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https://OpenStreetMap.org has been disrupted today.

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  • OpenStreetMap Ops TeamO OpenStreetMap Ops Team

    https://OpenStreetMap.org has been disrupted today. We're working to keep the site online while facing extreme load from anonymous scrapers spread across 100,000+ IP addresses. Please be patient while we mitigate and protect the service. #OpenStreetMap #DDoS #Scrapers #AI

    Maya LandsmanM This user is from outside of this forum
    Maya LandsmanM This user is from outside of this forum
    Maya Landsman
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    #13

    Oof, sorry you are dealing with that load. Beyond blocklists, caching tiles plus aggressive rate limits per ASN, and serving 429s with Retry-After can help. For bulk use, requiring API keys for heavy endpoints can also cut abuse. Thanks for keeping OSM running.

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    • OpenStreetMap Ops TeamO OpenStreetMap Ops Team

      https://OpenStreetMap.org has been disrupted today. We're working to keep the site online while facing extreme load from anonymous scrapers spread across 100,000+ IP addresses. Please be patient while we mitigate and protect the service. #OpenStreetMap #DDoS #Scrapers #AI

      Joan-to-Debt Ratio 😷C This user is from outside of this forum
      Joan-to-Debt Ratio 😷C This user is from outside of this forum
      Joan-to-Debt Ratio 😷
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      #14

      @osm_tech Ugh, I am so sorry to hear this, and thank you to everyone working on this project.

      Such a nightmare, and so completely pointless. 🀬

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      • OpenStreetMap Ops TeamO OpenStreetMap Ops Team

        @ISibboI Correct. Not an ounce of brain. It has been going on for months, but it is just getting worse. Waste of their resources/time and ours.

        Petri SalmelaP This user is from outside of this forum
        Petri SalmelaP This user is from outside of this forum
        Petri Salmela
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        #15

        @ISibboI @osm_tech I think, that spreading it on 100 000+ IP addresses tells they know they are doing shady thing.

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        • OpenStreetMap Ops TeamO OpenStreetMap Ops Team

          https://OpenStreetMap.org has been disrupted today. We're working to keep the site online while facing extreme load from anonymous scrapers spread across 100,000+ IP addresses. Please be patient while we mitigate and protect the service. #OpenStreetMap #DDoS #Scrapers #AI

          George E. πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έβ™₯πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦πŸ‡΅πŸ‡ΈπŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆπŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈG This user is from outside of this forum
          George E. πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έβ™₯πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦πŸ‡΅πŸ‡ΈπŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆπŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈG This user is from outside of this forum
          George E. πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έβ™₯πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦πŸ‡΅πŸ‡ΈπŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆπŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈ
          wrote last edited by
          #16

          @osm_tech@en.osm.town
          Time to deploy Anubis in front of all the URLs that the scrapers are hitting.

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          • OpenStreetMap Ops TeamO OpenStreetMap Ops Team

            https://OpenStreetMap.org has been disrupted today. We're working to keep the site online while facing extreme load from anonymous scrapers spread across 100,000+ IP addresses. Please be patient while we mitigate and protect the service. #OpenStreetMap #DDoS #Scrapers #AI

            Tom ChadwinT This user is from outside of this forum
            Tom ChadwinT This user is from outside of this forum
            Tom Chadwin
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            #17

            @osm_tech Good luck, and thank you as always.

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            • OpenStreetMap Ops TeamO OpenStreetMap Ops Team

              https://OpenStreetMap.org has been disrupted today. We're working to keep the site online while facing extreme load from anonymous scrapers spread across 100,000+ IP addresses. Please be patient while we mitigate and protect the service. #OpenStreetMap #DDoS #Scrapers #AI

              Don Clemente πŸ”œ39C3 ☎️2470D This user is from outside of this forum
              Don Clemente πŸ”œ39C3 ☎️2470D This user is from outside of this forum
              Don Clemente πŸ”œ39C3 ☎️2470
              wrote last edited by
              #18

              @osm_tech wonder if it is collateral damage or intended, to get rid of alternative sources of information?
              Anyway, zip-bomb the hell out of them.

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              • Don Clemente πŸ”œ39C3 ☎️2470D Don Clemente πŸ”œ39C3 ☎️2470

                @osm_tech wonder if it is collateral damage or intended, to get rid of alternative sources of information?
                Anyway, zip-bomb the hell out of them.

                OpenStreetMap Ops TeamO This user is from outside of this forum
                OpenStreetMap Ops TeamO This user is from outside of this forum
                OpenStreetMap Ops Team
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                #19

                @Don_Clemente Just dumb scrapers. They want our data, so maybe we /should/ redirect them to the latest full history planet file, it is only 245GB πŸ˜‰

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                • George E. πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έβ™₯πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦πŸ‡΅πŸ‡ΈπŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆπŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈG George E. πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έβ™₯πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦πŸ‡΅πŸ‡ΈπŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆπŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈ

                  @osm_tech@en.osm.town
                  Time to deploy Anubis in front of all the URLs that the scrapers are hitting.

                  OpenStreetMap Ops TeamO This user is from outside of this forum
                  OpenStreetMap Ops TeamO This user is from outside of this forum
                  OpenStreetMap Ops Team
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                  #20

                  @gme Anubis is great, but not ideal for us. We have reasonable technical mitigations in place, but it is unfortunately an arms race (and time/resource blackhole)

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                  • OpenStreetMap Ops TeamO OpenStreetMap Ops Team

                    @Don_Clemente Just dumb scrapers. They want our data, so maybe we /should/ redirect them to the latest full history planet file, it is only 245GB πŸ˜‰

                    Don Clemente πŸ”œ39C3 ☎️2470D This user is from outside of this forum
                    Don Clemente πŸ”œ39C3 ☎️2470D This user is from outside of this forum
                    Don Clemente πŸ”œ39C3 ☎️2470
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                    #21

                    @osm_tech yes, but that's heavy on your resources and bandwidth. A zip file of 10GB Zeros is much more resource-efficient on your side πŸ˜‰

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                    • Petri SalmelaP Petri Salmela

                      @ISibboI @osm_tech I think, that spreading it on 100 000+ IP addresses tells they know they are doing shady thing.

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                      Gerard Thornley
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                      #22

                      @pesasa @ISibboI @osm_tech It's a pattern I've seen others relate to the building of AI datasets.

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                      • G Gerard Thornley

                        @pesasa @ISibboI @osm_tech It's a pattern I've seen others relate to the building of AI datasets.

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                        Gerard Thornley
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                        #23

                        @pesasa @ISibboI @osm_tech
                        If its helpful (if you want to stuff something unpleasant down their throats), I believe @jwz has been making a 'json bomb' for (AIUI) pretty much this purpose:
                        https://mastodon.social/@jwz/116049057703097965

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                        • OpenStreetMap Ops TeamO OpenStreetMap Ops Team

                          https://OpenStreetMap.org has been disrupted today. We're working to keep the site online while facing extreme load from anonymous scrapers spread across 100,000+ IP addresses. Please be patient while we mitigate and protect the service. #OpenStreetMap #DDoS #Scrapers #AI

                          WTLW This user is from outside of this forum
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                          WTL
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                          #24

                          @osm_tech @lehtimaeki I wonder if anyone has looked at the various AI browsers out there to see if they're used for active scraping.

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                          • OpenStreetMap Ops TeamO OpenStreetMap Ops Team

                            @Don_Clemente Just dumb scrapers. They want our data, so maybe we /should/ redirect them to the latest full history planet file, it is only 245GB πŸ˜‰

                            IvΓ‘n SΓ‘nchez OrtegaI This user is from outside of this forum
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                            IvΓ‘n SΓ‘nchez Ortega
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                            #25

                            @osm_tech @Don_Clemente Replacing the actual data with Null Island data that points to planet.osm.org is not a dumb idea IMHO

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                            • OpenStreetMap Ops TeamO OpenStreetMap Ops Team

                              https://OpenStreetMap.org has been disrupted today. We're working to keep the site online while facing extreme load from anonymous scrapers spread across 100,000+ IP addresses. Please be patient while we mitigate and protect the service. #OpenStreetMap #DDoS #Scrapers #AI

                              Martin RustM This user is from outside of this forum
                              Martin RustM This user is from outside of this forum
                              Martin Rust
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                              #26

                              @osm_tech Block all read access except from registered users? And be restrictive on whom to grant an account (captcha, verified email address)?

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                              • OpenStreetMap Ops TeamO OpenStreetMap Ops Team

                                https://OpenStreetMap.org has been disrupted today. We're working to keep the site online while facing extreme load from anonymous scrapers spread across 100,000+ IP addresses. Please be patient while we mitigate and protect the service. #OpenStreetMap #DDoS #Scrapers #AI

                                Bill WoodcockW This user is from outside of this forum
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                                Bill Woodcock
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                                #27
                                @osm_tech

                                Please, please, AI bubble, burst already, so we can stop seeing this kind of vandalism.
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                                • nag4wikaN nag4wika

                                  @osm_tech cc telecomix

                                  The DoctorD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  The Doctor
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                                  #28

                                  @osm_tech @nag4wika Yuh?

                                  ~~~==:}}

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                                  • Don Clemente πŸ”œ39C3 ☎️2470D Don Clemente πŸ”œ39C3 ☎️2470

                                    @osm_tech yes, but that's heavy on your resources and bandwidth. A zip file of 10GB Zeros is much more resource-efficient on your side πŸ˜‰

                                    The DoctorD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    The Doctor
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                                    #29

                                    @osm_tech @Don_Clemente Can confirm. >:D

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                                    • Martin RustM Martin Rust

                                      @osm_tech Block all read access except from registered users? And be restrictive on whom to grant an account (captcha, verified email address)?

                                      Open RiskO This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Open RiskO This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Open Risk
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                                      @martinrust

                                      had a similar issue with a much, much smaller wiki server (πŸ˜… ) but facing the same anonymous scrapers coming from thousands of random IP's.

                                      Couldn't find a way to keep them from crashing the server, so now access is by registration only.

                                      Very disruptive, this "AI" race to the bottom destroyed the open internet 😟

                                      @osm_tech

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                                      • OpenStreetMap Ops TeamO OpenStreetMap Ops Team

                                        https://OpenStreetMap.org has been disrupted today. We're working to keep the site online while facing extreme load from anonymous scrapers spread across 100,000+ IP addresses. Please be patient while we mitigate and protect the service. #OpenStreetMap #DDoS #Scrapers #AI

                                        Air Quotes ComedianA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        Air Quotes Comedian
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                                        #31

                                        @osm_tech I went to use OpenStreetMap today to get directions but it asked me to sign up/ log in, so I used Mapquest instead which doesn't.

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                                        • OpenStreetMap Ops TeamO OpenStreetMap Ops Team

                                          @ISibboI Correct. Not an ounce of brain. It has been going on for months, but it is just getting worse. Waste of their resources/time and ours.

                                          Jonas :debian: :norway_fb:J This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          Jonas :debian: :norway_fb:
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                                          @osm_tech @ISibboI Scraping the OpenStreetMap website gives of the same vibe as stealing free stuff.

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