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I am losing it at how many of my peers have forgotten what software engineering is.

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  • NymnympseudonymN Nymnympseudonym

    @BlackIkeEagle @bert_hubert all joking aside, most large software companies now have automation pipelines that do exactly that: take a Bug off the queue, propose a fix, compile, run unit tests, run regression suites, review and comment the implementation, write up the fix make the patch ready for review.

    Sure they only cleanly fix a fraction of the bugs. But that fraction is increasing.

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    @Nymnympseudonymm @BlackIkeEagle @bert_hubert Are the bugs that trivial? The kind I run into are "router drops packets every 55 seconds when packets per second exceeds 900"

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      @Nymnympseudonymm @BlackIkeEagle @bert_hubert Are the bugs that trivial? The kind I run into are "router drops packets every 55 seconds when packets per second exceeds 900"

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      @StumpyTheMutt @BlackIkeEagle @bert_hubert typical example: program dumps core under crazy ass stress coverage test

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      • Stumpy The MuttS Stumpy The Mutt

        @Nymnympseudonymm @BlackIkeEagle @bert_hubert Are the bugs that trivial? The kind I run into are "router drops packets every 55 seconds when packets per second exceeds 900"

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        @StumpyTheMutt @BlackIkeEagle @bert_hubert and whether your packet drops can be repro'd, what skills you have written up, how good your design docs are

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        • bert hubert 🇺🇦🇪🇺🇺🇦B bert hubert 🇺🇦🇪🇺🇺🇦

          I am losing it at how many of my peers have forgotten what software engineering is. It is not typing in lines of code.

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          @bert_hubert Software engineering maybe isn't LOC, but it does require knowing vaguely what's happening in a program you claim you wrote.

          I'll stick to writing lines of code.

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          • bert hubert 🇺🇦🇪🇺🇺🇦B bert hubert 🇺🇦🇪🇺🇺🇦

            I am losing it at how many of my peers have forgotten what software engineering is. It is not typing in lines of code.

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            @bert_hubert not directly related but this reminds me of the time a client got mad that i deleted some code in the process of refactoring because "they paid for that code"

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            • andrybakA andrybak

              @bert_hubert that's right, it is actually mostly typing in Slack and MS Teams messages /joke

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              @andrybak @bert_hubert Lets not forget digging through jira for hours going "oh wait, heres a related... oh fuck this even worse than I thought" over and over again

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              • bert hubert 🇺🇦🇪🇺🇺🇦B bert hubert 🇺🇦🇪🇺🇺🇦

                I am losing it at how many of my peers have forgotten what software engineering is. It is not typing in lines of code.

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                @bert_hubert

                Of course not, that's for the olds. It has something to do with vibing.
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                • bert hubert 🇺🇦🇪🇺🇺🇦B bert hubert 🇺🇦🇪🇺🇺🇦

                  I am losing it at how many of my peers have forgotten what software engineering is. It is not typing in lines of code.

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                  @bert_hubert Pfft no. It's Jira. <runs>

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                  • NymnympseudonymN Nymnympseudonym

                    @StumpyTheMutt @BlackIkeEagle @bert_hubert and whether your packet drops can be repro'd, what skills you have written up, how good your design docs are

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                    @Nymnympseudonymm @StumpyTheMutt @BlackIkeEagle @bert_hubert I dare say that a lot of the investigation has been done to identify the behavioral problem by the time you get to this point. I think this work effort is where much over hyped automation fails.

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                    • AnthonyA Anthony
                      @bert_hubert@eupolicy.social This really makes me wonder whether the decades of constant blog posts about method, such as software craftsmanship, *-driven design, agile, extreme programming, etc etc etc (event sourcing, the hexagonal architecture, etc etc etc etc etc dear lord there are so many), were all, ultimately, not serious. If a single technological advance coupled with hype and corporate pressure is enough to convince people to throw all of that out, how serious could it have been, really?
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                      @abucci @bert_hubert the people that researched and authored said blogs were very serious. Sadly many of those paying said authors to do the work that prompted the articles weren’t equally serious.

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