into the AI startup, per reports.

                                favicon

                                CNBC (www.cnbc.com)

                                Microsoft Azure income shrank 2% despite huge investment by MSFT and knocked a $375Bn hole in their finances: MSFT shares down 10% in 3 days:

                                Link Preview Image
                                With Shares Down 10% After Its Earnings Call, Is Microsoft a Buy? | The Motley Fool

                                Last week's sell-off made shares cheaper than they've been in years.

                                favicon

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                                … Is the AI bubble over?

                                S. LottS This user is from outside of this forum
                                S. LottS This user is from outside of this forum
                                S. Lott
                                wrote last edited by
                                #22

                                @cstross What’s A16Z going to throw money at next? Have they started burning piles of money in worship of some other Big New Thing™? Until the A16Z rocket fuel dries up, I think we’re stuck watching this mess.

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                                • cliffordheathC cliffordheath

                                  @johnboy @Sdowney @cstross It's almost like both sides provide things that won't be needed when everyone is suddenly reduced to subsistence farming

                                  John GriffithsJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  John Griffiths
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                                  #23

                                  @cliffordheath @Sdowney @cstross and 7 billion people die in a year 😞

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                                  • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                    Welp, it's all kicking off this week in AI!

                                    Nvidia is going all squishy over a planned $100Bn investment in OpenAI:

                                    Link Preview Image
                                    Nvidia shares are down after a report that its OpenAI investment stalled. Here's what's happening

                                    Nvidia's Jensen Huang criticized OpenAI's business strategy as the chip giant plans to invest up to $100 billion into the AI startup, per reports.

                                    favicon

                                    CNBC (www.cnbc.com)

                                    Microsoft Azure income shrank 2% despite huge investment by MSFT and knocked a $375Bn hole in their finances: MSFT shares down 10% in 3 days:

                                    Link Preview Image
                                    With Shares Down 10% After Its Earnings Call, Is Microsoft a Buy? | The Motley Fool

                                    Last week's sell-off made shares cheaper than they've been in years.

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                                    … Is the AI bubble over?

                                    JamesJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                    JamesJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #24

                                    @cstross

                                    I asked ChatGPT:
                                    Bottom line:
                                    Yes, in the last 48 hours there are clear signs of stress across AI-linked stocks, rising skepticism, and valuation readjustment — which feels bubble-ish. But no, there’s not yet decisive evidence that the entire AI boom is bursting. It’s more like a market correction and repricing, with risk shifting from hype toward real earnings and competition.

                                    If you want, I can break this down by specific companies, sectors (chips vs. software vs. services), or what this might mean for investing or the broader economy.

                                    Bubble-ish….like ChatGPT is a 45 yo guy from Brooklyn.

                                    And then it requested access to my microphone.

                                    Maybe the day will come when it doesn’t ask.

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                                    • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                      Welp, it's all kicking off this week in AI!

                                      Nvidia is going all squishy over a planned $100Bn investment in OpenAI:

                                      Link Preview Image
                                      Nvidia shares are down after a report that its OpenAI investment stalled. Here's what's happening

                                      Nvidia's Jensen Huang criticized OpenAI's business strategy as the chip giant plans to invest up to $100 billion into the AI startup, per reports.

                                      favicon

                                      CNBC (www.cnbc.com)

                                      Microsoft Azure income shrank 2% despite huge investment by MSFT and knocked a $375Bn hole in their finances: MSFT shares down 10% in 3 days:

                                      Link Preview Image
                                      With Shares Down 10% After Its Earnings Call, Is Microsoft a Buy? | The Motley Fool

                                      Last week's sell-off made shares cheaper than they've been in years.

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                                      … Is the AI bubble over?

                                      E This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      the esoteric programmer
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #25

                                      @cstross nah, it's probably not over, at least not yet

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                                      • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                        Welp, it's all kicking off this week in AI!

                                        Nvidia is going all squishy over a planned $100Bn investment in OpenAI:

                                        Link Preview Image
                                        Nvidia shares are down after a report that its OpenAI investment stalled. Here's what's happening

                                        Nvidia's Jensen Huang criticized OpenAI's business strategy as the chip giant plans to invest up to $100 billion into the AI startup, per reports.

                                        favicon

                                        CNBC (www.cnbc.com)

                                        Microsoft Azure income shrank 2% despite huge investment by MSFT and knocked a $375Bn hole in their finances: MSFT shares down 10% in 3 days:

                                        Link Preview Image
                                        With Shares Down 10% After Its Earnings Call, Is Microsoft a Buy? | The Motley Fool

                                        Last week's sell-off made shares cheaper than they've been in years.

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                                        … Is the AI bubble over?

                                        HTPC NZH This user is from outside of this forum
                                        HTPC NZH This user is from outside of this forum
                                        HTPC NZ
                                        wrote last edited by
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                                        @cstross think it is just going to normalise along what it is always about... Existing advertising corps will run the bullshit generators baked into their honeypots - search, social media etc. Others who foolishly tried to incorporate it into their products without really having this reach already will scale down. Masses will by default increase the use of BS generators as it will be at the core of their tech use.

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                                        • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                          @adamrice Exactly! How come you spotted it while all the blue chip funds didn't notice?

                                          LichoL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          Licho
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #27

                                          @cstross
                                          1. The classic game of chicken
                                          2. Echo chamber of yes men
                                          3. They have the insider knowledge when the dump will happen.

                                          That's my experience from the crypto world. That's how it usually happens. They will be the ones to scream "buy the dip, the upside is still unlimited" while emptying their bags on the retail investors.

                                          @adamrice

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