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  3. As someone whose job description has expanded to include: "Prepare offers for specialized IT systems including server hardware", I have this to say:

As someone whose job description has expanded to include: "Prepare offers for specialized IT systems including server hardware", I have this to say:

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  • Jürgen HubertJ Jürgen Hubert

    @IngoHeinscher

    I am not a software developer, and am in no position to evaluate such tools - especially over the course of several years, which would be necessary for this.

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    @juergen_hubert @IngoHeinscher (that was honestly amusing to see someone reply to suspicions of a grift with "trust me it's not, and you can find out by paying" 😆 )
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    • Grow FediverseG Grow Fediverse
      @juergen_hubert @IngoHeinscher (that was honestly amusing to see someone reply to suspicions of a grift with "trust me it's not, and you can find out by paying" 😆 )
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      @growfediverse @juergen_hubert
      Dude. I propose to watch a (free) video that explains it. If one does not believe the video, what other option is there than to try for yourself? Unless you want to wait 3-6 months until open source models can do the same that things like opus4.6 can, and have proper hardware available, paying is the only way to try. That's just a fact.

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      • Jürgen HubertJ Jürgen Hubert

        @IngoHeinscher

        I am not a software developer, and am in no position to evaluate such tools - especially over the course of several years, which would be necessary for this.

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        @juergen_hubert Well, if you feel you are not qualified to talk about it, then why are you talking about it?

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        • Ingo HeinscherI Ingo Heinscher

          @juergen_hubert Well, if you feel you are not qualified to talk about it, then why are you talking about it?

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          @IngoHeinscher

          Because I listen to people who _are_ qualified, such as the software developers in my company.

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          • Jürgen HubertJ Jürgen Hubert

            @IngoHeinscher

            Because I listen to people who _are_ qualified, such as the software developers in my company.

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            @juergen_hubert And have they actually tried these new technologies, or is this just another case of "nothing runs faster than my horse"?

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            • Ingo HeinscherI Ingo Heinscher

              @juergen_hubert And have they actually tried these new technologies, or is this just another case of "nothing runs faster than my horse"?

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              @juergen_hubert And by "these new technologies" I mean things like Opus 4.6 or ChatGPT 5.2. Not something from two years ago.

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              • Ingo HeinscherI Ingo Heinscher

                @juergen_hubert And have they actually tried these new technologies, or is this just another case of "nothing runs faster than my horse"?

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                @IngoHeinscher

                As it happened, I talked one of the developers about their thoughts on current AI tools for software development. He had apparently followed some recent #OpenAI tech demos, and was unimpressed how they created a massive, bloated, buggy mess they created which they were unable to fix.

                He has also used some recent AI tools (I don't know which precise versions), and described its addictive qualities - when you fudge around with it, you seem to experience a "haze" until you come to your senses a few hours late and think: "What the hell am I doing?"

                He is also convinced that increasing reliance on AI tools is why the quality of Windows 11 has been getting worse and worse.

                He is _not_ averse to AI on general principle - he is frequently testing these tools out. But he also says that right now they are not living up to the hype.

                As for his background, he has now worked seven years at my company, within the same software development team. Whatever code he implements, he has to live with it in the long run - whether he has written it himself or has generated it by AI.

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                • Jürgen HubertJ Jürgen Hubert

                  @IngoHeinscher

                  As it happened, I talked one of the developers about their thoughts on current AI tools for software development. He had apparently followed some recent #OpenAI tech demos, and was unimpressed how they created a massive, bloated, buggy mess they created which they were unable to fix.

                  He has also used some recent AI tools (I don't know which precise versions), and described its addictive qualities - when you fudge around with it, you seem to experience a "haze" until you come to your senses a few hours late and think: "What the hell am I doing?"

                  He is also convinced that increasing reliance on AI tools is why the quality of Windows 11 has been getting worse and worse.

                  He is _not_ averse to AI on general principle - he is frequently testing these tools out. But he also says that right now they are not living up to the hype.

                  As for his background, he has now worked seven years at my company, within the same software development team. Whatever code he implements, he has to live with it in the long run - whether he has written it himself or has generated it by AI.

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                  @juergen_hubert Well, how recent?

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                  • Ingo HeinscherI Ingo Heinscher

                    @juergen_hubert Well, how recent?

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                    @IngoHeinscher

                    Within the last few months, I believe.

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                    • Jürgen HubertJ Jürgen Hubert

                      @IngoHeinscher

                      Within the last few months, I believe.

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                      @juergen_hubert Well, Opus 4.6 came out on the 5th of February.

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                      • Ingo HeinscherI Ingo Heinscher

                        @juergen_hubert Well, Opus 4.6 came out on the 5th of February.

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                        @IngoHeinscher

                        So obviously, it's being hyped as the New Shiny Thing, but nobody has had the chance to truly evaluate it if it keeps the promises in the long run.

                        I work in _Sales_ these days. I know how this works.

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