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How can a mastodon user tell if their account is "hidden" or "limited" ?

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  • CharlesC Charles

    @footils @FediTips

    ive heard from several people who have not been emailed a reason

    (I too on previous servers had my account disabled completely with no reason and no response from the admin/owner, and also no reply for GDPR requests given they were based in the EU)

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    @FediTips

    I should have looked at this profile before interacting with an antisemite. Bye.

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    • CharlesC Charles

      @FediTips @footils

      have you not noticed how un-diverse mastodon is?

      have you not questioned why?

      a bunch of self-regulating bros? what could possibly be wrong with that?

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      @charlesdelavalleepoussin @footils

      The lack of diversity on here is a serious problem but it's not going to be solved by allowing everyone to post whatever they want without ever limiting or blocking anyone.

      There needs to be MORE moderation on here, not less. People need to be protected from hatred, not exposed to it.

      We need more tools like reply controls and automatic alerts for moderators when bad keywords are used.

      No one should be seeing hatred in their feeds due to lax moderation.

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      • Fedi.TipsF Fedi.Tips

        @charlesdelavalleepoussin @footils

        The lack of diversity on here is a serious problem but it's not going to be solved by allowing everyone to post whatever they want without ever limiting or blocking anyone.

        There needs to be MORE moderation on here, not less. People need to be protected from hatred, not exposed to it.

        We need more tools like reply controls and automatic alerts for moderators when bad keywords are used.

        No one should be seeing hatred in their feeds due to lax moderation.

        Fedi.TipsF This user is from outside of this forum
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        wrote last edited by
        #18

        @charlesdelavalleepoussin @footils

        I follow a lot of people critical of the Fediverse on my personal account to keep tabs on how bad the problem is and what exactly is going wrong.

        The main issue raised is too many purveyors of hatred being allowed to attack members of minorities. Allowing hate puts people off staying here, accounts posting hate need to be banned.

        If you removed all limits on what accounts could say and do, it would make the situation much worse.

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        • Fedi.TipsF Fedi.Tips

          @charlesdelavalleepoussin

          Who are you suggesting should regulate it? Elon Musk? Mark Zuckerberg? Donald Trump?

          Every time there has been a centralised authority running a social network, it has ended up in the hands of billionaires that support hatred.

          The idea of this place is to give the grassroots control of their social networks. If you would prefer social networks to be corporate, there are already plenty of corporate options.

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          #19

          @FediTips

          you show a lack of imagination

          many people have suggested ideas such as

          * mandatory transparency to ensure rogue admins are held to account

          * public statstistics on admin behaviour incl GDPR complaince

          * users having a right to a second binding opinion

          * voting in supervisory groups / committees to balance rogue admins

          * ... etc etc

          but the aristocracy always ignore such ideas

          the fediverse conferences as a result are very much self-congratulatory

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          • Fedi.TipsF Fedi.Tips

            @charlesdelavalleepoussin

            I'm not completely clear how an account being limited is victimhood?

            What are you suggesting social networks should do instead, not limit accounts at all?

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            #20

            @FediTips

            you've shown a poor level of maturity (like some mastodon admins) and I can't make you understand

            but this conversation will perhaps highlight to others what the issue is

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            • Fedi.TipsF Fedi.Tips

              @charlesdelavalleepoussin @footils

              The lack of diversity on here is a serious problem but it's not going to be solved by allowing everyone to post whatever they want without ever limiting or blocking anyone.

              There needs to be MORE moderation on here, not less. People need to be protected from hatred, not exposed to it.

              We need more tools like reply controls and automatic alerts for moderators when bad keywords are used.

              No one should be seeing hatred in their feeds due to lax moderation.

              CharlesC This user is from outside of this forum
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              wrote last edited by
              #21

              @FediTips @footils

              who defines hatred?

              immature white europeans?

              we've seen where that leads

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              • Fedi.TipsF Fedi.Tips

                @charlesdelavalleepoussin @footils

                I follow a lot of people critical of the Fediverse on my personal account to keep tabs on how bad the problem is and what exactly is going wrong.

                The main issue raised is too many purveyors of hatred being allowed to attack members of minorities. Allowing hate puts people off staying here, accounts posting hate need to be banned.

                If you removed all limits on what accounts could say and do, it would make the situation much worse.

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                Charles
                wrote last edited by
                #22

                @FediTips @footils

                im a minority

                im telling you that the problem is not "hate" but censorship by biased European admins

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                  #23

                  @robert @footils @FediTips

                  Twitter, IG, Bluesky are far more diverse than mastodon - and I've been on about 5 difference servers over a number of years.

                  What made you ask such a poorly informed question?

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                  • CharlesC Charles

                    @FediTips @footils

                    im a minority

                    im telling you that the problem is not "hate" but censorship by biased European admins

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                    #24

                    @FediTips @footils

                    I'm blocking you - tired of this confident ignorance

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                    • CharlesC Charles

                      How can a mastodon user tell if their account is "hidden" or "limited" ?

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                      I see this a lot with accounts I want to follow.

                      1. Can admins do this without notifying the user?

                      2. Is it possible to see the reason accounts have been censored?

                      If the answers to any of these two questions is "no" then it seems mastodon is subject to abuse from biased/rogue admins and moderators.

                      cc @FediTips

                      #mastodon #censorship #fediverse #fedihelp

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                      #25

                      @charlesdelavalleepoussin @FediTips As opposed to billionaire tech-bros doing exactly that? Why not host your own instance & you can do the moderating yourself?

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                      • CharlesC Charles

                        @FediTips

                        but they don't reply

                        and also "go find another server" is like "this restaurant is racist? go elsewhere". it puts the onus on the victim not the perpetrator

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                        #26

                        @charlesdelavalleepoussin @FediTips Get back to us once you have solved for those issues on #META #X #Substack #TruthSocial #Reddit etc

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                        • CharlesC Charles

                          @FediTips

                          I'm not communicating with that server. I communicated with people I followed and who followed me.

                          Your privileged rationalisation of victimhood will age badly.

                          What I'm hearing is that there is zero mechanism for holding admins/owners to account. How convenient.

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                          @charlesdelavalleepoussin @FediTips Start your instance & show us all how it’s done oh righteous one! πŸ™„

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                          • CharlesC Charles

                            @FediTips

                            you've shown a poor level of maturity (like some mastodon admins) and I can't make you understand

                            but this conversation will perhaps highlight to others what the issue is

                            Don Hawkins - W7DAHD This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @charlesdelavalleepoussin @FediTips Actually, what this conversation thread highlights to me is that you can’t make a coherent case & instead you keep whining, pissing, & moaning senselessly.

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                            • CharlesC Charles

                              @FediTips @footils

                              who defines hatred?

                              immature white europeans?

                              we've seen where that leads

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                              wrote last edited by
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                              @charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.social @FediTips@social.growyourown.services @footils@social.cologne actually if you know why you got banned from a fediverse server the admins always respond, @stux@mstdn.social is quite reachable
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                              • patricusP patricus
                                @charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.social @FediTips@social.growyourown.services @footils@social.cologne actually if you know why you got banned from a fediverse server the admins always respond, @stux@mstdn.social is quite reachable
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                                @patricus
                                When we suspend we do that with a reason and attach why it's done πŸ˜‰
                                @charlesdelavalleepoussin
                                If you DM me your handle i can look into it if you like
                                @FediTips @footils

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