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  • winden^capsule^batman.groupW winden^capsule^batman.group

    @cstross is that 12 mile exclusion zone the same they added in the 28 days later sequel??

    David SP This user is from outside of this forum
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    David S
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    #8

    @winden @cstross

    Or a wall like in the book Invitro Lottery (about a global pandemic, a fascist government, and the phrase "Make Britain Great Again") written in <checks notes> 2014

    No, ReformLtd, it's not supposed to be an instruction manual.

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    • DaveD Dave

      @cstross

      Express: We want Brexit!

      Also Express: No, not like that!

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      @davetansley @cstross

      Remind me again who supposedly got Brexit done with an oven ready deal?

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      • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

        Today's headlines in the Daily Express!

        The "Give Us a Proper Brexit" crusade calls for leaving the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR), slashing red tape for businesses and enforcing a 12-mile exclusion zone around the UK for British vessels only.

        Brexit is a utopian revolutionary project, and like all URPs it can never be achieved! Juche Britannia! Consign Earth to the Dustbin of History! The People Struggle for Brexit! &c.

        Revolutions are *hungry*.

        Martin Vermeer FCDM This user is from outside of this forum
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        #10

        @cstross Damn. If only Britain had a prime minister with communication skills πŸ™„

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        • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

          Today's headlines in the Daily Express!

          The "Give Us a Proper Brexit" crusade calls for leaving the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR), slashing red tape for businesses and enforcing a 12-mile exclusion zone around the UK for British vessels only.

          Brexit is a utopian revolutionary project, and like all URPs it can never be achieved! Juche Britannia! Consign Earth to the Dustbin of History! The People Struggle for Brexit! &c.

          Revolutions are *hungry*.

          FediThing πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆF This user is from outside of this forum
          FediThing πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆF This user is from outside of this forum
          FediThing πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ
          wrote last edited by
          #11

          @cstross

          What are they going to blame after leaving the ECHR? Are they going to scapegoat a minority and say that Brexit now requires "removing" that minority?

          The ECHR is the only thing giving people in the UK any human rights. If the UK leaves it, then there would no longer be any human rights in Britain. All there would be are assorted laws that parliament would be totally free to revoke and replace with whatever they want, including 1930s-style stuff.

          The lack of a written constitution or powerful second chamber in the UK combined with fascists leading the polls is putting Britain in an incredibly dangerous situation.

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          • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

            Today's headlines in the Daily Express!

            The "Give Us a Proper Brexit" crusade calls for leaving the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR), slashing red tape for businesses and enforcing a 12-mile exclusion zone around the UK for British vessels only.

            Brexit is a utopian revolutionary project, and like all URPs it can never be achieved! Juche Britannia! Consign Earth to the Dustbin of History! The People Struggle for Brexit! &c.

            Revolutions are *hungry*.

            Mark DennehyM This user is from outside of this forum
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            Mark Dennehy
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            #12

            @cstross Minimum distance* from the UK to Ireland is 1.3km (about .85 miles) between Magilligan point and Greencastle, so are they proposing to annex Donegal as part of Brexit now?
            Because Donegal is in the EU and the EU is less of a fan than you'd think of people annexing its territory.

            *Minimum distance by sea, obviously. Minimum distance by land is zero.

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            • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

              Today's headlines in the Daily Express!

              The "Give Us a Proper Brexit" crusade calls for leaving the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR), slashing red tape for businesses and enforcing a 12-mile exclusion zone around the UK for British vessels only.

              Brexit is a utopian revolutionary project, and like all URPs it can never be achieved! Juche Britannia! Consign Earth to the Dustbin of History! The People Struggle for Brexit! &c.

              Revolutions are *hungry*.

              πŸ” Matthias WiesmannT This user is from outside of this forum
              πŸ” Matthias WiesmannT This user is from outside of this forum
              πŸ” Matthias Wiesmann
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              #13

              @cstross Yay! Let's breach Article 38 of the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea and jam the channel, what could possibly go wrong?

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              • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                Today's headlines in the Daily Express!

                The "Give Us a Proper Brexit" crusade calls for leaving the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR), slashing red tape for businesses and enforcing a 12-mile exclusion zone around the UK for British vessels only.

                Brexit is a utopian revolutionary project, and like all URPs it can never be achieved! Juche Britannia! Consign Earth to the Dustbin of History! The People Struggle for Brexit! &c.

                Revolutions are *hungry*.

                KatK This user is from outside of this forum
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                Kat
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                #14

                @cstross Send 'em all to Sealand. They're welcome to be self-sufficient there.

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                • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                  @aadeacon bUt sUReLy tHe SpiRiT oF DiAnA wAnTs mOrE hUmAn SaCriFiCEs?!?

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                  #15

                  @cstross @aadeacon Hand of Glory in the Wind

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                  • Isaac Ji KuoI Isaac Ji Kuo

                    @cstross Ah, I see. The real problem with Brexit was that they didn't Brexit hard enough.

                    BREXIT HARDER

                    Charlie StrossC This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @isaackuo NB: "withdraw from the ECHR" is a dog-whistle for "we want to reintroduce hanging and torture dissidents".

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                    • FediThing πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆF FediThing πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ

                      @cstross

                      What are they going to blame after leaving the ECHR? Are they going to scapegoat a minority and say that Brexit now requires "removing" that minority?

                      The ECHR is the only thing giving people in the UK any human rights. If the UK leaves it, then there would no longer be any human rights in Britain. All there would be are assorted laws that parliament would be totally free to revoke and replace with whatever they want, including 1930s-style stuff.

                      The lack of a written constitution or powerful second chamber in the UK combined with fascists leading the polls is putting Britain in an incredibly dangerous situation.

                      Charlie StrossC This user is from outside of this forum
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                      Charlie Stross
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                      #17

                      @FediThing yes. Be afraid.

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                      • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                        Today's headlines in the Daily Express!

                        The "Give Us a Proper Brexit" crusade calls for leaving the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR), slashing red tape for businesses and enforcing a 12-mile exclusion zone around the UK for British vessels only.

                        Brexit is a utopian revolutionary project, and like all URPs it can never be achieved! Juche Britannia! Consign Earth to the Dustbin of History! The People Struggle for Brexit! &c.

                        Revolutions are *hungry*.

                        SeiΓ°rI This user is from outside of this forum
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                        SeiΓ°r
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                        #18

                        @cstross This fucking LARP of 'Children of men' (movie) is going too fucking far.

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                        • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                          Today's headlines in the Daily Express!

                          The "Give Us a Proper Brexit" crusade calls for leaving the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR), slashing red tape for businesses and enforcing a 12-mile exclusion zone around the UK for British vessels only.

                          Brexit is a utopian revolutionary project, and like all URPs it can never be achieved! Juche Britannia! Consign Earth to the Dustbin of History! The People Struggle for Brexit! &c.

                          Revolutions are *hungry*.

                          Gerard Cunningham βœ’οΈF This user is from outside of this forum
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                          Gerard Cunningham βœ’οΈ
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                          @cstross
                          Unlimited rice pudding!

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                          • Mark DennehyM Mark Dennehy

                            @cstross Minimum distance* from the UK to Ireland is 1.3km (about .85 miles) between Magilligan point and Greencastle, so are they proposing to annex Donegal as part of Brexit now?
                            Because Donegal is in the EU and the EU is less of a fan than you'd think of people annexing its territory.

                            *Minimum distance by sea, obviously. Minimum distance by land is zero.

                            Feral FireD This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @markdennehy @cstross you think these people give a suffering fig for Nordie Land?

                            It didn't enter their calculations and machinations in 2016, it "robbed" them of their Glorious Sunlit Uplands in 2020, it is an irritation to them, nothing more.

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                            • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                              Today's headlines in the Daily Express!

                              The "Give Us a Proper Brexit" crusade calls for leaving the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR), slashing red tape for businesses and enforcing a 12-mile exclusion zone around the UK for British vessels only.

                              Brexit is a utopian revolutionary project, and like all URPs it can never be achieved! Juche Britannia! Consign Earth to the Dustbin of History! The People Struggle for Brexit! &c.

                              Revolutions are *hungry*.

                              UilebheistU This user is from outside of this forum
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                              Uilebheist
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                              #21

                              @cstross The Daily Distress.

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                              • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                Today's headlines in the Daily Express!

                                The "Give Us a Proper Brexit" crusade calls for leaving the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR), slashing red tape for businesses and enforcing a 12-mile exclusion zone around the UK for British vessels only.

                                Brexit is a utopian revolutionary project, and like all URPs it can never be achieved! Juche Britannia! Consign Earth to the Dustbin of History! The People Struggle for Brexit! &c.

                                Revolutions are *hungry*.

                                Cat!C This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #22

                                @cstross Brexit was never "the will of the people" (because there is no such thing) but it is far less the will of the people now than it was 10 years ago.

                                For all their anti-migrant rhetoric the only way they can push things further is with violence against Britons.

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                                • FediThing πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆF FediThing πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ

                                  @cstross

                                  What are they going to blame after leaving the ECHR? Are they going to scapegoat a minority and say that Brexit now requires "removing" that minority?

                                  The ECHR is the only thing giving people in the UK any human rights. If the UK leaves it, then there would no longer be any human rights in Britain. All there would be are assorted laws that parliament would be totally free to revoke and replace with whatever they want, including 1930s-style stuff.

                                  The lack of a written constitution or powerful second chamber in the UK combined with fascists leading the polls is putting Britain in an incredibly dangerous situation.

                                  Ray McCarthyR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @FediThing @cstross
                                  ECHR isn't an EU thing.
                                  UK founded it.

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                                  • Ray McCarthyR Ray McCarthy

                                    @FediThing @cstross
                                    ECHR isn't an EU thing.
                                    UK founded it.

                                    Charlie StrossC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @raymaccarthy @FediThing Yes, although adopting it is mandatory for EU membership: the Brexiters are somehow convinced that they want rid of it (despite it initially being called for by their object of veneration Winston Churchill.)

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                                    • Ray McCarthyR Ray McCarthy

                                      @FediThing @cstross
                                      ECHR isn't an EU thing.
                                      UK founded it.

                                      FediThing πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      FediThing πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ
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                                      @raymaccarthy @cstross

                                      Yup, that's why the UK is still a member of the ECHR.

                                      If they leave the ECHR that leaves the UK with precisely zero protections of human rights. It would be entirely up to the whim of whoever controls parliament whether there are elections, whether people are allowed to vote, whether people live or die etc.

                                      In most other democratic countries their PR electoral system and written constitution protects human rights, but the UK's FPTP system and lack of any written constitution means it's usually just one party that controls everything.

                                      The UK is in a really, really dangerous position for civil liberties.

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                                      • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                        Today's headlines in the Daily Express!

                                        The "Give Us a Proper Brexit" crusade calls for leaving the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR), slashing red tape for businesses and enforcing a 12-mile exclusion zone around the UK for British vessels only.

                                        Brexit is a utopian revolutionary project, and like all URPs it can never be achieved! Juche Britannia! Consign Earth to the Dustbin of History! The People Struggle for Brexit! &c.

                                        Revolutions are *hungry*.

                                        Angus McIntyreA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @cstross Ah yes, it's β€œThe reason why Brexit didn't work is because it wasn't REAL Brexit." It's the right-wing version of the continually-moving-the-goalposts logic that has a certain class of tankie telling you that the reason the Soviet Union wasn't paradise on Earth is because it wasn't REAL Communism (that part at least is true, but …)

                                        I assume the Real Brexiteers won't be happy until the British Empire is restored. Or not even then, because of course it won't be the REAL British Empire …

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                                        • Angus McIntyreA Angus McIntyre

                                          @cstross Ah yes, it's β€œThe reason why Brexit didn't work is because it wasn't REAL Brexit." It's the right-wing version of the continually-moving-the-goalposts logic that has a certain class of tankie telling you that the reason the Soviet Union wasn't paradise on Earth is because it wasn't REAL Communism (that part at least is true, but …)

                                          I assume the Real Brexiteers won't be happy until the British Empire is restored. Or not even then, because of course it won't be the REAL British Empire …

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                                          @angusm @cstross
                                          Look, if you don't have an Armada of Ships of the Line, then you don't have a proper empire.

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