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  • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

    We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

    "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

    "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

    PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

    -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

    -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
    ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
    -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
    -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
    -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
    -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
    -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

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    The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

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    Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

    The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
    must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

    Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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    #166

    @briankrebs où peut on envoyer des commentaires?
    Je pense que ce type de collecte d'informations nuit tout simplement à la confiance des immigrants envers l'Etat Américain et risque de nuire indirectement à l'économie, car c'est bien connu "'rétablissez la confiance, et l'intendance suivra" non?

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    • Shiitake ToastS Shiitake Toast

      @briankrebs I wish people understood how important the Federal Register is to how law is made. The government has to consider comments and if they fail to consider them seriously you can sue to block a regulation. The more people who comment with serious objections to a rule, the harder it is for the government to implement that rule. It’s an under appreciated avenue for direct democracy and direct action. If there’s an issue you care about, you can follow that on the FR

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      #167

      @ShiitakeToast @briankrebs how can we submit comments on this proposal?

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      • Ulrik Nyman ⬡U This user is from outside of this forum
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        wrote last edited by
        #168

        @AlexanderVI @dann @briankrebs does not matter.

        Boycott the whole thing.

        Boycott everything that the USA touches.

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        • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

          We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

          "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

          "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

          PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

          -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

          -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
          ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
          -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
          -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
          -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
          -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
          -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

          Link Preview Image
          The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

          Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).

          favicon

          Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

          The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
          must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

          Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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          #169

          @briankrebs It's everything tin hat conservatives have been railing about my whole life, but now that it's here they're on board because they're the ones implementing it

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          • [object Object]G [object Object]

            @briankrebs It's everything tin hat conservatives have been railing about my whole life, but now that it's here they're on board because they're the ones implementing it

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            64 Islands Aroha Cooperative
            wrote last edited by
            #170

            @gneilyo @briankrebs and they think it will only apply to foreigners, and/or that they themselves have nothing to hide

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            • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

              We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

              "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

              "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

              PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

              -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

              -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
              ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
              -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
              -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
              -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
              -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
              -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

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              The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

              Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).

              favicon

              Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

              The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
              must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

              Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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              #171

              @briankrebs this is great. Why would you travel there anyway.

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              • Kyle Memoir 🍉F Kyle Memoir 🍉

                @SecondUniverse @briankrebs

                10 visit max (they'll sample each time to avoid DNA spoofing!)

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                #172

                @f800gecko @SecondUniverse @briankrebs That made me laugh.

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                • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                  We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                  "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                  "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                  PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                  -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                  -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                  ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                  -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                  -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                  -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                  -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                  -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                  Link Preview Image
                  The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

                  Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).

                  favicon

                  Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

                  The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                  must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                  Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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                  Lazy B0y
                  wrote last edited by
                  #173

                  @briankrebs
                  why dont they just take the social media Posts from Suck, Musk and Ellison et al?

                  one option might they know it all already but want challenge ones compliance...

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                  • Dueark privatD Dueark privat

                    @briankrebs
                    sounds familiar to me...
                    have seen similar in another palantir country 😳😳

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                    wrote last edited by
                    #174

                    @dueark @briankrebs where?

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                    • 64 Islands Aroha CooperativeA 64 Islands Aroha Cooperative

                      @gneilyo @briankrebs and they think it will only apply to foreigners, and/or that they themselves have nothing to hide

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                      @airshipper @briankrebs Exactly. The musical chairs never stops under fascism.

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                      • John Francis 🦫🇨🇦🍁💪⬆️J John Francis 🦫🇨🇦🍁💪⬆️

                        @briankrebs that's a lot more invasive than the submissions I've done for security clearances.

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                        #176

                        @johnefrancis @briankrebs also almost impossible to comply with (family phone numbers etc) so along with feeds into the surveillance state it’ll just be cover for arbitrary detention.

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                        • FZ F

                          @Wyatt_H_Knott
                          They need to make sure you're pure enough
                          @briankrebs

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                          #177

                          @zm
                          and then they find out we're all from africa...
                          @Wyatt_H_Knott @briankrebs

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                          • Eric GoodwinA Eric Goodwin

                            @johnefrancis @briankrebs also almost impossible to comply with (family phone numbers etc) so along with feeds into the surveillance state it’ll just be cover for arbitrary detention.

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                            Stéphanie
                            wrote last edited by
                            #178

                            @auxonic @johnefrancis @briankrebs I have a secret security clearance and the process was SO much less invasive than that. So ridiculous

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                            • Lazy B0yL Lazy B0y

                              @zm
                              and then they find out we're all from africa...
                              @Wyatt_H_Knott @briankrebs

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                              @lazyb0y @zm @briankrebs https://www.waltermosley.com/there-is-no-white-race/

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                              • Lazy B0yL Lazy B0y

                                @zm
                                and then they find out we're all from africa...
                                @Wyatt_H_Knott @briankrebs

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                                @lazyb0y @zm @Wyatt_H_Knott @briankrebs They’re not, tho. They think they’re from some secret white center-of-the-earth thingy (deep, bizarre nazi stuff, apparently popular again) /s

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                                • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                                  We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                                  "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                                  "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                                  PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                                  -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                                  -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                                  ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                                  -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                                  -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                                  -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                                  -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                                  -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                                  Link Preview Image
                                  The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

                                  Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).

                                  favicon

                                  Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

                                  The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                                  must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                                  Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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                                  @briankrebs it doesn't surprise me how the US government is acting with the border control - I think, I will attend "virtual" when attending conferences... and I think I will look for conferences and it-sec-organizations outside the US. Also, the current direction of policies does add a very big question mark to all US it-sec-products. Products from China and Russia do now provide similar trust in regards of state actor influence

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                                  • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                                    We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                                    "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                                    "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                                    PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                                    -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                                    -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                                    ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                                    -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                                    -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                                    -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                                    -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                                    -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                                    Link Preview Image
                                    The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

                                    Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).

                                    favicon

                                    Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

                                    The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                                    must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                                    Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #182

                                    @briankrebs what an excellent way to kill the tourism industry.

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                                    • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                                      We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                                      "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                                      "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                                      PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                                      -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                                      -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                                      ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                                      -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                                      -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                                      -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                                      -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                                      -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                                      Link Preview Image
                                      The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

                                      Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).

                                      favicon

                                      Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

                                      The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                                      must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                                      Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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                                      #183

                                      @briankrebs I think we can be sure the mandatory CBP app for the application won't be trustable either and could well be backdooring your device.

                                      Canada needs to apply the same rule to every truck crossing the border, especially to/from Alaska and searching each one for fentanyl or russian contraband.

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                                      • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                                        We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                                        "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                                        "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                                        PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                                        -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                                        -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                                        ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                                        -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                                        -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                                        -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                                        -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                                        -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                                        Link Preview Image
                                        The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

                                        Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).

                                        favicon

                                        Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

                                        The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                                        must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                                        Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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                                        @briankrebs
                                        For those saying, "Just don't travel to the US", there people like my relatives that must to travel to the US for work. They have no choice.
                                        It's my hope that their head office helps them by not requiring them to travel there.

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                                          @Npars01 we cannot afford these amoral loutish billionaires

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