As someone whose job description has expanded to include: "Prepare offers for specialized IT systems including server hardware", I have this to say:
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Okay, I have several points to make here:
- I am _extremely_ distrustful of videos - especially YouTube videos - as a reliable source of information. I have come across too many social media commentators who have tried to tell me: "Watch this video, it will totally debunk global warming!" And they never did. Give me a properly sourced article any day.
- I also can't help noticing that the AI industry has attracted some of the biggest scam artists in world history (measured by total currency). Their entire business model is based on keeping the hype going. Thus, I am not going to take the word of anyone who is a representative of that industry.
- While I am not a software developer myself, I do work for a software development company. Some of the software developers _are_ experimenting with AI, but I do not get the impression that this has revolutionarized their development cycles yet. When it does, _then_ I will start taking this seriously.
@juergen_hubert If you don't trust Videos, try Claude Code with Opus 4.6 yourself. But that will cost you 20 Euros or so.
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@juergen_hubert If you don't trust Videos, try Claude Code with Opus 4.6 yourself. But that will cost you 20 Euros or so.
I am not a software developer, and am in no position to evaluate such tools - especially over the course of several years, which would be necessary for this.
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I am not a software developer, and am in no position to evaluate such tools - especially over the course of several years, which would be necessary for this.
@juergen_hubert @IngoHeinscher (that was honestly amusing to see someone reply to suspicions of a grift with "trust me it's not, and you can find out by paying"
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@juergen_hubert @IngoHeinscher (that was honestly amusing to see someone reply to suspicions of a grift with "trust me it's not, and you can find out by paying" )
@growfediverse @juergen_hubert
Dude. I propose to watch a (free) video that explains it. If one does not believe the video, what other option is there than to try for yourself? Unless you want to wait 3-6 months until open source models can do the same that things like opus4.6 can, and have proper hardware available, paying is the only way to try. That's just a fact. -
I am not a software developer, and am in no position to evaluate such tools - especially over the course of several years, which would be necessary for this.
@juergen_hubert Well, if you feel you are not qualified to talk about it, then why are you talking about it?
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@juergen_hubert Well, if you feel you are not qualified to talk about it, then why are you talking about it?
Because I listen to people who _are_ qualified, such as the software developers in my company.
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Because I listen to people who _are_ qualified, such as the software developers in my company.
@juergen_hubert And have they actually tried these new technologies, or is this just another case of "nothing runs faster than my horse"?
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@juergen_hubert And have they actually tried these new technologies, or is this just another case of "nothing runs faster than my horse"?
@juergen_hubert And by "these new technologies" I mean things like Opus 4.6 or ChatGPT 5.2. Not something from two years ago.
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@juergen_hubert And have they actually tried these new technologies, or is this just another case of "nothing runs faster than my horse"?
As it happened, I talked one of the developers about their thoughts on current AI tools for software development. He had apparently followed some recent #OpenAI tech demos, and was unimpressed how they created a massive, bloated, buggy mess they created which they were unable to fix.
He has also used some recent AI tools (I don't know which precise versions), and described its addictive qualities - when you fudge around with it, you seem to experience a "haze" until you come to your senses a few hours late and think: "What the hell am I doing?"
He is also convinced that increasing reliance on AI tools is why the quality of Windows 11 has been getting worse and worse.
He is _not_ averse to AI on general principle - he is frequently testing these tools out. But he also says that right now they are not living up to the hype.
As for his background, he has now worked seven years at my company, within the same software development team. Whatever code he implements, he has to live with it in the long run - whether he has written it himself or has generated it by AI.
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As it happened, I talked one of the developers about their thoughts on current AI tools for software development. He had apparently followed some recent #OpenAI tech demos, and was unimpressed how they created a massive, bloated, buggy mess they created which they were unable to fix.
He has also used some recent AI tools (I don't know which precise versions), and described its addictive qualities - when you fudge around with it, you seem to experience a "haze" until you come to your senses a few hours late and think: "What the hell am I doing?"
He is also convinced that increasing reliance on AI tools is why the quality of Windows 11 has been getting worse and worse.
He is _not_ averse to AI on general principle - he is frequently testing these tools out. But he also says that right now they are not living up to the hype.
As for his background, he has now worked seven years at my company, within the same software development team. Whatever code he implements, he has to live with it in the long run - whether he has written it himself or has generated it by AI.
@juergen_hubert Well, how recent?
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@juergen_hubert Well, how recent?
Within the last few months, I believe.
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Within the last few months, I believe.
@juergen_hubert Well, Opus 4.6 came out on the 5th of February.
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@juergen_hubert Well, Opus 4.6 came out on the 5th of February.
So obviously, it's being hyped as the New Shiny Thing, but nobody has had the chance to truly evaluate it if it keeps the promises in the long run.
I work in _Sales_ these days. I know how this works.
