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  3. I am LOVING seeing so many AI projects being paused or binned.

I am LOVING seeing so many AI projects being paused or binned.

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    @SecurityWriter Tried to tell a good friend that the AI bubble was a Tech Wreck 2.0 but he was not having it. Sigh.

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    • GPG GP

      @ramsey @SecurityWriter For me it’s not just that, it’s the cost/revenue and ancillary stuff that folk just never think about. The environment, ethics, society impact, security and whether it does what it says on the tin are one thing (and valid). But when the sums don’t work out and confidence shifts…there’s no stopping that.

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      @gpshewan @SecurityWriter That’s what I mean. The CEOs are already beginning the shift to spin what’s coming, to make it more palatable to investors, because the bill is about to come due, and the promises haven’t been kept.

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      • GPG GP

        @ramsey @SecurityWriter For me it’s not just that, it’s the cost/revenue and ancillary stuff that folk just never think about. The environment, ethics, society impact, security and whether it does what it says on the tin are one thing (and valid). But when the sums don’t work out and confidence shifts…there’s no stopping that.

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        @gpshewan @ramsey @SecurityWriter Another is that at least the US government won't be likely to toss a bailout with the amount of gridlock in DC, so they're not easily going to get dump trucks of free money.

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          @SecurityWriter Told my boss I sincerely thought the AI bubble was on the verge of popping and he went home.

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            @baldur@toot.cafe, here's some hopeful evidence to counter a hopelessness thread you started the other day
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              @SecurityWriter @User47 🍿🍿🍿

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                @SecurityWriter
                Some poor intern will eventually get blamed.

                What happens when something goes wrong?
                Who's gonna get blamed?
                Who's responsible to fix it?
                What happens when someone gets injured or killed and the lawyers enter the room?

                What happens when they can't get someone to fix it because no one will touch it with a 3.048 m pole?

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                • ReverendDR ReverendD

                  @SecurityWriter Told my boss I sincerely thought the AI bubble was on the verge of popping and he went home.

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                  @ReverendD @SecurityWriter probably had himself a little cry.

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                    @SecurityWriter

                    One thing I learned, maybe it was this month? State government agencies, some of them, are forcing their employees to use AI stuff so the AI businesses can benefit from government contracts.

                    A nice lady used AI, and I used my phone to search. I found more stuff than she did. 😛

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                    • unlofl [Promoted Toot]U unlofl [Promoted Toot]

                      @SecurityWriter luckily, I upgraded my home lab systems and added a bunch of memory a year or two ago.

                      I'm biding my time, there's gonna be cheap gear for liquidation! $200 rack mount servers for everyone!

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                      @unlofl @SecurityWriter this is a good point that's getting me kind of excited about the future of the web. If hardware floods the market because corporations give up on making AI profitable, and internet users are all tired of the shit those corporations have been pulling with it... I bet we're approaching a turning point towards decentralization and community infrastructure

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                        @SecurityWriter

                        Also, the genius who figures out what to do with all that CPU they are building out will be in a good negotiating position.

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                        • Crovanian (CamstonIsland)C Crovanian (CamstonIsland)

                          @patrick_h_lauke i know we’re all a bit biased here, but I have legit not heard a single good argument about any downside to replacing these dumbass ceos with an LLM agent. If everyone else keeps their jobs and works competently, in what way would a difference be detectable in the end?

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                          @Crovanian @patrick_h_lauke the only downsides I can think of are the ecological downsides of using LLMs, the social implications of letting a technology with oppression built in make all the executive decisions, and extra money going to the shareholders
                          Then again, considering CEOs tend to have private jets, be white supremacists, and be one of the shareholders... I'm not sure anything would actually change 😂

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                            @SecurityWriter as a Project Manager that means my profession will get a boost because someone has to organize the recovery.

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                            • matthewcroughanM matthewcroughan
                              I've seen so many AI CEOs or people with close relationships to projects driven by AI getting real mad at the lack of positive sentiment to their work too. See https://github.com/anomalyco/opencode/issues/10416 and https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/423186#issuecomment-3919469369
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                              @matthewcroughan @SecurityWriter whew, "Home Buyers" in a privacy policy

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                              • CookiefiendL Cookiefiend

                                @n_dimension @gparenti @gpshewan @ramsey @SecurityWriter Plenty of insurers are using AI themselves--but they cover their asses by running AI copy/contract terms past their in-house lawyers.

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                                @LPerry2 @n_dimension @gparenti @gpshewan @ramsey @SecurityWriter

                                ... you hope.

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                                  @SecurityWriter

                                  It’s a new gold rush…

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                                  • Ben RamseyR Ben Ramsey

                                    @gpshewan @SecurityWriter That’s what I mean. The CEOs are already beginning the shift to spin what’s coming, to make it more palatable to investors, because the bill is about to come due, and the promises haven’t been kept.

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                                    @ramsey @gpshewan I hope you‘re right. I am seeing a lot of frustration with the lack of delivery but at the same time in our org management is doubling down after Claude has been better at delivering and it is hailed as the turning point when it finally is starting to be as good as we need it.
                                    And in some ways it’s true, I still need to do handholding and lay out the design but the coding part is much more reliable. The productivity increase is maybe not 10x though, more like 2-3x.

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                                    • Jess👾J Jess👾

                                      @gpshewan @ramsey @SecurityWriter Another is that at least the US government won't be likely to toss a bailout with the amount of gridlock in DC, so they're not easily going to get dump trucks of free money.

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                                      @JessTheUnstill @gpshewan @ramsey @SecurityWriter

                                      If Argentina can get billions for going fash, better believe tech-bros expect more and better for going all in. Bailouts for me, but not for thee- this is 1000% the most libertarian thing to do.

                                      A soft landing is why AI capital is busy buying up the California Democratic Party and Newsom.

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                                        @SecurityWriter but RAM is now triple the price. I would adapt my initial asked salary to the current RAM price. Of course not to future values...

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