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  • gnaddrigG gnaddrig

    @troy @briankrebs

    "Whose going to remember all of that anyways?"

    And who is going to check/verify any of this, and how?

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    wrote last edited by
    #91

    @gnaddrig @troy @briankrebs shitty AI to summarise it...incorrectly of course. All those data centres aren't just for CSAM...

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    • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

      I feel for anyone in the travel, tourism and hospitality industries, which make up ~ 10M jobs and ~ 3 percent of the nation's GDP. From the U.S. International Trade Administration (trade.gov)

      "Inbound international travel to the United States plays a vital role in the Nation’s economy and promotes cultural exchange and understanding. Travel and tourism is the largest single services export for the United States, accounting for 22 percent of the country’s services exports and 7 percent of all exports in 2023. The travel and tourism industry contributed $2.3 trillion to the U.S. economy in 2022 (2.97 percent of the country’s GDP), supporting 9.5 million jobs."

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      wrote last edited by
      #92

      @briankrebs This policy is going to fuck over Hawaii, certainly. Maybe Florida, too.

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      • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

        We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

        "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

        "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

        PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

        -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

        -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
        ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
        -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
        -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
        -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
        -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
        -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

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        The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

        Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).

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        Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

        The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
        must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

        Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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        wrote last edited by
        #93

        @briankrebs I could not with any confidence give anyone all the emails I have used last two or three years.

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        • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

          @briankrebs

          I'm British, white, male, aged 60-ish.

          Prior to February 2016 I typically visited the USA 3 times a year for up to six weeks.

          Since February 2016 I have visited the USA twice in a decade, for a total of 10 days.

          Entering the USA as a foreigner, with a Republican POTUS in the White House, *never* felt safe, but under Trump it looks diabolically dangerous. (And to a glance I resemble "one of them": I'm not female or dark-skinned.)

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          wrote last edited by
          #94

          @cstross

          It's a beautiful country.

          Visited a couple of times in the 90s, and did long road trips which were amazing. Still have a few friends over there that have yet to assume room temperature (I'm a little older than you) and with whom I still correspond.

          Cannot and will not go back there until this crap-storm is over. So sad..

          @briankrebs

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          • Rob Cinos :verified:R Rob Cinos :verified:

            @briankrebs Cancel the World Cup.

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            wrote last edited by
            #95

            @robcinos
            It may just cancel itself. @briankrebs

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            • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

              We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

              "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

              "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

              PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

              -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

              -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
              ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
              -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
              -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
              -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
              -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
              -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

              Link Preview Image
              The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

              Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).

              favicon

              Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

              The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
              must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

              Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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              wrote last edited by
              #96

              Side note:

              »Sepp Blatter suggests fans should not travel to #US for World Cup
              Ex-#Fifa boss shows support for #boycott calls«

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              Sepp Blatter suggests fans should not travel to US for World Cup

              The former Fifa president backed a Swiss lawyer who called for a boycott of the tournament due to security concerns in the US

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              the Guardian (www.theguardian.com)

              https://eu.usatoday.com/story/sports/soccer/worldcup/2026/01/26/former-fifa-president-sepp-blatter-fans-usa-world-cup/88361864007/

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              • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                @briankrebs

                I'm British, white, male, aged 60-ish.

                Prior to February 2016 I typically visited the USA 3 times a year for up to six weeks.

                Since February 2016 I have visited the USA twice in a decade, for a total of 10 days.

                Entering the USA as a foreigner, with a Republican POTUS in the White House, *never* felt safe, but under Trump it looks diabolically dangerous. (And to a glance I resemble "one of them": I'm not female or dark-skinned.)

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                wrote last edited by
                #97

                @cstross
                My spouse, a US citizen, went home to visit family last year, and found themselves distinctly uncomfortable at the border. I don't think I've been back since we were married, also in 2016.
                @briankrebs

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                • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                  We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                  "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                  "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                  PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                  -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                  -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                  ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                  -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                  -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                  -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                  -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                  -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                  Link Preview Image
                  The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

                  Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).

                  favicon

                  Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

                  The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                  must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                  Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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                  wrote last edited by
                  #98

                  @briankrebs A LOT of things will have to change in the US if I'm to ever set my foot on that continent again.
                  At this point I'm not even sure the US will ever be able to win back the trust of many Europeans

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                  • Lazarou Monkey Terror 🚀💙🌈L Lazarou Monkey Terror 🚀💙🌈

                    @gnaddrig @troy @briankrebs shitty AI to summarise it...incorrectly of course. All those data centres aren't just for CSAM...

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                    wrote last edited by
                    #99

                    @Lazarou @troy @briankrebs
                    Makes sense, facts don't matter to these people. It's not about finding out facts about anything but to show everyone who is the hammer and who the nail ..

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                    • Otmar LendlO Otmar Lendl

                      @briankrebs just cancel the Olympics and the FIFA World Cup as the next step.

                      I will not travel to the US in 2026 just as sure as I would not recommend time travel to Germany 1936 to a jew.

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                      #100

                      @otmar @briankrebs Nor will I ( travel to the US whilst Trump
                      Is P.)

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                      • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                        We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                        "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                        "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                        PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                        -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                        -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                        ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                        -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                        -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                        -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                        -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                        -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                        Link Preview Image
                        The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

                        Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).

                        favicon

                        Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

                        The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                        must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                        Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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                        wrote last edited by
                        #101

                        @briankrebs wait, thats awesome! that means they are still not capable of finding this out on theirselfes!

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                        • Steven HeywoodS Steven Heywood

                          @briankrebs
                          It's almost as if all that hero-worshipping of North Korea in Trump's first term of office led him to decide to close the US border and only allow the US citizens he's deporting out and Nigel Farage in.

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                          wrote last edited by
                          #102

                          @Stevenheywood @briankrebs He can keep Nige!

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                          • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                            We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                            "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                            "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                            PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                            -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                            -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                            ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                            -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                            -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                            -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                            -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                            -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                            Link Preview Image
                            The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

                            Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).

                            favicon

                            Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

                            The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                            must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                            Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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                            wrote last edited by
                            #103

                            @briankrebs

                            They don't even have all that info on citizens!

                            (I've been warning people to not come to the US since TFG was re-elected.)

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                            • Kyle Memoir 🍉F Kyle Memoir 🍉

                              @briankrebs

                              Why don't they just come out and say 'visitors to USA not welcome'?

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                              wrote last edited by
                              #104

                              @f800gecko @briankrebs I assume they will sample the DNA by amputating a toe? Will this be introduced in time for the World Cup?

                              The EU has introduced biometric checks on entry last year, but this goes up a level.

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                              • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                                We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                                "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                                "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                                PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                                -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                                -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                                ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                                -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                                -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                                -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                                -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                                -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                                Link Preview Image
                                The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

                                Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).

                                favicon

                                Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

                                The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                                must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                                Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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                                wrote last edited by
                                #105

                                @briankrebs it is morally indefensible to travel into the USSA at this point

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                                • Elisabeth MI Elisabeth M

                                  @aka_quant_noir @SaanichGuy @briankrebs funny thing is imagining how upset they would be if literally every person left the US. Can you imagine their confusion

                                  "Guys ... but guys, I ... need someone here to order around."

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                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #106

                                  @independentpen @SaanichGuy @briankrebs

                                  We don't need to leave the US. Just it's economic system. Stop honoring debt. Stop paying taxes. Set up extremely robust mutual aid.

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                                  • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                                    I feel for anyone in the travel, tourism and hospitality industries, which make up ~ 10M jobs and ~ 3 percent of the nation's GDP. From the U.S. International Trade Administration (trade.gov)

                                    "Inbound international travel to the United States plays a vital role in the Nation’s economy and promotes cultural exchange and understanding. Travel and tourism is the largest single services export for the United States, accounting for 22 percent of the country’s services exports and 7 percent of all exports in 2023. The travel and tourism industry contributed $2.3 trillion to the U.S. economy in 2022 (2.97 percent of the country’s GDP), supporting 9.5 million jobs."

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                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #107

                                    @briankrebs J1 visa applicants already have to make all their social media accounts public for State Dept inspection. I guess the US is extending the requirement to tourist visas. Who would want to come here under these circumstances?

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                                    • AAKLA AAKL

                                      @briankrebs FIFA's Word Cup tournaments in the U.S. need to be boycotted or cancelled. This puts the world at the mercy of these thugs.

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                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #108

                                      @AAKL @briankrebs If the German football federation decides to either boycott the WC entirely or boycott matches in the US the rest of Europe will do the same. Mexico and Canada can handle the extra matches and tourists. FIFA can adjust quickly to cut the US out. The US matches will have low ranked teams playing in near empty stadiums.

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                                      • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                                        We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                                        "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                                        "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                                        PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                                        -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                                        -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                                        ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                                        -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                                        -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                                        -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                                        -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                                        -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                                        Link Preview Image
                                        The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

                                        Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).

                                        favicon

                                        Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

                                        The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                                        must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                                        Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #109

                                        @briankrebs I'm British, worked in Seattle for years back in the early 2000's and have friends out there that I will no longer see, not to mention new Fedi-friends that I'd love to meet irl.

                                        How anyone can justify travelling to the US under these horrendous requirements is beyond me. RIP USA...

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                                        • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                                          We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                                          "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                                          "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                                          PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                                          -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                                          -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                                          ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                                          -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                                          -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                                          -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                                          -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                                          -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                                          Link Preview Image
                                          The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

                                          Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).

                                          favicon

                                          Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

                                          The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                                          must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                                          Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #110

                                          @briankrebs

                                          It's OK for me.

                                          The only reason I'd go to USA is if my company forces me to do so.

                                          Now I can say "no" also in that case, on the legal basis that I don't want to give up my privacy rights.

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