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I hate that we are spending so much money on war and the military in this day and age when we have no shortage of global problems to tackle.

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  • Jürgen HubertJ Jürgen Hubert

    @faab64

    Why, are you assuming that Putin _wouldn't_ attack the Baltic EU nations if he thought he could pull it off?

    FarhadF This user is from outside of this forum
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    Farhad
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    @juergen_hubert
    Because it is not in his interest or ability.

    I'm not an idiot.

    I've seen this disgusting propaganda for half a century.

    But idiots are in majority and happily getting fucked by the US while looking fearfully at Russia

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    • FarhadF Farhad

      @juergen_hubert
      Because it is not in his interest or ability.

      I'm not an idiot.

      I've seen this disgusting propaganda for half a century.

      But idiots are in majority and happily getting fucked by the US while looking fearfully at Russia

      rabbit5959R This user is from outside of this forum
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      rabbit5959
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      #5

      @faab64 @juergen_hubert You're right. This is military industry propaganda and an effort to erode civil rights in Europe, as is happening in the US & UK. Putin is not stupid (quite intelligent compared to US & UK leaders actually) and he knows there is no way Russia, with a GDP the size of Italy, can invade and conquer all of Europe. It's a stupid idea.

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      • FarhadF Farhad

        @juergen_hubert
        Because it is not in his interest or ability.

        I'm not an idiot.

        I've seen this disgusting propaganda for half a century.

        But idiots are in majority and happily getting fucked by the US while looking fearfully at Russia

        Jürgen HubertJ This user is from outside of this forum
        Jürgen HubertJ This user is from outside of this forum
        Jürgen Hubert
        wrote on last edited by
        #6

        @faab64

        He and his cronies have started otherwise.

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        • rabbit5959R rabbit5959

          @faab64 @juergen_hubert You're right. This is military industry propaganda and an effort to erode civil rights in Europe, as is happening in the US & UK. Putin is not stupid (quite intelligent compared to US & UK leaders actually) and he knows there is no way Russia, with a GDP the size of Italy, can invade and conquer all of Europe. It's a stupid idea.

          Jürgen HubertJ This user is from outside of this forum
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          Jürgen Hubert
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          @rabbit5959 @faab64

          People also overestimated the intelligence of the Nazis.

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          • Jürgen HubertJ Jürgen Hubert

            I hate that we are spending so much money on war and the military in this day and age when we have no shortage of global problems to tackle.

            Still, given the current situation, I approve of this. I mean, #Putin has switched the economy of #Russia to a war footing. And if he should win the war against #Ukraine , does anyone really expect that he will switch back to a civilian economy?

            No. Like the Third Reich, he's going to continue to use the military until his empire collapses.

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            Ukraine war latest: EU agrees €90bn loan for Ukraine as Putin tells BBC the West is 'making Russia the enemy'

            European leaders reached the deal after failing to agree on using frozen Russian assets valued at €210bn.

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            Ray McCarthy
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            @juergen_hubert
            Russia is making Russia the enemy.

            No-one, not even the Finns, Japanese or Chinese, wants to invade them for the 80 years.

            Russia on the other hand has created and financed strife in UK (Brexit), Europe & Africa (wars).

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            • Ray McCarthyR Ray McCarthy

              @juergen_hubert
              Russia is making Russia the enemy.

              No-one, not even the Finns, Japanese or Chinese, wants to invade them for the 80 years.

              Russia on the other hand has created and financed strife in UK (Brexit), Europe & Africa (wars).

              Jürgen HubertJ This user is from outside of this forum
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              Jürgen Hubert
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              #9

              @raymaccarthy

              And he is providing active support to German Nazis, which I take _personally_.

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              • Jürgen HubertJ Jürgen Hubert

                I hate that we are spending so much money on war and the military in this day and age when we have no shortage of global problems to tackle.

                Still, given the current situation, I approve of this. I mean, #Putin has switched the economy of #Russia to a war footing. And if he should win the war against #Ukraine , does anyone really expect that he will switch back to a civilian economy?

                No. Like the Third Reich, he's going to continue to use the military until his empire collapses.

                Link Preview Image
                Ukraine war latest: EU agrees €90bn loan for Ukraine as Putin tells BBC the West is 'making Russia the enemy'

                European leaders reached the deal after failing to agree on using frozen Russian assets valued at €210bn.

                favicon

                BBC News (www.bbc.com)

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                plan-A
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                #10
                @juergen_hubert Fueling War as you said costly etc..
                Also whoever believes CNN is quite retarded if it comes to propaganda.
                Are you going to join the line of defense? you think this all will be resolved with cash and the youngest?
                And the cash from the poor?
                I despite your likes frankly but I stay humble here and still respect your stupid opinion.
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                • plan-AZ plan-A
                  @juergen_hubert Fueling War as you said costly etc..
                  Also whoever believes CNN is quite retarded if it comes to propaganda.
                  Are you going to join the line of defense? you think this all will be resolved with cash and the youngest?
                  And the cash from the poor?
                  I despite your likes frankly but I stay humble here and still respect your stupid opinion.
                  Jürgen HubertJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                  Jürgen Hubert
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                  @zer0unplanned

                  I am not a draft dodger, but I am now way beyond an age where I would be called up to active military service.

                  Also, I think that Imperialism should be opposed even when it's not the USA doing it.

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                  • Jürgen HubertJ Jürgen Hubert

                    @zer0unplanned

                    I am not a draft dodger, but I am now way beyond an age where I would be called up to active military service.

                    Also, I think that Imperialism should be opposed even when it's not the USA doing it.

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                    plan-A
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                    @juergen_hubert Well it's the USA and us EU doing it right now and decades before.
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                    • plan-AZ plan-A
                      @juergen_hubert Well it's the USA and us EU doing it right now and decades before.
                      Jürgen HubertJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                      Jürgen Hubert
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                      @zer0unplanned

                      And Russia is also doing it right now. I mean, how else do you describe the invasion of Ukraine? Not to mention all the other states on their periphery that Russia - and the Soviet Union before them - have attacked?

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                      • Jürgen HubertJ Jürgen Hubert

                        @zer0unplanned

                        And Russia is also doing it right now. I mean, how else do you describe the invasion of Ukraine? Not to mention all the other states on their periphery that Russia - and the Soviet Union before them - have attacked?

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                        plan-A
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                        @juergen_hubert I know but is that a reason for us to engage in War and make the poor pay for an army that will send your children to death?
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                        • plan-AZ plan-A
                          @juergen_hubert I know but is that a reason for us to engage in War and make the poor pay for an army that will send your children to death?
                          Jürgen HubertJ This user is from outside of this forum
                          Jürgen HubertJ This user is from outside of this forum
                          Jürgen Hubert
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                          #15

                          @zer0unplanned

                          Right now, two hostile foreign powers - Russia and the USA - want Nazis to take over Germany. Again. This is not hypothetical - the Nazis have build up strong connections with the Russian government with frequent "business trips" where they meet members of Russia's propaganda outreach, and they are now doing the same with the #MAGA movement.

                          And "Nazis taking over Germany, again" is an outcome in which I have the _strongest_ personal interest in preventing - since it directly threatens the safety of not only me, but many other people I care about.

                          So yeah, I support increased cooperation within and greater independence of the #EuropeanUnion , since that's one of the best ways of stopping the Nazis. And I am also going to support #Ukraine , since they are directly fighting one of those fascists threats to Germany.

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