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  • Cory DoctorowP Cory Doctorow

    #10yrsago Stop paying your student loans and debt collectors can send US Marshals to arrest you https://web.archive.org/web/20201026202024/https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2016/02/us-marshals-forcibly-collecting-student-debt.html?mid=twitter-share-di

    #5yrsago Reverse centaurs and the failure of AI https://pluralistic.net/2021/02/17/reverse-centaur/#reverse-centaur

    #1yrago Business school professors trained an AI to judge workers' personalities based on their faces https://pluralistic.net/2025/02/17/caliper-ai/#racism-machine

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    Yesterday's threads: The online community trilemma; and more!

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      Yesterday's threads: The online community trilemma; and more!

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      My latest novel is "Picks and Shovels," a historical technothriller set in the Weird Era of the PC, about Ponzi schemes, techbros, and the dawn of enshittification:

      Just a moment...

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      • Cory DoctorowP Cory Doctorow

        My latest novel is "Picks and Shovels," a historical technothriller set in the Weird Era of the PC, about Ponzi schemes, techbros, and the dawn of enshittification:

        Just a moment...

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        My latest nonfiction book is the internationally bestselling "Enshittification: Why Everything Suddenly Got Worse and What to Do About It," from MCD/Farrar, Straus and Giroux:

        Just a moment...

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        My ebooks and audiobooks (from FSGxMCD, Tor Books, Head of Zeus, McSweeneys, Beacon, Verso and others) are for sale all over the net, but I sell 'em too, and when you buy 'em from me, I earn twice as much and you get books with no DRM and no license "agreements."

        https://craphound.com/shop/

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        • Cory DoctorowP Cory Doctorow

          My ebooks and audiobooks (from FSGxMCD, Tor Books, Head of Zeus, McSweeneys, Beacon, Verso and others) are for sale all over the net, but I sell 'em too, and when you buy 'em from me, I earn twice as much and you get books with no DRM and no license "agreements."

          https://craphound.com/shop/

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          Upcoming appearances:

          * #SaltLakeCity: Enshittification at the Utah Museum of Fine Arts (Tanner Humanities Center), Feb 18
          https://tanner.utah.edu/center-events/cory-doctorow/

          * #Montreal (remote): Fedimtl, Feb 24
          https://fedimtl.ca/

          * #Oslo (remote): Seminar og lansering av rapport om «enshittification»
          https://www.forbrukerradet.no/siste-nytt/digital/seminar-og-lansering-av-rapport-om-enshittification/

          * #Victoria: 28th Annual Victoria International Privacy & Security Summit, Mar 3-5
          https://www.rebootcommunications.com/event/vipss2026/

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          • Cory DoctorowP Cory Doctorow

            Upcoming appearances:

            * #SaltLakeCity: Enshittification at the Utah Museum of Fine Arts (Tanner Humanities Center), Feb 18
            https://tanner.utah.edu/center-events/cory-doctorow/

            * #Montreal (remote): Fedimtl, Feb 24
            https://fedimtl.ca/

            * #Oslo (remote): Seminar og lansering av rapport om «enshittification»
            https://www.forbrukerradet.no/siste-nytt/digital/seminar-og-lansering-av-rapport-om-enshittification/

            * #Victoria: 28th Annual Victoria International Privacy & Security Summit, Mar 3-5
            https://www.rebootcommunications.com/event/vipss2026/

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            Upcoming appearances (cont'd):

            * #Victoria: Enshittification at Russell Books, Mar 4
            https://www.eventbrite.ca/e/cory-doctorow-is-coming-to-victoria-tickets-1982091125914

            * #Barcelona: Enshittification with Simona Levi/Xnet (Llibreria Finestres), Mar 20
            https://www.llibreriafinestres.com/evento/cory-doctorow/

            * #Berkeley: Bioneers keynote, Mar 27
            https://conference.bioneers.org/

            * #Berlin: Re:publica, May 18-20
            https://re-publica.com/de/news/rp26-sprecher-cory-doctorow

            * #Berlin: Enshittification at Otherland Books, May 19
            https://www.otherland-berlin.de/de/event-details/cory-doctorow.html

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            • Cory DoctorowP Cory Doctorow

              Upcoming appearances (cont'd):

              * #Victoria: Enshittification at Russell Books, Mar 4
              https://www.eventbrite.ca/e/cory-doctorow-is-coming-to-victoria-tickets-1982091125914

              * #Barcelona: Enshittification with Simona Levi/Xnet (Llibreria Finestres), Mar 20
              https://www.llibreriafinestres.com/evento/cory-doctorow/

              * #Berkeley: Bioneers keynote, Mar 27
              https://conference.bioneers.org/

              * #Berlin: Re:publica, May 18-20
              https://re-publica.com/de/news/rp26-sprecher-cory-doctorow

              * #Berlin: Enshittification at Otherland Books, May 19
              https://www.otherland-berlin.de/de/event-details/cory-doctorow.html

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              Upcoming appearances (cont'd):

              * #HayOnWye: HowTheLightGetsIn, May 22-25
              https://howthelightgetsin.org/festivals/hay/big-ideas-2

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                Upcoming appearances (cont'd):

                * #HayOnWye: HowTheLightGetsIn, May 22-25
                https://howthelightgetsin.org/festivals/hay/big-ideas-2

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                Recent appearances:

                * Panopticon :3 (Trashfuture)
                https://www.patreon.com/posts/panopticon-3-150395435

                * America's Enshittification is Canada's Opportunity (Do Not Pass Go)
                https://www.donotpassgo.ca/p/americas-enshittification-is-canadas

                * Everything Wrong With the Internet and How to Fix It, with Tim Wu (Ezra Klein)
                https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/06/opinion/ezra-klein-podcast-doctorow-wu.html

                * How the Internet Got Worse (Masters in Business)
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auXlkuVhxMo

                * Enshittification (Jon Favreau/Offline):
                https://crooked.com/podcast/the-enshittification-of-the-internet-with-cory-doctorow/

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                • Cory DoctorowP Cory Doctorow

                  Recent appearances:

                  * Panopticon :3 (Trashfuture)
                  https://www.patreon.com/posts/panopticon-3-150395435

                  * America's Enshittification is Canada's Opportunity (Do Not Pass Go)
                  https://www.donotpassgo.ca/p/americas-enshittification-is-canadas

                  * Everything Wrong With the Internet and How to Fix It, with Tim Wu (Ezra Klein)
                  https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/06/opinion/ezra-klein-podcast-doctorow-wu.html

                  * How the Internet Got Worse (Masters in Business)
                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auXlkuVhxMo

                  * Enshittification (Jon Favreau/Offline):
                  https://crooked.com/podcast/the-enshittification-of-the-internet-with-cory-doctorow/

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                  Here's today's edition: https://pluralistic.net/2026/02/17/no-piecework/

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                  • Cory DoctorowP Cory Doctorow

                    Today's threads (a thread)

                    Inside: What's a "gig work minimum wage"; and more!

                    Archived at: https://pluralistic.net/2026/02/17/no-piecework/

                    #Pluralistic

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                    I also like the idea of requiring young adults to do paid service jobs for a year--kind of like Peace Corps but expanded to include caregiver and the kind of social jobs that are now done by volunteers.

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                    • Cory DoctorowP Cory Doctorow

                      Today's threads (a thread)

                      Inside: What's a "gig work minimum wage"; and more!

                      Archived at: https://pluralistic.net/2026/02/17/no-piecework/

                      #Pluralistic

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                      @pluralistic

                      The people who kept Uber, & other gig economy startups alive for a decade, The Epstein Class ...

                      ... they really want unpaid work i.e. slavery

                      Imagine a job like receptionist, where the person only actually gets paid when there's clients to deal with or a phone call to answer

                      The between-times, waiting for a call or for clients to arrive wouldn’t be paid

                      Required to be sitting in an office on a slow day, but unpaid

                      This rip-off is called "simplifying a business model" ...

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                        @pluralistic

                        The people who kept Uber, & other gig economy startups alive for a decade, The Epstein Class ...

                        ... they really want unpaid work i.e. slavery

                        Imagine a job like receptionist, where the person only actually gets paid when there's clients to deal with or a phone call to answer

                        The between-times, waiting for a call or for clients to arrive wouldn’t be paid

                        Required to be sitting in an office on a slow day, but unpaid

                        This rip-off is called "simplifying a business model" ...

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                        ... but what it really is ... is slavery.

                        Koch Network is vehemently opposed to the concept of a minimum wage because they are white supremacists.
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                        The Koch Brothers Are Waging War Against the Poor

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                          ... but what it really is ... is slavery.

                          Koch Network is vehemently opposed to the concept of a minimum wage because they are white supremacists.
                          https://www.zinnedproject.org/if-we-knew-our-history/koch-brothers-want-students-learn-slavery/

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                          Taking wage policy advice from Charles Koch is like taking advice on how to run a neighborhood watch program from George Zimmerman.

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                          Mayer’s book will long survive as a compendium of guilty men.

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                          "Kochonomics" is really white supremacy in drag.

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                            Today's threads (a thread)

                            Inside: What's a "gig work minimum wage"; and more!

                            Archived at: https://pluralistic.net/2026/02/17/no-piecework/

                            #Pluralistic

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                            @pluralistic

                            Adore this definition of economics:

                            "... neoclassical economist (someone who has experienced a specific form of neurological injury that makes you incapable of perceiving or reasoning about power)"

                            It's like doing statistical analysis without examination of bias.

                            Republican administrations suppress wage growth
                            https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/13/business/economy/middle-class-pay.html

                            Women's wage suppression
                            If women counted : worth and value in the global economy 
                            Marilyn Waring; introduction by Gloria Steinem

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                              @pluralistic

                              Adore this definition of economics:

                              "... neoclassical economist (someone who has experienced a specific form of neurological injury that makes you incapable of perceiving or reasoning about power)"

                              It's like doing statistical analysis without examination of bias.

                              Republican administrations suppress wage growth
                              https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/13/business/economy/middle-class-pay.html

                              Women's wage suppression
                              If women counted : worth and value in the global economy 
                              Marilyn Waring; introduction by Gloria Steinem

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                              Immigration has accounted for almost half of U.S. labor force growth since 1995. Slower labor force growth would negatively impact employment and GDP growth.

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                              • Cory DoctorowP Cory Doctorow

                                Today's threads (a thread)

                                Inside: What's a "gig work minimum wage"; and more!

                                Archived at: https://pluralistic.net/2026/02/17/no-piecework/

                                #Pluralistic

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                                @pluralistic

                                As I mentioned in my own blog on the subject of work: I recall a conversation here on Mastodon where one person said that everyone needs employment. Another responded that no, everyone needs food, clothing, shelter, and health care. We just happen to have a society where in order to get these things, you (normally) need to be employed in a job.

                                Just a moment...

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                                  What's a "gig work minimum wage": The important rate is what you're paid when you're waiting for a job.

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                                  Attached: 1 image "Minimum wage" is one of those odd concepts that *seems* to have an intuitive definition, but the harder you think about it, the more complicated it gets. For example, if you want to work, but can't find a job, then the minimum wage you'll get is zero: https://web.archive.org/web/20200625043843/https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/books/story/2020-06-24/forget-ubi-says-an-economist-its-time-for-universal-basic-jobs -- If you'd like an essay-formatted version of this thread to read or share, here's a link to it on pluralistic.net, my surveillance-free, ad-free, tracker-free blog: https://pluralistic.net/2026/02/17/no-piecework/#no-justice 1/

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                                  Fun fact: This kind of stuff has a long history. For instance, in the Harz Mountains of Germany, miners were only paid for the time they were working within the tunnels, but not for the time they needed to get down to their designated tunnel.

                                  This was a problem, since for the deepest mine - such as the Samson Pit in Sankt Andreasberg, which had a depth of 800 meters - it could take one hour to get down and two hours to get back to the surface.

                                  Eventually, a technical solution was developed - the "Fahrkunst" or "Man Engine", which cut down the time to 20 minutes in each direction. You owe it to yourself to read up on it - it's one of the more unhinged modes of transportation out there.

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