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  • Cory DoctorowP Cory Doctorow

    Upcoming appearances:

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    Upcoming appearances (cont'd):

    * #Victoria: Enshittification at Russell Books, Mar 4
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    https://conference.bioneers.org/

    * #Berlin: Re:publica, May 18-20
    https://re-publica.com/de/news/rp26-sprecher-cory-doctorow

    * #Berlin: Enshittification at Otherland Books, May 19
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    • Cory DoctorowP Cory Doctorow

      Upcoming appearances (cont'd):

      * #Victoria: Enshittification at Russell Books, Mar 4
      https://www.eventbrite.ca/e/cory-doctorow-is-coming-to-victoria-tickets-1982091125914

      * #Barcelona: Enshittification with Simona Levi/Xnet (Llibreria Finestres), Mar 20
      https://www.llibreriafinestres.com/evento/cory-doctorow/

      * #Berkeley: Bioneers keynote, Mar 27
      https://conference.bioneers.org/

      * #Berlin: Re:publica, May 18-20
      https://re-publica.com/de/news/rp26-sprecher-cory-doctorow

      * #Berlin: Enshittification at Otherland Books, May 19
      https://www.otherland-berlin.de/de/event-details/cory-doctorow.html

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      Upcoming appearances (cont'd):

      * #HayOnWye: HowTheLightGetsIn, May 22-25
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      • Cory DoctorowP Cory Doctorow

        Upcoming appearances (cont'd):

        * #HayOnWye: HowTheLightGetsIn, May 22-25
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        Recent appearances:

        * Panopticon :3 (Trashfuture)
        https://www.patreon.com/posts/panopticon-3-150395435

        * America's Enshittification is Canada's Opportunity (Do Not Pass Go)
        https://www.donotpassgo.ca/p/americas-enshittification-is-canadas

        * Everything Wrong With the Internet and How to Fix It, with Tim Wu (Ezra Klein)
        https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/06/opinion/ezra-klein-podcast-doctorow-wu.html

        * How the Internet Got Worse (Masters in Business)
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auXlkuVhxMo

        * Enshittification (Jon Favreau/Offline):
        https://crooked.com/podcast/the-enshittification-of-the-internet-with-cory-doctorow/

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        • Cory DoctorowP Cory Doctorow

          Recent appearances:

          * Panopticon :3 (Trashfuture)
          https://www.patreon.com/posts/panopticon-3-150395435

          * America's Enshittification is Canada's Opportunity (Do Not Pass Go)
          https://www.donotpassgo.ca/p/americas-enshittification-is-canadas

          * Everything Wrong With the Internet and How to Fix It, with Tim Wu (Ezra Klein)
          https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/06/opinion/ezra-klein-podcast-doctorow-wu.html

          * How the Internet Got Worse (Masters in Business)
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auXlkuVhxMo

          * Enshittification (Jon Favreau/Offline):
          https://crooked.com/podcast/the-enshittification-of-the-internet-with-cory-doctorow/

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          • Cory DoctorowP Cory Doctorow

            Today's threads (a thread)

            Inside: What's a "gig work minimum wage"; and more!

            Archived at: https://pluralistic.net/2026/02/17/no-piecework/

            #Pluralistic

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            I also like the idea of requiring young adults to do paid service jobs for a year--kind of like Peace Corps but expanded to include caregiver and the kind of social jobs that are now done by volunteers.

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            • Cory DoctorowP Cory Doctorow

              Today's threads (a thread)

              Inside: What's a "gig work minimum wage"; and more!

              Archived at: https://pluralistic.net/2026/02/17/no-piecework/

              #Pluralistic

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              @pluralistic

              The people who kept Uber, & other gig economy startups alive for a decade, The Epstein Class ...

              ... they really want unpaid work i.e. slavery

              Imagine a job like receptionist, where the person only actually gets paid when there's clients to deal with or a phone call to answer

              The between-times, waiting for a call or for clients to arrive wouldn’t be paid

              Required to be sitting in an office on a slow day, but unpaid

              This rip-off is called "simplifying a business model" ...

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                @pluralistic

                The people who kept Uber, & other gig economy startups alive for a decade, The Epstein Class ...

                ... they really want unpaid work i.e. slavery

                Imagine a job like receptionist, where the person only actually gets paid when there's clients to deal with or a phone call to answer

                The between-times, waiting for a call or for clients to arrive wouldn’t be paid

                Required to be sitting in an office on a slow day, but unpaid

                This rip-off is called "simplifying a business model" ...

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                ... but what it really is ... is slavery.

                Koch Network is vehemently opposed to the concept of a minimum wage because they are white supremacists.
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                The Koch Brothers Are Waging War Against the Poor

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                  ... but what it really is ... is slavery.

                  Koch Network is vehemently opposed to the concept of a minimum wage because they are white supremacists.
                  https://www.zinnedproject.org/if-we-knew-our-history/koch-brothers-want-students-learn-slavery/

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                  The Koch Brothers Commissioned a Survey of Americans and Found Most Like a $15 Minimum Wage, Free College, and Universal Health Care

                  Where the Koch brothers see government tyranny, most Americans see common-sense solutions to basic problems, it turns out.

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                  The Kochs have always believed that rich people had the right to rule over everyone else, democracy be damned

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                  The Koch Brothers Are Waging War Against the Poor

                  Taking wage policy advice from Charles Koch is like taking advice on how to run a neighborhood watch program from George Zimmerman.

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                  Anti-union Effort in Kentucky Is Ripped Straight from the Koch Playbook

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                  They are desperately trying to bring back every aspect of the economy of the Antebellum South of 1850, including disenfranchising women, POC, immigrants.

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                  Mayer’s book will long survive as a compendium of guilty men.

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                  "Kochonomics" is really white supremacy in drag.

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                  Minimum wage arguments and the Henry Ford model - MinnPost

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                  • Cory DoctorowP Cory Doctorow

                    Today's threads (a thread)

                    Inside: What's a "gig work minimum wage"; and more!

                    Archived at: https://pluralistic.net/2026/02/17/no-piecework/

                    #Pluralistic

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                    @pluralistic

                    Adore this definition of economics:

                    "... neoclassical economist (someone who has experienced a specific form of neurological injury that makes you incapable of perceiving or reasoning about power)"

                    It's like doing statistical analysis without examination of bias.

                    Republican administrations suppress wage growth
                    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/13/business/economy/middle-class-pay.html

                    Women's wage suppression
                    If women counted : worth and value in the global economy 
                    Marilyn Waring; introduction by Gloria Steinem

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                      @pluralistic

                      Adore this definition of economics:

                      "... neoclassical economist (someone who has experienced a specific form of neurological injury that makes you incapable of perceiving or reasoning about power)"

                      It's like doing statistical analysis without examination of bias.

                      Republican administrations suppress wage growth
                      https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/13/business/economy/middle-class-pay.html

                      Women's wage suppression
                      If women counted : worth and value in the global economy 
                      Marilyn Waring; introduction by Gloria Steinem

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                      • Cory DoctorowP Cory Doctorow

                        Today's threads (a thread)

                        Inside: What's a "gig work minimum wage"; and more!

                        Archived at: https://pluralistic.net/2026/02/17/no-piecework/

                        #Pluralistic

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                        @pluralistic

                        As I mentioned in my own blog on the subject of work: I recall a conversation here on Mastodon where one person said that everyone needs employment. Another responded that no, everyone needs food, clothing, shelter, and health care. We just happen to have a society where in order to get these things, you (normally) need to be employed in a job.

                        Just a moment...

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                        • Cory DoctorowP Cory Doctorow

                          What's a "gig work minimum wage": The important rate is what you're paid when you're waiting for a job.

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                          Attached: 1 image "Minimum wage" is one of those odd concepts that *seems* to have an intuitive definition, but the harder you think about it, the more complicated it gets. For example, if you want to work, but can't find a job, then the minimum wage you'll get is zero: https://web.archive.org/web/20200625043843/https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/books/story/2020-06-24/forget-ubi-says-an-economist-its-time-for-universal-basic-jobs -- If you'd like an essay-formatted version of this thread to read or share, here's a link to it on pluralistic.net, my surveillance-free, ad-free, tracker-free blog: https://pluralistic.net/2026/02/17/no-piecework/#no-justice 1/

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                          @pluralistic

                          Fun fact: This kind of stuff has a long history. For instance, in the Harz Mountains of Germany, miners were only paid for the time they were working within the tunnels, but not for the time they needed to get down to their designated tunnel.

                          This was a problem, since for the deepest mine - such as the Samson Pit in Sankt Andreasberg, which had a depth of 800 meters - it could take one hour to get down and two hours to get back to the surface.

                          Eventually, a technical solution was developed - the "Fahrkunst" or "Man Engine", which cut down the time to 20 minutes in each direction. You owe it to yourself to read up on it - it's one of the more unhinged modes of transportation out there.

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