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  • Windy cityP Windy city

    The most annoying thing about corporate surveillance to me is the arrogance of the prediction mechanisms.

    These algorithms build a model of me based on my clicks from three years ago and then try to trap me in that loop forever. They show me music they think I'll like, and news they think I'll engage with, and videos they think will enrage me enough to keep me hooked to their platforms. They are actively trying to flatten my personality into something easy to monetize.

    As most people I've seen say out loud, "Privacy as a concept is way beyond hiding secrets. A part of it also means preserving your capacity to change. To be surprised. To be inconsistent."

    If I could tell every human one thing, it would be to actively refuse to be a predictable data point. Mess up their metrics. In whatever way you are capable of.

    #socialmedia #algorithmicbias #privacy #dataprivacy #quotes #foss #facebook #linkedin #llm #noai #enshittification #reading #books #baking #art #philosophy #adhd #depression #cybersecurity

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    @pheonix Being here without the algo I am really noticing how much I struggle against the flattening. It is sweet peace here without it constantly cornering and pigeon holing me. Well said.

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    • Windy cityP Windy city

      The most annoying thing about corporate surveillance to me is the arrogance of the prediction mechanisms.

      These algorithms build a model of me based on my clicks from three years ago and then try to trap me in that loop forever. They show me music they think I'll like, and news they think I'll engage with, and videos they think will enrage me enough to keep me hooked to their platforms. They are actively trying to flatten my personality into something easy to monetize.

      As most people I've seen say out loud, "Privacy as a concept is way beyond hiding secrets. A part of it also means preserving your capacity to change. To be surprised. To be inconsistent."

      If I could tell every human one thing, it would be to actively refuse to be a predictable data point. Mess up their metrics. In whatever way you are capable of.

      #socialmedia #algorithmicbias #privacy #dataprivacy #quotes #foss #facebook #linkedin #llm #noai #enshittification #reading #books #baking #art #philosophy #adhd #depression #cybersecurity

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      @pheonix

      Very well said.

      The challenge is that there are so many people who don't actually want any change. They WANT the predictability of being fed their favorite thing every day.

      People are so comfortable that change is anathema.

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      • Windy cityP Windy city

        The most annoying thing about corporate surveillance to me is the arrogance of the prediction mechanisms.

        These algorithms build a model of me based on my clicks from three years ago and then try to trap me in that loop forever. They show me music they think I'll like, and news they think I'll engage with, and videos they think will enrage me enough to keep me hooked to their platforms. They are actively trying to flatten my personality into something easy to monetize.

        As most people I've seen say out loud, "Privacy as a concept is way beyond hiding secrets. A part of it also means preserving your capacity to change. To be surprised. To be inconsistent."

        If I could tell every human one thing, it would be to actively refuse to be a predictable data point. Mess up their metrics. In whatever way you are capable of.

        #socialmedia #algorithmicbias #privacy #dataprivacy #quotes #foss #facebook #linkedin #llm #noai #enshittification #reading #books #baking #art #philosophy #adhd #depression #cybersecurity

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        @pheonix I get a viceral thrill every time the phone tries to do the "I won't charge now cause you will wake up at bla bla time so I will only start charging at bla bla-2" and then I unplug it cause it is WRONG and then it has to go through the night with whatever juice is left hahahahHAHAHA!

        Yes I am a hardcore punk rebel.

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        • Windy cityP Windy city

          The most annoying thing about corporate surveillance to me is the arrogance of the prediction mechanisms.

          These algorithms build a model of me based on my clicks from three years ago and then try to trap me in that loop forever. They show me music they think I'll like, and news they think I'll engage with, and videos they think will enrage me enough to keep me hooked to their platforms. They are actively trying to flatten my personality into something easy to monetize.

          As most people I've seen say out loud, "Privacy as a concept is way beyond hiding secrets. A part of it also means preserving your capacity to change. To be surprised. To be inconsistent."

          If I could tell every human one thing, it would be to actively refuse to be a predictable data point. Mess up their metrics. In whatever way you are capable of.

          #socialmedia #algorithmicbias #privacy #dataprivacy #quotes #foss #facebook #linkedin #llm #noai #enshittification #reading #books #baking #art #philosophy #adhd #depression #cybersecurity

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          @pheonix It is a concept that I felt, but never found a way to express. You gave words to that, and for this I thank you!

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          • Windy cityP Windy city

            The most annoying thing about corporate surveillance to me is the arrogance of the prediction mechanisms.

            These algorithms build a model of me based on my clicks from three years ago and then try to trap me in that loop forever. They show me music they think I'll like, and news they think I'll engage with, and videos they think will enrage me enough to keep me hooked to their platforms. They are actively trying to flatten my personality into something easy to monetize.

            As most people I've seen say out loud, "Privacy as a concept is way beyond hiding secrets. A part of it also means preserving your capacity to change. To be surprised. To be inconsistent."

            If I could tell every human one thing, it would be to actively refuse to be a predictable data point. Mess up their metrics. In whatever way you are capable of.

            #socialmedia #algorithmicbias #privacy #dataprivacy #quotes #foss #facebook #linkedin #llm #noai #enshittification #reading #books #baking #art #philosophy #adhd #depression #cybersecurity

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            @pheonix

            It has become so hard to discover music because of this.

            Algo: hey, let's listen to the same 10 tracks over and over again. If you're nice you'll get one out of your life forever next week replaced by a new one !

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            • BeldarakB Beldarak

              @pheonix

              It has become so hard to discover music because of this.

              Algo: hey, let's listen to the same 10 tracks over and over again. If you're nice you'll get one out of your life forever next week replaced by a new one !

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              @pheonix
              And also the classical, "I see you bought a hair dryer, you probably need ten more right? I'll show you some all month"

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              • Windy cityP Windy city

                The most annoying thing about corporate surveillance to me is the arrogance of the prediction mechanisms.

                These algorithms build a model of me based on my clicks from three years ago and then try to trap me in that loop forever. They show me music they think I'll like, and news they think I'll engage with, and videos they think will enrage me enough to keep me hooked to their platforms. They are actively trying to flatten my personality into something easy to monetize.

                As most people I've seen say out loud, "Privacy as a concept is way beyond hiding secrets. A part of it also means preserving your capacity to change. To be surprised. To be inconsistent."

                If I could tell every human one thing, it would be to actively refuse to be a predictable data point. Mess up their metrics. In whatever way you are capable of.

                #socialmedia #algorithmicbias #privacy #dataprivacy #quotes #foss #facebook #linkedin #llm #noai #enshittification #reading #books #baking #art #philosophy #adhd #depression #cybersecurity

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                @pheonix ...I've always been a moving target. i was a Philosophy major - LOL. ... Oh crap ... now they know ... LOL

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                • Windy cityP Windy city

                  The most annoying thing about corporate surveillance to me is the arrogance of the prediction mechanisms.

                  These algorithms build a model of me based on my clicks from three years ago and then try to trap me in that loop forever. They show me music they think I'll like, and news they think I'll engage with, and videos they think will enrage me enough to keep me hooked to their platforms. They are actively trying to flatten my personality into something easy to monetize.

                  As most people I've seen say out loud, "Privacy as a concept is way beyond hiding secrets. A part of it also means preserving your capacity to change. To be surprised. To be inconsistent."

                  If I could tell every human one thing, it would be to actively refuse to be a predictable data point. Mess up their metrics. In whatever way you are capable of.

                  #socialmedia #algorithmicbias #privacy #dataprivacy #quotes #foss #facebook #linkedin #llm #noai #enshittification #reading #books #baking #art #philosophy #adhd #depression #cybersecurity

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                  @pheonix

                  I watched the trailer for 'RRR' and a couple of other Indian blockbuster action movies back in 2022, and YouTube _still_ think I'm into everything Bollywood.

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                  • Windy cityP Windy city

                    The most annoying thing about corporate surveillance to me is the arrogance of the prediction mechanisms.

                    These algorithms build a model of me based on my clicks from three years ago and then try to trap me in that loop forever. They show me music they think I'll like, and news they think I'll engage with, and videos they think will enrage me enough to keep me hooked to their platforms. They are actively trying to flatten my personality into something easy to monetize.

                    As most people I've seen say out loud, "Privacy as a concept is way beyond hiding secrets. A part of it also means preserving your capacity to change. To be surprised. To be inconsistent."

                    If I could tell every human one thing, it would be to actively refuse to be a predictable data point. Mess up their metrics. In whatever way you are capable of.

                    #socialmedia #algorithmicbias #privacy #dataprivacy #quotes #foss #facebook #linkedin #llm #noai #enshittification #reading #books #baking #art #philosophy #adhd #depression #cybersecurity

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                    @pheonix

                    The predictions are not even any good.

                    Spotify keep serving up songs I immediately skip every single time it plays them

                    Netflix says you will love these shows.

                    50% are shite I never would watch, the other 50% are shows I have already watched. Maybe I watch one in 10 years time, but not going to rewatch something from last week.

                    Also you scroll through search results and they keep shoving a bunch of the same movies in. I have already scrolled past these 12 times. Stop showing me them! Show me the rest of the results.

                    Or I buy a new kettle and get kettle ads for the next 6 months. Do you think I am
                    setting up a kettle farm? How many kettles do you think I need?

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                    • Windy cityP Windy city

                      The most annoying thing about corporate surveillance to me is the arrogance of the prediction mechanisms.

                      These algorithms build a model of me based on my clicks from three years ago and then try to trap me in that loop forever. They show me music they think I'll like, and news they think I'll engage with, and videos they think will enrage me enough to keep me hooked to their platforms. They are actively trying to flatten my personality into something easy to monetize.

                      As most people I've seen say out loud, "Privacy as a concept is way beyond hiding secrets. A part of it also means preserving your capacity to change. To be surprised. To be inconsistent."

                      If I could tell every human one thing, it would be to actively refuse to be a predictable data point. Mess up their metrics. In whatever way you are capable of.

                      #socialmedia #algorithmicbias #privacy #dataprivacy #quotes #foss #facebook #linkedin #llm #noai #enshittification #reading #books #baking #art #philosophy #adhd #depression #cybersecurity

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                      LB: The part about music resonates with me. I use Apple Music, because I have since the very first day it was launched in the UK. It's where all my playlists are, and all the music I've matched to it from my own library.

                      But I've largely given up on the weekly automatically generated playlists because they've become a rotation of essentially the same songs. I must love State of Love and Trust by Pearl Jam, because I listen to it at least once a week, but I listen to it because it gets served up to me at least once a week.

                      At least one Radiohead or Thom Yorke track pops up in at least one of my playlists every week, and has done for a decade. I like Radiohead, but not *that* much. I even deleted everything by them from my library to see if it would make a difference. Nope. Still there.

                      @pheonix

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                      • Windy cityP Windy city

                        The most annoying thing about corporate surveillance to me is the arrogance of the prediction mechanisms.

                        These algorithms build a model of me based on my clicks from three years ago and then try to trap me in that loop forever. They show me music they think I'll like, and news they think I'll engage with, and videos they think will enrage me enough to keep me hooked to their platforms. They are actively trying to flatten my personality into something easy to monetize.

                        As most people I've seen say out loud, "Privacy as a concept is way beyond hiding secrets. A part of it also means preserving your capacity to change. To be surprised. To be inconsistent."

                        If I could tell every human one thing, it would be to actively refuse to be a predictable data point. Mess up their metrics. In whatever way you are capable of.

                        #socialmedia #algorithmicbias #privacy #dataprivacy #quotes #foss #facebook #linkedin #llm #noai #enshittification #reading #books #baking #art #philosophy #adhd #depression #cybersecurity

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                        @pheonix Before I left Facebook back in 2007 or so I changed my user location to Lome, Togo, then began using FB to search all sorts of Togolaise stuff. Within weeks I was getting only about ten per cent of the junk emails I used to, and junk snail mail dropped to almost nothing. Gaming FB and leaving them was one of the best things I did that year ๐Ÿ‘

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                        • Windy cityP Windy city

                          The most annoying thing about corporate surveillance to me is the arrogance of the prediction mechanisms.

                          These algorithms build a model of me based on my clicks from three years ago and then try to trap me in that loop forever. They show me music they think I'll like, and news they think I'll engage with, and videos they think will enrage me enough to keep me hooked to their platforms. They are actively trying to flatten my personality into something easy to monetize.

                          As most people I've seen say out loud, "Privacy as a concept is way beyond hiding secrets. A part of it also means preserving your capacity to change. To be surprised. To be inconsistent."

                          If I could tell every human one thing, it would be to actively refuse to be a predictable data point. Mess up their metrics. In whatever way you are capable of.

                          #socialmedia #algorithmicbias #privacy #dataprivacy #quotes #foss #facebook #linkedin #llm #noai #enshittification #reading #books #baking #art #philosophy #adhd #depression #cybersecurity

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                          @pheonix Very good advice. Just because somewhere asks, you don't have to tell

                          I make it a game to break profiling & love it when I get wrong suggestions

                          I tell the truth on govt, medical & financial things but anything else is fake

                          I use unconnected aliases with different email, personal details to limit profiling to a small niche of someone who legally doesn't exist

                          The problem is too much data collection &
                          anything that can be faked should be

                          TOS about accurate data are always ignored

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                          • Windy cityP Windy city

                            The most annoying thing about corporate surveillance to me is the arrogance of the prediction mechanisms.

                            These algorithms build a model of me based on my clicks from three years ago and then try to trap me in that loop forever. They show me music they think I'll like, and news they think I'll engage with, and videos they think will enrage me enough to keep me hooked to their platforms. They are actively trying to flatten my personality into something easy to monetize.

                            As most people I've seen say out loud, "Privacy as a concept is way beyond hiding secrets. A part of it also means preserving your capacity to change. To be surprised. To be inconsistent."

                            If I could tell every human one thing, it would be to actively refuse to be a predictable data point. Mess up their metrics. In whatever way you are capable of.

                            #socialmedia #algorithmicbias #privacy #dataprivacy #quotes #foss #facebook #linkedin #llm #noai #enshittification #reading #books #baking #art #philosophy #adhd #depression #cybersecurity

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                            @pheonix Well said. As some others have already stated: youโ€™ve put words to a thought Iโ€™ve had flitting at the edge of my consciousness but couldnโ€™t express. ๐Ÿ˜

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                            • Windy cityP Windy city

                              The most annoying thing about corporate surveillance to me is the arrogance of the prediction mechanisms.

                              These algorithms build a model of me based on my clicks from three years ago and then try to trap me in that loop forever. They show me music they think I'll like, and news they think I'll engage with, and videos they think will enrage me enough to keep me hooked to their platforms. They are actively trying to flatten my personality into something easy to monetize.

                              As most people I've seen say out loud, "Privacy as a concept is way beyond hiding secrets. A part of it also means preserving your capacity to change. To be surprised. To be inconsistent."

                              If I could tell every human one thing, it would be to actively refuse to be a predictable data point. Mess up their metrics. In whatever way you are capable of.

                              #socialmedia #algorithmicbias #privacy #dataprivacy #quotes #foss #facebook #linkedin #llm #noai #enshittification #reading #books #baking #art #philosophy #adhd #depression #cybersecurity

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                              @pheonix You'd think the shopping predictions would be great as it's how they make their money, that they'd be laser-focused on my tastes and needs with pinpoint accuracy. I just got recommended curling tongs by Amazon. I've been completely bald with the sides/back shaven for 20+ years.

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                              • Windy cityP Windy city

                                The most annoying thing about corporate surveillance to me is the arrogance of the prediction mechanisms.

                                These algorithms build a model of me based on my clicks from three years ago and then try to trap me in that loop forever. They show me music they think I'll like, and news they think I'll engage with, and videos they think will enrage me enough to keep me hooked to their platforms. They are actively trying to flatten my personality into something easy to monetize.

                                As most people I've seen say out loud, "Privacy as a concept is way beyond hiding secrets. A part of it also means preserving your capacity to change. To be surprised. To be inconsistent."

                                If I could tell every human one thing, it would be to actively refuse to be a predictable data point. Mess up their metrics. In whatever way you are capable of.

                                #socialmedia #algorithmicbias #privacy #dataprivacy #quotes #foss #facebook #linkedin #llm #noai #enshittification #reading #books #baking #art #philosophy #adhd #depression #cybersecurity

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                                @pheonix

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                                • Windy cityP Windy city

                                  The most annoying thing about corporate surveillance to me is the arrogance of the prediction mechanisms.

                                  These algorithms build a model of me based on my clicks from three years ago and then try to trap me in that loop forever. They show me music they think I'll like, and news they think I'll engage with, and videos they think will enrage me enough to keep me hooked to their platforms. They are actively trying to flatten my personality into something easy to monetize.

                                  As most people I've seen say out loud, "Privacy as a concept is way beyond hiding secrets. A part of it also means preserving your capacity to change. To be surprised. To be inconsistent."

                                  If I could tell every human one thing, it would be to actively refuse to be a predictable data point. Mess up their metrics. In whatever way you are capable of.

                                  #socialmedia #algorithmicbias #privacy #dataprivacy #quotes #foss #facebook #linkedin #llm #noai #enshittification #reading #books #baking #art #philosophy #adhd #depression #cybersecurity

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                                  @pheonix It's called Genre Capture. I think.

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                                  • Windy cityP Windy city

                                    The most annoying thing about corporate surveillance to me is the arrogance of the prediction mechanisms.

                                    These algorithms build a model of me based on my clicks from three years ago and then try to trap me in that loop forever. They show me music they think I'll like, and news they think I'll engage with, and videos they think will enrage me enough to keep me hooked to their platforms. They are actively trying to flatten my personality into something easy to monetize.

                                    As most people I've seen say out loud, "Privacy as a concept is way beyond hiding secrets. A part of it also means preserving your capacity to change. To be surprised. To be inconsistent."

                                    If I could tell every human one thing, it would be to actively refuse to be a predictable data point. Mess up their metrics. In whatever way you are capable of.

                                    #socialmedia #algorithmicbias #privacy #dataprivacy #quotes #foss #facebook #linkedin #llm #noai #enshittification #reading #books #baking #art #philosophy #adhd #depression #cybersecurity

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                                    @pheonix @uep not sure if you've seen this, but a few ideas on how to unflatten yourself

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                                    Pluralistic: Become unoptimizable (20 Aug 2025) โ€“ Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow

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                                      @pheonix @uep not sure if you've seen this, but a few ideas on how to unflatten yourself

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                                      Pluralistic: Become unoptimizable (20 Aug 2025) โ€“ Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow

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                                      @craignicol @uep I hadn't so thanks for sharing, @pluralistic is usually spot on!

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                                      • Arthur P. DentS Arthur P. Dent

                                        @pheonix Well said. As some others have already stated: youโ€™ve put words to a thought Iโ€™ve had flitting at the edge of my consciousness but couldnโ€™t express. ๐Ÿ˜

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                                        @Saket I appreciate you

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                                        • BeldarakB Beldarak

                                          @pheonix
                                          And also the classical, "I see you bought a hair dryer, you probably need ten more right? I'll show you some all month"

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                                          @Beldarak that last example reallllly confuses me. You bought X once, so you must need 10 more of it! Who thought of this?

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