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On adapting Keep on the Borderlands and the case for never running games as written #ttrpg https://tasker.land/2026/02/17/the-borderlands-unsettled/

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  • Moreau VazhT Moreau Vazh

    @Printdevil I used to play with a guy who used to wander around without shoes or socks and he'd often ask to borrow a pencil and then spend the entire game rubbing it between his toes.

    Kera VortiwifeV This user is from outside of this forum
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    @Taskerland @Printdevil SERIAL KILLER BEHAVIOR

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    • CharnockP Charnock

      @Taskerland Leaving you bundles more money to spend on old paperstock on ebay to print props on.

      I find it odd that there was ever a movement away from reskinning or kitbashing your own games. When we played in the 1980s that was de rigeur. It would have been unthinkable (outside of the btb D&D peeps) to play RPGs any other way.

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      @Printdevil @Taskerland I think it's the most perplexing thing I found when I wandered back into paying attention to The Hobby in the last while.

      "Wait, you guys aren't just fiddling with everything to suit yourselves and your own table? When did that start?"

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      • Colman ReillyC Colman Reilly

        @Printdevil @Taskerland I think it's the most perplexing thing I found when I wandered back into paying attention to The Hobby in the last while.

        "Wait, you guys aren't just fiddling with everything to suit yourselves and your own table? When did that start?"

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        @Colman Yes, I took that break (from gaming society) and when I got back, it was like Stepford Gaming. There was a strong almost paternalistic influence emanating out of the local pathfinder crowd that there was a "proper way" to game.

        And people just seemed to latch onto it for acceptance/easier life.

        @Taskerland

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        • Kera VortiwifeV Kera Vortiwife

          @Taskerland @Printdevil SERIAL KILLER BEHAVIOR

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          @vortiwife @Taskerland @Printdevil naw babe that guy was autistic af. That was a stim, he was stimming.

          I could go for a nice smooth Dixon Ticonderoga #2 between my toes right now, sounds heavenly. πŸ˜„

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          • AlatheaP Alathea

            @vortiwife @Taskerland @Printdevil naw babe that guy was autistic af. That was a stim, he was stimming.

            I could go for a nice smooth Dixon Ticonderoga #2 between my toes right now, sounds heavenly. πŸ˜„

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            @Poljack @Taskerland @Printdevil a guy can be autistic and also a serial killer???? People can be more than one thing

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            • Kera VortiwifeV Kera Vortiwife

              @Poljack @Taskerland @Printdevil a guy can be autistic and also a serial killer???? People can be more than one thing

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              I can't.

              Luckily my one thing is "lovely"

              @vortiwife @Poljack @Taskerland

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              • Moreau VazhT Moreau Vazh

                On adapting Keep on the Borderlands and the case for never running games as written #ttrpg
                https://tasker.land/2026/02/17/the-borderlands-unsettled/

                Blind MapmakerB This user is from outside of this forum
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                @Taskerland Very interesting thoughts on working with colonialist narratives. I would like to say more, but now I am pressed for time due to reading your likewise excellent linked articles. Kudos!

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                • Moreau VazhT Moreau Vazh

                  On adapting Keep on the Borderlands and the case for never running games as written #ttrpg
                  https://tasker.land/2026/02/17/the-borderlands-unsettled/

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                  @Taskerland "When it eventually became clear that a top-down imposition of narrative control tended to result in brittle, stultifying adventures that were more likely to produce arguments than their intended outcomes, the English-language hobby drifted away from railroading and blamed GMs for acting like auteurs despite the fact that the β€˜vision’ these auteurs had been implementing had come chiefly from the game designers themselves."

                  I think both sides contributed. I've tried to understand why I was fixated on canonical accuracy in settings, for instance, and I was not alone in this.

                  I've thought it might be some sort of existential anxiety, which was soothed by the idea of a fictional world that I understood thoroughly, described as if it had a real independent existence.

                  The way Keep on the Borderlands depends upon unspoken assumptions about colonialism and frontiers must have contributed to this, and it was when those assumptions were spoken that the spell was broken.

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                    @Taskerland "When it eventually became clear that a top-down imposition of narrative control tended to result in brittle, stultifying adventures that were more likely to produce arguments than their intended outcomes, the English-language hobby drifted away from railroading and blamed GMs for acting like auteurs despite the fact that the β€˜vision’ these auteurs had been implementing had come chiefly from the game designers themselves."

                    I think both sides contributed. I've tried to understand why I was fixated on canonical accuracy in settings, for instance, and I was not alone in this.

                    I've thought it might be some sort of existential anxiety, which was soothed by the idea of a fictional world that I understood thoroughly, described as if it had a real independent existence.

                    The way Keep on the Borderlands depends upon unspoken assumptions about colonialism and frontiers must have contributed to this, and it was when those assumptions were spoken that the spell was broken.

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                    @foolishowl I think you are right that there is something soothing about the mastery of a world at a time when the real world seems insane. Tolkien wrote about this.

                    Where we differ is that I think that people were encouraged to take up certain pleasures by the industry. They still are.

                    Ttrpg books have always been presented as things that are subject to mastery rather than creation. GURPS being the great exception.

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                    • Moreau VazhT Moreau Vazh

                      @foolishowl I think you are right that there is something soothing about the mastery of a world at a time when the real world seems insane. Tolkien wrote about this.

                      Where we differ is that I think that people were encouraged to take up certain pleasures by the industry. They still are.

                      Ttrpg books have always been presented as things that are subject to mastery rather than creation. GURPS being the great exception.

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                      @Taskerland Oh, I don't dispute that. There were were several contributing factors to a feedback loop, and I think it's taken time for game designers to articulate the assumptions they'd assumed were obvious.

                      People joke about the obligatory "What is a role-playing game?" essay, but there's a history to that.

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                      • Moreau VazhT Moreau Vazh

                        On adapting Keep on the Borderlands and the case for never running games as written #ttrpg
                        https://tasker.land/2026/02/17/the-borderlands-unsettled/

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                        @Taskerland this was a great read. Your game sounds so interesting and different from anything I've ever played.

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                        • CobbC Cobb

                          @Taskerland this was a great read. Your game sounds so interesting and different from anything I've ever played.

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                          @cobb Thank you 😊 I don't run particularly fancy mechanics but I am big on consequences and people really feeling the weight of their decisions.

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