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https://OpenStreetMap.org has been disrupted today.

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  • ISibboII ISibboI

    @osm_tech the scrapers don't know that you can torrent the whole OSM for free, without ddosing the webservice

    OpenStreetMap Ops TeamO This user is from outside of this forum
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    OpenStreetMap Ops Team
    wrote last edited by
    #6

    @ISibboI Correct. Not an ounce of brain. It has been going on for months, but it is just getting worse. Waste of their resources/time and ours.

    Petri SalmelaP Jonas :debian: :norway_fb:J Not meN 3 Replies Last reply
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    • ISibboII ISibboI

      @osm_tech the scrapers don't know that you can torrent the whole OSM for free, without ddosing the webservice

      Barry RowlingsonG This user is from outside of this forum
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      Barry Rowlingson
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      @ISibboI @osm_tech Is there a torrent for the tiles? Or just the world file? Are they scraping tiles?

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      • Barry RowlingsonG Barry Rowlingson

        @ISibboI @osm_tech Is there a torrent for the tiles? Or just the world file? Are they scraping tiles?

        OpenStreetMap Ops TeamO This user is from outside of this forum
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        OpenStreetMap Ops Team
        wrote last edited by
        #8

        @geospacedman @ISibboI They are scraping the website pages: /ways/, /nodes/ and /relations/. All this data is published on planet.osm.org already.

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        • OpenStreetMap Ops TeamO OpenStreetMap Ops Team

          @geospacedman @ISibboI They are scraping the website pages: /ways/, /nodes/ and /relations/. All this data is published on planet.osm.org already.

          Barry RowlingsonG This user is from outside of this forum
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          Barry Rowlingson
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          #9

          @osm_tech @ISibboI Oh that's so much worse than I'd imagined.

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          • OpenStreetMap Ops TeamO OpenStreetMap Ops Team

            https://OpenStreetMap.org has been disrupted today. We're working to keep the site online while facing extreme load from anonymous scrapers spread across 100,000+ IP addresses. Please be patient while we mitigate and protect the service. #OpenStreetMap #DDoS #Scrapers #AI

            RudiRastlosR This user is from outside of this forum
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            RudiRastlos
            wrote last edited by
            #10

            @osm_tech ๐Ÿซฃ thank you for your work!

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            • OpenStreetMap Ops TeamO OpenStreetMap Ops Team

              https://OpenStreetMap.org has been disrupted today. We're working to keep the site online while facing extreme load from anonymous scrapers spread across 100,000+ IP addresses. Please be patient while we mitigate and protect the service. #OpenStreetMap #DDoS #Scrapers #AI

              JustinJ This user is from outside of this forum
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              Justin
              wrote last edited by
              #11

              @osm_tech
              https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/new-linux-botnet-sshstalker-uses-old-school-irc-for-c2-comms/

              Wonder if related.

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              • JustinJ Justin

                @osm_tech
                https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/new-linux-botnet-sshstalker-uses-old-school-irc-for-c2-comms/

                Wonder if related.

                OpenStreetMap Ops TeamO This user is from outside of this forum
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                OpenStreetMap Ops Team
                wrote last edited by
                #12

                @justin No. Background: https://diff.wikimedia.org/2025/04/01/how-crawlers-impact-the-operations-of-the-wikimedia-projects/ and https://cloud.google.com/blog/topics/threat-intelligence/disrupting-largest-residential-proxy-network

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                • OpenStreetMap Ops TeamO OpenStreetMap Ops Team

                  https://OpenStreetMap.org has been disrupted today. We're working to keep the site online while facing extreme load from anonymous scrapers spread across 100,000+ IP addresses. Please be patient while we mitigate and protect the service. #OpenStreetMap #DDoS #Scrapers #AI

                  Maya LandsmanM This user is from outside of this forum
                  Maya LandsmanM This user is from outside of this forum
                  Maya Landsman
                  wrote last edited by
                  #13

                  Oof, sorry you are dealing with that load. Beyond blocklists, caching tiles plus aggressive rate limits per ASN, and serving 429s with Retry-After can help. For bulk use, requiring API keys for heavy endpoints can also cut abuse. Thanks for keeping OSM running.

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                  • OpenStreetMap Ops TeamO OpenStreetMap Ops Team

                    https://OpenStreetMap.org has been disrupted today. We're working to keep the site online while facing extreme load from anonymous scrapers spread across 100,000+ IP addresses. Please be patient while we mitigate and protect the service. #OpenStreetMap #DDoS #Scrapers #AI

                    Joan-to-Debt Ratio ๐Ÿ˜ทC This user is from outside of this forum
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                    Joan-to-Debt Ratio ๐Ÿ˜ท
                    wrote last edited by
                    #14

                    @osm_tech Ugh, I am so sorry to hear this, and thank you to everyone working on this project.

                    Such a nightmare, and so completely pointless. ๐Ÿคฌ

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                    • OpenStreetMap Ops TeamO OpenStreetMap Ops Team

                      @ISibboI Correct. Not an ounce of brain. It has been going on for months, but it is just getting worse. Waste of their resources/time and ours.

                      Petri SalmelaP This user is from outside of this forum
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                      Petri Salmela
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                      #15

                      @ISibboI @osm_tech I think, that spreading it on 100 000+ IP addresses tells they know they are doing shady thing.

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                      • OpenStreetMap Ops TeamO OpenStreetMap Ops Team

                        https://OpenStreetMap.org has been disrupted today. We're working to keep the site online while facing extreme load from anonymous scrapers spread across 100,000+ IP addresses. Please be patient while we mitigate and protect the service. #OpenStreetMap #DDoS #Scrapers #AI

                        George E. ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธโ™ฅ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿณ๏ธโ€๐ŸŒˆ๐Ÿณ๏ธโ€โšง๏ธG This user is from outside of this forum
                        George E. ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธโ™ฅ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿณ๏ธโ€๐ŸŒˆ๐Ÿณ๏ธโ€โšง๏ธG This user is from outside of this forum
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                        wrote last edited by
                        #16

                        @osm_tech@en.osm.town
                        Time to deploy Anubis in front of all the URLs that the scrapers are hitting.

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                        • OpenStreetMap Ops TeamO OpenStreetMap Ops Team

                          https://OpenStreetMap.org has been disrupted today. We're working to keep the site online while facing extreme load from anonymous scrapers spread across 100,000+ IP addresses. Please be patient while we mitigate and protect the service. #OpenStreetMap #DDoS #Scrapers #AI

                          Tom ChadwinT This user is from outside of this forum
                          Tom ChadwinT This user is from outside of this forum
                          Tom Chadwin
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                          @osm_tech Good luck, and thank you as always.

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                          • OpenStreetMap Ops TeamO OpenStreetMap Ops Team

                            https://OpenStreetMap.org has been disrupted today. We're working to keep the site online while facing extreme load from anonymous scrapers spread across 100,000+ IP addresses. Please be patient while we mitigate and protect the service. #OpenStreetMap #DDoS #Scrapers #AI

                            Don Clemente ๐Ÿ”œ39C3 โ˜Ž๏ธ2470D This user is from outside of this forum
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                            Don Clemente ๐Ÿ”œ39C3 โ˜Ž๏ธ2470
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                            #18

                            @osm_tech wonder if it is collateral damage or intended, to get rid of alternative sources of information?
                            Anyway, zip-bomb the hell out of them.

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                            • Don Clemente ๐Ÿ”œ39C3 โ˜Ž๏ธ2470D Don Clemente ๐Ÿ”œ39C3 โ˜Ž๏ธ2470

                              @osm_tech wonder if it is collateral damage or intended, to get rid of alternative sources of information?
                              Anyway, zip-bomb the hell out of them.

                              OpenStreetMap Ops TeamO This user is from outside of this forum
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                              OpenStreetMap Ops Team
                              wrote last edited by
                              #19

                              @Don_Clemente Just dumb scrapers. They want our data, so maybe we /should/ redirect them to the latest full history planet file, it is only 245GB ๐Ÿ˜‰

                              Don Clemente ๐Ÿ”œ39C3 โ˜Ž๏ธ2470D Ivรกn Sรกnchez OrtegaI 2 Replies Last reply
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                              • George E. ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธโ™ฅ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿณ๏ธโ€๐ŸŒˆ๐Ÿณ๏ธโ€โšง๏ธG George E. ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธโ™ฅ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿณ๏ธโ€๐ŸŒˆ๐Ÿณ๏ธโ€โšง๏ธ

                                @osm_tech@en.osm.town
                                Time to deploy Anubis in front of all the URLs that the scrapers are hitting.

                                OpenStreetMap Ops TeamO This user is from outside of this forum
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                                OpenStreetMap Ops Team
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                                @gme Anubis is great, but not ideal for us. We have reasonable technical mitigations in place, but it is unfortunately an arms race (and time/resource blackhole)

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                                • OpenStreetMap Ops TeamO OpenStreetMap Ops Team

                                  @Don_Clemente Just dumb scrapers. They want our data, so maybe we /should/ redirect them to the latest full history planet file, it is only 245GB ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                  Don Clemente ๐Ÿ”œ39C3 โ˜Ž๏ธ2470D This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  Don Clemente ๐Ÿ”œ39C3 โ˜Ž๏ธ2470
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                                  #21

                                  @osm_tech yes, but that's heavy on your resources and bandwidth. A zip file of 10GB Zeros is much more resource-efficient on your side ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                                  • Petri SalmelaP Petri Salmela

                                    @ISibboI @osm_tech I think, that spreading it on 100 000+ IP addresses tells they know they are doing shady thing.

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                                    Gerard Thornley
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                                    @pesasa @ISibboI @osm_tech It's a pattern I've seen others relate to the building of AI datasets.

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                                    • G Gerard Thornley

                                      @pesasa @ISibboI @osm_tech It's a pattern I've seen others relate to the building of AI datasets.

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                                      Gerard Thornley
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                                      #23

                                      @pesasa @ISibboI @osm_tech
                                      If its helpful (if you want to stuff something unpleasant down their throats), I believe @jwz has been making a 'json bomb' for (AIUI) pretty much this purpose:
                                      https://mastodon.social/@jwz/116049057703097965

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                                      • OpenStreetMap Ops TeamO OpenStreetMap Ops Team

                                        https://OpenStreetMap.org has been disrupted today. We're working to keep the site online while facing extreme load from anonymous scrapers spread across 100,000+ IP addresses. Please be patient while we mitigate and protect the service. #OpenStreetMap #DDoS #Scrapers #AI

                                        WTLW This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        WTL
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                                        #24

                                        @osm_tech @lehtimaeki I wonder if anyone has looked at the various AI browsers out there to see if they're used for active scraping.

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                                        • OpenStreetMap Ops TeamO OpenStreetMap Ops Team

                                          @Don_Clemente Just dumb scrapers. They want our data, so maybe we /should/ redirect them to the latest full history planet file, it is only 245GB ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                          Ivรกn Sรกnchez OrtegaI This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          Ivรกn Sรกnchez Ortega
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #25

                                          @osm_tech @Don_Clemente Replacing the actual data with Null Island data that points to planet.osm.org is not a dumb idea IMHO

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