@blackcoat i don't remember it ever being mentioned explicitly, but it makes a lot of sense, IF daggerheart is well enough received.i feel like they're testing the waters rn (and promoting it) with the umbra mini-series that just started as dh came out. if dh sells well and has hype, they switch over to it, but if it completely flops they keep dnd.that makes the most sense to me at least ^^and since dh seems to be doing fine, i assume cr4 will be dh