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The most annoying thing about corporate surveillance to me is the arrogance of the prediction mechanisms.

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  • Windy cityP Windy city

    The most annoying thing about corporate surveillance to me is the arrogance of the prediction mechanisms.

    These algorithms build a model of me based on my clicks from three years ago and then try to trap me in that loop forever. They show me music they think I'll like, and news they think I'll engage with, and videos they think will enrage me enough to keep me hooked to their platforms. They are actively trying to flatten my personality into something easy to monetize.

    As most people I've seen say out loud, "Privacy as a concept is way beyond hiding secrets. A part of it also means preserving your capacity to change. To be surprised. To be inconsistent."

    If I could tell every human one thing, it would be to actively refuse to be a predictable data point. Mess up their metrics. In whatever way you are capable of.

    #socialmedia #algorithmicbias #privacy #dataprivacy #quotes #foss #facebook #linkedin #llm #noai #enshittification #reading #books #baking #art #philosophy #adhd #depression #cybersecurity

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    @pheonix Isn’t this in a way an even more sinister form of the 50s advertisement that the ”tradwife” aesthetic is derived from?

    By pushing the same ideal of womanhood from all angles possible the goal was to currate a standardised adult female consumer unit to which it’d be easier to push additional uniformed goods and services.

    Advanced #capitalism deters #authenticity as it makes high volume peddling harder, and thus the production-consumption-loop less efficient.

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    • Windy cityP Windy city

      The most annoying thing about corporate surveillance to me is the arrogance of the prediction mechanisms.

      These algorithms build a model of me based on my clicks from three years ago and then try to trap me in that loop forever. They show me music they think I'll like, and news they think I'll engage with, and videos they think will enrage me enough to keep me hooked to their platforms. They are actively trying to flatten my personality into something easy to monetize.

      As most people I've seen say out loud, "Privacy as a concept is way beyond hiding secrets. A part of it also means preserving your capacity to change. To be surprised. To be inconsistent."

      If I could tell every human one thing, it would be to actively refuse to be a predictable data point. Mess up their metrics. In whatever way you are capable of.

      #socialmedia #algorithmicbias #privacy #dataprivacy #quotes #foss #facebook #linkedin #llm #noai #enshittification #reading #books #baking #art #philosophy #adhd #depression #cybersecurity

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      #32

      @pheonix

      Bingo. Living in the world of a surveillance state and of AI is to live in a nightmare Groundhog Day.

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      • Windy cityP Windy city

        The most annoying thing about corporate surveillance to me is the arrogance of the prediction mechanisms.

        These algorithms build a model of me based on my clicks from three years ago and then try to trap me in that loop forever. They show me music they think I'll like, and news they think I'll engage with, and videos they think will enrage me enough to keep me hooked to their platforms. They are actively trying to flatten my personality into something easy to monetize.

        As most people I've seen say out loud, "Privacy as a concept is way beyond hiding secrets. A part of it also means preserving your capacity to change. To be surprised. To be inconsistent."

        If I could tell every human one thing, it would be to actively refuse to be a predictable data point. Mess up their metrics. In whatever way you are capable of.

        #socialmedia #algorithmicbias #privacy #dataprivacy #quotes #foss #facebook #linkedin #llm #noai #enshittification #reading #books #baking #art #philosophy #adhd #depression #cybersecurity

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        @pheonix Yesterday I looked up the terms for the shirt worn by men when they wear a tuxedo. Today I get thousands of ads for dress shirts. Coincidence? I think not.

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        • SuperMoosieS SuperMoosie

          @pheonix

          The predictions are not even any good.

          Spotify keep serving up songs I immediately skip every single time it plays them

          Netflix says you will love these shows.

          50% are shite I never would watch, the other 50% are shows I have already watched. Maybe I watch one in 10 years time, but not going to rewatch something from last week.

          Also you scroll through search results and they keep shoving a bunch of the same movies in. I have already scrolled past these 12 times. Stop showing me them! Show me the rest of the results.

          Or I buy a new kettle and get kettle ads for the next 6 months. Do you think I am
          setting up a kettle farm? How many kettles do you think I need?

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          @SuperMoosie @pheonix Maybe you were intending to breed kettles? I'm sure there's a way to monetise that...

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          • Windy cityP Windy city

            The most annoying thing about corporate surveillance to me is the arrogance of the prediction mechanisms.

            These algorithms build a model of me based on my clicks from three years ago and then try to trap me in that loop forever. They show me music they think I'll like, and news they think I'll engage with, and videos they think will enrage me enough to keep me hooked to their platforms. They are actively trying to flatten my personality into something easy to monetize.

            As most people I've seen say out loud, "Privacy as a concept is way beyond hiding secrets. A part of it also means preserving your capacity to change. To be surprised. To be inconsistent."

            If I could tell every human one thing, it would be to actively refuse to be a predictable data point. Mess up their metrics. In whatever way you are capable of.

            #socialmedia #algorithmicbias #privacy #dataprivacy #quotes #foss #facebook #linkedin #llm #noai #enshittification #reading #books #baking #art #philosophy #adhd #depression #cybersecurity

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            @pheonix that’s something I hate. Watch a Korean tv show, and all they will suggest you are korean tv show. I am more layered and complex than that! I watch and wanna find out about different things!!!

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            • Su_GS Su_G

              @pheonix
              Yes, that is so strange… as you & others in this thread comment: “You bought X once, so you must need 10 more of it! Who thought of this?” 🤔
              It's so creep- weird. Why does the algo keep trying to sell us the same thing? As if we are our past? It’s such incredibly lazy programming. Advertizers pay for this? Why? Make it make sense!! 🤔
              #algorithms #marketing #advertizers #advertisers #advertising
              @Beldarak

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              @Su_G @pheonix @Beldarak

              Advertisers pay *extra* for this! That's how FB and Google got so rich, by promising advertisers targeting to likely buyers. But it's just so self-evidently terrible that it's hard to believe any advertisers still fall for it. SMFH

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              • Su_GS Su_G

                @pheonix
                Yes, that is so strange… as you & others in this thread comment: “You bought X once, so you must need 10 more of it! Who thought of this?” 🤔
                It's so creep- weird. Why does the algo keep trying to sell us the same thing? As if we are our past? It’s such incredibly lazy programming. Advertizers pay for this? Why? Make it make sense!! 🤔
                #algorithms #marketing #advertizers #advertisers #advertising
                @Beldarak

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                #37

                @Su_G @pheonix @Beldarak I use marktplaats.nl. When you search for product x your list will be spoiled by all x type products for months. Wtf.

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                • SkjeggtrollS Skjeggtroll

                  @pheonix

                  I watched the trailer for 'RRR' and a couple of other Indian blockbuster action movies back in 2022, and YouTube _still_ think I'm into everything Bollywood.

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                  wrote last edited by
                  #38

                  @skjeggtroll @pheonix
                  I sometimes get emails in Spanish for some reason. It's very inconvenient when a government office does it to me since i don't speak it 😅

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                  • SuperMoosieS SuperMoosie

                    @pheonix

                    The predictions are not even any good.

                    Spotify keep serving up songs I immediately skip every single time it plays them

                    Netflix says you will love these shows.

                    50% are shite I never would watch, the other 50% are shows I have already watched. Maybe I watch one in 10 years time, but not going to rewatch something from last week.

                    Also you scroll through search results and they keep shoving a bunch of the same movies in. I have already scrolled past these 12 times. Stop showing me them! Show me the rest of the results.

                    Or I buy a new kettle and get kettle ads for the next 6 months. Do you think I am
                    setting up a kettle farm? How many kettles do you think I need?

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                    #39

                    @SuperMoosie @pheonix I think it’s because the company selling kettle ads gets payed for serving up kettle ads; it’s not so important whether anybody actually buys a kettle at any point. Now they have data that shows they showed x amount of people ads for kettles, and so mission accomplished!

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                    • Windy cityP Windy city

                      The most annoying thing about corporate surveillance to me is the arrogance of the prediction mechanisms.

                      These algorithms build a model of me based on my clicks from three years ago and then try to trap me in that loop forever. They show me music they think I'll like, and news they think I'll engage with, and videos they think will enrage me enough to keep me hooked to their platforms. They are actively trying to flatten my personality into something easy to monetize.

                      As most people I've seen say out loud, "Privacy as a concept is way beyond hiding secrets. A part of it also means preserving your capacity to change. To be surprised. To be inconsistent."

                      If I could tell every human one thing, it would be to actively refuse to be a predictable data point. Mess up their metrics. In whatever way you are capable of.

                      #socialmedia #algorithmicbias #privacy #dataprivacy #quotes #foss #facebook #linkedin #llm #noai #enshittification #reading #books #baking #art #philosophy #adhd #depression #cybersecurity

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                      #40

                      @pheonix IMO this is 100% complementary to also insisting that the methods they use to track us are laughably simplistic and broken. they claim to "know everything about us" but they're just sniffing the fumes and picking up the crumbs of each life as it's lived, understanding nothing. as surveilled as we are they still miss so much, and their data hoards are worth + capable of far less (eg predictively) than they claim, and we're in for a major economic disaster when that becomes undeniable.

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                      • JPJ JP

                        @pheonix IMO this is 100% complementary to also insisting that the methods they use to track us are laughably simplistic and broken. they claim to "know everything about us" but they're just sniffing the fumes and picking up the crumbs of each life as it's lived, understanding nothing. as surveilled as we are they still miss so much, and their data hoards are worth + capable of far less (eg predictively) than they claim, and we're in for a major economic disaster when that becomes undeniable.

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                        #41

                        @pheonix the experience of getting a "recommendation" from a system that is wildly off the mark is so common that everyone, not just people like us who are deliberately living so as to be illegible to capital, understands this mismatch intimately. it's an illusion. the world of for profit digital advertising and surveillance is built on a colossal lie about how humanity works.

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