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  • GhostOnTheHalfShellG GhostOnTheHalfShell

    @sundogplanets

    If you understand anything about the giant CF of data centers right now this is just the stupidest idea ever.

    First, the lifespan of these chips runs on the order of 18 months before they are considered obsolete and the chips fry very quickly so there is a very high failure rate.

    Also, the data centers power is determined by the networking of all the components in the data center.

    Ask yourself if RF communication broadcast between satellites can work like wires

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    @GhostOnTheHalfShell @sundogplanets Plus the big question of how you cool a GPU datacenter surrounded by the vacuum of space.

    But then, you probably don't really need to know anything about datacenters to realize that moving them into space is just going to make every aspect of them more difficult and expensive...

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    • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

      What the actual fuck. It's not April Fools Day, right? This is real?! Fuck you, SpaceX. Maybe this will help regulators realize how fucking shortsighted companies' plans in orbit are?

      Surely the FCC won't rubber-stamp-approve this one??... ONE MILLION STARLINKS FUUUUCCCKKKKKK

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      @sundogplanets - so much for ever seeing stars again

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      • PalmAndNeedleP PalmAndNeedle

        @sundogplanets I do feel like we're on the path to Neil Stephenson's Seven Eves somehow

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        @PalmAndNeedle @sundogplanets luckily the satellites aren't big enough to wipe us out when they fall, but they may make impossible to put anything in orbit once enough of them crash against each other

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        • Troed SångbergT Troed Sångberg

          @sundogplanets I'd still like journalists to start asking questions when "data centers in space" come up. Questions like:

          -"How will you cool them?"

          I really can't imagine there's a whole business plan drawn up thinking "space is really cold" will solve it but I'm starting to doubt ...

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          @troed @sundogplanets afaik the only way to cool in space is by radiation. there is no air so no convection. judging from my noob knowledge, i think cooling in space is much more complicated than on earth. because you have only 1 of the 3 possible heat transfers

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          • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

            What the actual fuck. It's not April Fools Day, right? This is real?! Fuck you, SpaceX. Maybe this will help regulators realize how fucking shortsighted companies' plans in orbit are?

            Surely the FCC won't rubber-stamp-approve this one??... ONE MILLION STARLINKS FUUUUCCCKKKKKK

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            SpaceX Eyes 1 Million Satellites for Orbital Data Center Push

            In a late Friday FCC filing, the company mentions deploying a staggering 'one million satellites' in orbits ranging from 500 kilometers to 2,000km.

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            PCMag Australia (au.pcmag.com)

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            #94

            @sundogplanets

            But, until Musk-Kessler Syndrome destroys all access to orbit for many decades, he'll give the world access to his "A.I". that will empower users to *checks notes* generate non-consensual pornography of women and children.

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            • �U �

              @troed @sundogplanets afaik the only way to cool in space is by radiation. there is no air so no convection. judging from my noob knowledge, i think cooling in space is much more complicated than on earth. because you have only 1 of the 3 possible heat transfers

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              #95

              @troed @sundogplanets damn, should be relpied to @ppulfer

              >why is this a problem? Datacenters in space would eliminate a lot of problems like access to free solar energy, cooling, etc.

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              • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

                What the actual fuck. It's not April Fools Day, right? This is real?! Fuck you, SpaceX. Maybe this will help regulators realize how fucking shortsighted companies' plans in orbit are?

                Surely the FCC won't rubber-stamp-approve this one??... ONE MILLION STARLINKS FUUUUCCCKKKKKK

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                SpaceX Eyes 1 Million Satellites for Orbital Data Center Push

                In a late Friday FCC filing, the company mentions deploying a staggering 'one million satellites' in orbits ranging from 500 kilometers to 2,000km.

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                PCMag Australia (au.pcmag.com)

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                #96

                @sundogplanets why wouldn't the FCC robber-stamp it? Isn't their job to rubber-stamp shortsighted companies' plans?

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                • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

                  What the actual fuck. It's not April Fools Day, right? This is real?! Fuck you, SpaceX. Maybe this will help regulators realize how fucking shortsighted companies' plans in orbit are?

                  Surely the FCC won't rubber-stamp-approve this one??... ONE MILLION STARLINKS FUUUUCCCKKKKKK

                  Link Preview Image
                  SpaceX Eyes 1 Million Satellites for Orbital Data Center Push

                  In a late Friday FCC filing, the company mentions deploying a staggering 'one million satellites' in orbits ranging from 500 kilometers to 2,000km.

                  favicon

                  PCMag Australia (au.pcmag.com)

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                  #97

                  @sundogplanets ....uhhhhh.

                  okay, plan b, china builds as many nuclear reactors as it takes to laser broom earth orbit clean, and then we have about 40 years to figure out how to stop the aluminum oxides from destroying the ozone layer,

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                    @troed @sundogplanets damn, should be relpied to @ppulfer

                    >why is this a problem? Datacenters in space would eliminate a lot of problems like access to free solar energy, cooling, etc.

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                    #98

                    @utf_7 @troed @sundogplanets, no worries. 🙂 Indeed, a much harder challenge but image the outcome if we would normalize this?

                    Tbf, I think we're not there yet and the announcement is more like a distraction but I'd welcome the actual technological outcome.

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                    • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

                      "Launching a constellation of a million satellites that operate as orbital data centers is a first step toward becoming a Kardashev II-level situation"

                      THIS IS IN AN FCC FILING NOT A SCIENCE FICTION NOVEL WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK I'M DEAD

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                      @sundogplanets For my own sanity i haven't read the news yet, so no clue what you are making fun of here... Did Elon typo Kessler Syndrome again. 😂😅

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                      • PatrickP Patrick

                        @utf_7 @troed @sundogplanets, no worries. 🙂 Indeed, a much harder challenge but image the outcome if we would normalize this?

                        Tbf, I think we're not there yet and the announcement is more like a distraction but I'd welcome the actual technological outcome.

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                        @ppulfer @troed @sundogplanets tbh, i cannot imagine a useful outcome. mind to share your thoughts on the benefits?

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                          @ppulfer @troed @sundogplanets tbh, i cannot imagine a useful outcome. mind to share your thoughts on the benefits?

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                          @utf_7 @troed @sundogplanets, my thoughts are on the biggest resource consumption of a datacenter: Cooling and Energy, which is very taxing right now on our existing capabilities.

                          We'd shift from constant CO2 emitting energy consumption on earth to solar in space and move away from using fresh water for cooling, which is becoming more and more scarce.

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                          • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

                            What the actual fuck. It's not April Fools Day, right? This is real?! Fuck you, SpaceX. Maybe this will help regulators realize how fucking shortsighted companies' plans in orbit are?

                            Surely the FCC won't rubber-stamp-approve this one??... ONE MILLION STARLINKS FUUUUCCCKKKKKK

                            Link Preview Image
                            SpaceX Eyes 1 Million Satellites for Orbital Data Center Push

                            In a late Friday FCC filing, the company mentions deploying a staggering 'one million satellites' in orbits ranging from 500 kilometers to 2,000km.

                            favicon

                            PCMag Australia (au.pcmag.com)

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                            @sundogplanets of course they will allow.

                            They want this to be free of ALL privacy law, as Space is not regulated.

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                            • Neo EhproqueE Neo Ehproque

                              @PalmAndNeedle @sundogplanets luckily the satellites aren't big enough to wipe us out when they fall, but they may make impossible to put anything in orbit once enough of them crash against each other

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                              @PalmAndNeedle And I can't say I'm looking forward to the future damage to our ozone layer ... Again. @sundogplanets @ehproque

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                              • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

                                "Launching a constellation of a million satellites that operate as orbital data centers is a first step toward becoming a Kardashev II-level situation"

                                THIS IS IN AN FCC FILING NOT A SCIENCE FICTION NOVEL WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK I'M DEAD

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                                @sundogplanets

                                Haha. Perhaps they mixed up Kardashev and Kessler...

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                                • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

                                  What the actual fuck. It's not April Fools Day, right? This is real?! Fuck you, SpaceX. Maybe this will help regulators realize how fucking shortsighted companies' plans in orbit are?

                                  Surely the FCC won't rubber-stamp-approve this one??... ONE MILLION STARLINKS FUUUUCCCKKKKKK

                                  Link Preview Image
                                  SpaceX Eyes 1 Million Satellites for Orbital Data Center Push

                                  In a late Friday FCC filing, the company mentions deploying a staggering 'one million satellites' in orbits ranging from 500 kilometers to 2,000km.

                                  favicon

                                  PCMag Australia (au.pcmag.com)

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                                  @sundogplanets I suggest we all become amateur radio astronomers but instead of receiving we transmit. We agree on a satellite to fry every day until starlink costs too much to keep running.

                                  Obviously we can't do this. Not everyone can afford a radio transmission setup & a satellite antenna, & the FCC in the USA & the equivalents in other countries would be very mad, but I wish we could do this.

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                                  • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

                                    What the actual fuck. It's not April Fools Day, right? This is real?! Fuck you, SpaceX. Maybe this will help regulators realize how fucking shortsighted companies' plans in orbit are?

                                    Surely the FCC won't rubber-stamp-approve this one??... ONE MILLION STARLINKS FUUUUCCCKKKKKK

                                    Link Preview Image
                                    SpaceX Eyes 1 Million Satellites for Orbital Data Center Push

                                    In a late Friday FCC filing, the company mentions deploying a staggering 'one million satellites' in orbits ranging from 500 kilometers to 2,000km.

                                    favicon

                                    PCMag Australia (au.pcmag.com)

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                                    #106

                                    @sundogplanets@mastodon.social And for data centers, no less. These aren't providing some useful service, they're just running out of room to put their stupid AI data centers so they're trying to put them in orbit. What a fucking joke

                                    How will they even cool them??? Cooling tech in space is
                                    notoriously difficult as the only way to remove heat from a body in space is to radiate it off. And that's extremely slow. Aren't they already having enough trouble cooling their data centers inside an atmosphere?

                                    I'm just honestly stunned at the continuing level of destructive stupidity these people show. Can't wait for a million space-borne data centers to blot out the stars in order to provide...
                                    checks notes technology that still won't be able to provide correct information.

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                                    • neville parkN neville park

                                      @sundogplanets it's incredibly embarrassing and pathetic that a lot of the techie sorts with access to power now are people who…like I say, there's no such thing as reading too much science fiction, but there IS such a thing as reading too LITTLE stuff that ISN'T science fiction.

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                                      @nev @sundogplanets

                                      There is such a thing as not thinking enough.

                                      And good SF doesn't hand-waves "technology" out of thin air either.

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                                      • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

                                        What the actual fuck. It's not April Fools Day, right? This is real?! Fuck you, SpaceX. Maybe this will help regulators realize how fucking shortsighted companies' plans in orbit are?

                                        Surely the FCC won't rubber-stamp-approve this one??... ONE MILLION STARLINKS FUUUUCCCKKKKKK

                                        Link Preview Image
                                        SpaceX Eyes 1 Million Satellites for Orbital Data Center Push

                                        In a late Friday FCC filing, the company mentions deploying a staggering 'one million satellites' in orbits ranging from 500 kilometers to 2,000km.

                                        favicon

                                        PCMag Australia (au.pcmag.com)

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                                        @sundogplanets this is the peak of irresponsibility you might think, until you wake up next morning.

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                                        • PatrickP Patrick

                                          @utf_7 @troed @sundogplanets, my thoughts are on the biggest resource consumption of a datacenter: Cooling and Energy, which is very taxing right now on our existing capabilities.

                                          We'd shift from constant CO2 emitting energy consumption on earth to solar in space and move away from using fresh water for cooling, which is becoming more and more scarce.

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                                          @ppulfer @troed @sundogplanets use solar on earth and don't use fresh water but a liquid cooling circuit and on the roof top a liquid/air heat exchanger?

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