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  3. Saying that you do not want GenAI in the #books you read, the things you watch or the games you play is an understandable and NORMAL position.

Saying that you do not want GenAI in the #books you read, the things you watch or the games you play is an understandable and NORMAL position.

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  • Ada :v_trans: :v_pan:​I Ada :v_trans: :v_pan:​

    @berniethewordsmith might be good to include that you're talking about (american, big-tech) LLMs

    We've used various forms of ML&AI for decades, everything from video-games to produce logistics and vaccine research. It's a group of technologies not singular thing (LLMs is not the whole group!)

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    @iamada Yes, I am referring specifically to this kind of Generative AI that is trying to be shoehorned everywhere. Alien Isolation is a good example of an AI in a videogame that is absolutely incredible. AI slop is not

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    • Madeleine MorrisR Madeleine Morris

      @berniethewordsmith Thank you for this outstanding thread. You've said everything I have wanted to say, but much more eloquently.

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      @Remittancegirl Yw!

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      • Ada :v_trans: :v_pan:​I Ada :v_trans: :v_pan:​

        @berniethewordsmith might be good to include that you're talking about (american, big-tech) LLMs

        We've used various forms of ML&AI for decades, everything from video-games to produce logistics and vaccine research. It's a group of technologies not singular thing (LLMs is not the whole group!)

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        @iamada
        Machine Learning has been around for a while and is proven technology. Indeed not to be mistaken for LLM's.
        @berniethewordsmith

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        • Frank HeijkampA Frank Heijkamp

          @berniethewordsmith I am more worried about the absolute mediocre output of ai. For some it might be 'good enough' and that is ok. Please do understand that for most of us 'good enough' is just below our standards. Don't let an ai that is 'good enough' drive your car or have an ai that is 'good enough' do your finances. Accidents will happen and those accidents will be very costly.

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          @alterelefant I also worry about this. There is certainly an effort to convince people to settle with "just ok" stuff

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            @iamada
            Machine Learning has been around for a while and is proven technology. Indeed not to be mistaken for LLM's.
            @berniethewordsmith

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            @alterelefant @iamada Yeah, I'm definitely referring to this LLM in the soup nightmare we are currently in

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            • Bernie the WordsmithB Bernie the Wordsmith

              @alterelefant @iamada Yeah, I'm definitely referring to this LLM in the soup nightmare we are currently in

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              @berniethewordsmith
              The output of an LLM has to be thoroughly checked by a subject matter expert. Failing to do so will make things go south very quickly.
              @iamada

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              • Bernie the WordsmithB Bernie the Wordsmith

                @alterelefant I also worry about this. There is certainly an effort to convince people to settle with "just ok" stuff

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                @berniethewordsmith That 'just ok' might work for certain cases and people also need to respect that it just doesn't work in other cases.

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                • Frank HeijkampA Frank Heijkamp

                  @berniethewordsmith
                  The output of an LLM has to be thoroughly checked by a subject matter expert. Failing to do so will make things go south very quickly.
                  @iamada

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                  @iamada @alterelefant @berniethewordsmith which renders it useless. In fact worse than useless as time and effort of specialists is diverted from more useful work.

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                    @iamada @alterelefant @berniethewordsmith which renders it useless. In fact worse than useless as time and effort of specialists is diverted from more useful work.

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                    @seb321
                    In some cases it might save a couple of minutes here and there but it is definitely not the revolution they try to make us believe it is. At least if you value the quality and correctness of your work.
                    @iamada @berniethewordsmith

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                    • SebS Seb

                      @iamada @alterelefant @berniethewordsmith which renders it useless. In fact worse than useless as time and effort of specialists is diverted from more useful work.

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                      @alterelefant @berniethewordsmith @iamada it reminds me of the scene in Blade Runner where Tyrell explains to Roy how his life is inhibited and any way around the inhibitor leads back to the same result. Any argument for how a flawed LLM can be used by human intervention renders the function obsolete.

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