When the war in Ukraine broke out, and Europe was hesitant in the first year, I thought alright, this is a surprise to everyone and of course we need time to prepare.
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When the war in Ukraine broke out, and Europe was hesitant in the first year, I thought alright, this is a surprise to everyone and of course we need time to prepare.
Now 4 years have passed, and we are 450 million EU citizens and 69 UK citizens still standing on the sidelines, telling 38 million Ukrainians they should fight 133 million Russians on their own.
We could end this war. Instead we keep pretending that it is fine to let Ukraine take all the punches.
I find that profoundly shameful.
@randahl The problem is that other nations' leaders either believed Putin's threats about escalation "if NATO joined", and/or they feared internal political detriment if their nation's soldiers were killed.
We don't have leaders, we have politicians.
Although it probably would have only taken one other nation to commit troops for all others to quickly go "oh, yes, we will too" - but since no one did take that step.
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When the war in Ukraine broke out, and Europe was hesitant in the first year, I thought alright, this is a surprise to everyone and of course we need time to prepare.
Now 4 years have passed, and we are 450 million EU citizens and 69 UK citizens still standing on the sidelines, telling 38 million Ukrainians they should fight 133 million Russians on their own.
We could end this war. Instead we keep pretending that it is fine to let Ukraine take all the punches.
I find that profoundly shameful.
@randahl Ucrania y luego ha llegado Mr. Trump y la geopolítica mundial ha cambiado radilcamente. La guerra de Putin contra Ucrania pasó a ser una guerra de tanques y se ha convertido en una guerra de drones y puso sobre la mesa las debilidades de Europa más allá de su músculo económico.
La UE necesita nuevos actores políticos, el pueblo ruso debe hacérselo mirar y los aliados de Rusia como Irán, China e India no han contribuído mucho.
Han pasado muchas cosas desde el comienzo de la guerra ... -
When the war in Ukraine broke out, and Europe was hesitant in the first year, I thought alright, this is a surprise to everyone and of course we need time to prepare.
Now 4 years have passed, and we are 450 million EU citizens and 69 UK citizens still standing on the sidelines, telling 38 million Ukrainians they should fight 133 million Russians on their own.
We could end this war. Instead we keep pretending that it is fine to let Ukraine take all the punches.
I find that profoundly shameful.
30 sanction packages should have been one, a comprehensive one. And Russian shadow fleet ships can still pass by Denmark into the North Sea.
What a shame!
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When the war in Ukraine broke out, and Europe was hesitant in the first year, I thought alright, this is a surprise to everyone and of course we need time to prepare.
Now 4 years have passed, and we are 450 million EU citizens and 69 UK citizens still standing on the sidelines, telling 38 million Ukrainians they should fight 133 million Russians on their own.
We could end this war. Instead we keep pretending that it is fine to let Ukraine take all the punches.
I find that profoundly shameful.
@randahl If I look at this in the only area I have any expertise, it’s clear that Europe’s war machine doesn’t run without US tech.
And currently, the US is significantly puppeteered by rus interests in this thing, it seems to me?
Not a good technical base to stand on, confronting the rus.
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When the war in Ukraine broke out, and Europe was hesitant in the first year, I thought alright, this is a surprise to everyone and of course we need time to prepare.
Now 4 years have passed, and we are 450 million EU citizens and 69 UK citizens still standing on the sidelines, telling 38 million Ukrainians they should fight 133 million Russians on their own.
We could end this war. Instead we keep pretending that it is fine to let Ukraine take all the punches.
I find that profoundly shameful.
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When the war in Ukraine broke out, and Europe was hesitant in the first year, I thought alright, this is a surprise to everyone and of course we need time to prepare.
Now 4 years have passed, and we are 450 million EU citizens and 69 UK citizens still standing on the sidelines, telling 38 million Ukrainians they should fight 133 million Russians on their own.
We could end this war. Instead we keep pretending that it is fine to let Ukraine take all the punches.
I find that profoundly shameful.
@randahl The World is currently playing Putin's War. On his terms.
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When the war in Ukraine broke out, and Europe was hesitant in the first year, I thought alright, this is a surprise to everyone and of course we need time to prepare.
Now 4 years have passed, and we are 450 million EU citizens and 69 UK citizens still standing on the sidelines, telling 38 million Ukrainians they should fight 133 million Russians on their own.
We could end this war. Instead we keep pretending that it is fine to let Ukraine take all the punches.
I find that profoundly shameful.
@randahl you know how we could have already ended this war? Not giving the 2014 coup d'etat, sponsored by the US and the EU. That would have created 0 wars. Now you want the European citizenship to support a war created by some criminals in our name by giving the power in Ukraine to their worst nationalistic fascists? No, I don't think so. Go fight yourself.
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When the war in Ukraine broke out, and Europe was hesitant in the first year, I thought alright, this is a surprise to everyone and of course we need time to prepare.
Now 4 years have passed, and we are 450 million EU citizens and 69 UK citizens still standing on the sidelines, telling 38 million Ukrainians they should fight 133 million Russians on their own.
We could end this war. Instead we keep pretending that it is fine to let Ukraine take all the punches.
I find that profoundly shameful.
@randahl how can we? And why, esp. UK and USA, didn't we at the very beginning of the war, when Russia and Ukraine were leading the according talks pretty successfully themselves?
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When the war in Ukraine broke out, and Europe was hesitant in the first year, I thought alright, this is a surprise to everyone and of course we need time to prepare.
Now 4 years have passed, and we are 450 million EU citizens and 69 UK citizens still standing on the sidelines, telling 38 million Ukrainians they should fight 133 million Russians on their own.
We could end this war. Instead we keep pretending that it is fine to let Ukraine take all the punches.
I find that profoundly shameful.
@randahl Couldn't agree more! Let the people of Ukraine suffer so we can do business as usual :-((and EU leaders still dare to call that solidarity.)
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@randahl you know how we could have already ended this war? Not giving the 2014 coup d'etat, sponsored by the US and the EU. That would have created 0 wars. Now you want the European citizenship to support a war created by some criminals in our name by giving the power in Ukraine to their worst nationalistic fascists? No, I don't think so. Go fight yourself.
so the ukrainian people rose up in 2014 of their own accord
it was not mind control from the CIA that made ukrainians rise up
and now today they fight with their lives to remain free of russia. again, of their own accord
do you imagine they fight now because of CIA mind control?
🤪
do you have any respect for the ukrainian people at all?
no you don't
you're a liar pushing weak kremlin disinfo or you're an idiot with a tiny head full of kremlin disinfo
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so the ukrainian people rose up in 2014 of their own accord
it was not mind control from the CIA that made ukrainians rise up
and now today they fight with their lives to remain free of russia. again, of their own accord
do you imagine they fight now because of CIA mind control?
🤪
do you have any respect for the ukrainian people at all?
no you don't
you're a liar pushing weak kremlin disinfo or you're an idiot with a tiny head full of kremlin disinfo
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@randahl Alright. Let's just attack Russia and hope we don't see 5.000 nukes falling from the sky. That sounds like an amazing idea.
Actually, why don't we just end ourselves and spare the Russians the trouble.
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