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We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running.

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  • StéphanieS Stéphanie

    @fennix @auxonic @johnefrancis @briankrebs That was already not happening anymore, but that makes it even easier

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    Fennix
    wrote last edited by
    #198

    @stephanie @auxonic @johnefrancis

    Yeah I realize my post makes it sound like I had plans but it was more about a potential when the US returns to sanity.

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    • F Flounder

      @briankrebs fash? Pass.

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      wrote last edited by
      #199

      @fl0und3r So...pass on #fashpass? I like yours better.

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      • StéphanieS Stéphanie

        @fennix @auxonic @johnefrancis @briankrebs That was already not happening anymore, but that makes it even easier

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        wrote last edited by
        #200

        @stephanie @fennix @auxonic @briankrebs I was hoping I could visit Mandami's New York someday for the US Open. I stopped visiting FLA in 2016, hard to believe it's been 10y.

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        • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

          We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

          "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

          "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

          PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

          -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

          -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
          ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
          -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
          -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
          -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
          -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
          -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

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          The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

          Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).

          favicon

          Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

          The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
          must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

          Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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          wrote last edited by
          #201

          @briankrebs
          I wonder if the same requirements will be given to issue American passports.

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          • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

            We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

            "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

            "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

            PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

            -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

            -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
            ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
            -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
            -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
            -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
            -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
            -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

            Link Preview Image
            The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

            Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).

            favicon

            Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

            The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
            must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

            Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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            wrote last edited by
            #202

            @briankrebs What would it even *mean* to submit five years of social media? Copy and paste every tweet/toot/post into a box on the application form?

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            • S ShadSterling

              @ShiitakeToast @briankrebs how can we submit comments on this proposal?

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              wrote last edited by
              #203

              @ShadSterling @briankrebs this one doesn’t appear to be on regulations.gov
              You have to submit by email:

              “Written comments and/or
              suggestions regarding the item(s)
              contained in this notice must include
              the OMB Control Number 1651–0111 in
              the subject line and the agency name.
              Please submit written comments and/or
              suggestions in English. Please use the
              following method to submit comments:
              Email: Submit comments to:
              CBP_PRA@cbp.dhs.gov “

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              • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                @briankrebs

                I'm British, white, male, aged 60-ish.

                Prior to February 2016 I typically visited the USA 3 times a year for up to six weeks.

                Since February 2016 I have visited the USA twice in a decade, for a total of 10 days.

                Entering the USA as a foreigner, with a Republican POTUS in the White House, *never* felt safe, but under Trump it looks diabolically dangerous. (And to a glance I resemble "one of them": I'm not female or dark-skinned.)

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                wrote last edited by
                #204

                @cstross @briankrebs Honestly even returning from international travel as a US citizen doesn’t feel safe if you don’t check the right boxes in your personal profile. If I absolutely had to enter the US right now I’d pre-clear in somewhere like Dublin, but the whole thing feels like a crapshoot.

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                • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                  We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                  "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                  "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                  PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                  -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                  -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                  ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                  -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                  -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                  -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                  -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                  -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                  Link Preview Image
                  The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

                  Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).

                  favicon

                  Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

                  The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                  must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                  Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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                  wrote last edited by
                  #205

                  @briankrebs Such stupidity.

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                  • Darwin WoodkaD Darwin Woodka

                    @TGG303 @briankrebs

                    As fast as he's devaluing the dollar, I don't think he understands money.

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                    wrote last edited by
                    #206

                    @darwinwoodka @briankrebs You're right in that he doesnt understand it but he sure does want it.

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                    • Bruno NicolettiB Bruno Nicoletti

                      @briankrebs Noping out hard on that.

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                      wrote last edited by
                      #207

                      @briankrebs The annoyance is that if any of my family were to travel to the USA they’d be obligated to dox me to the US authorities. Which is something I wouldn’t want to do to them.

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                      • Shiitake ToastS Shiitake Toast

                        @ShadSterling @briankrebs this one doesn’t appear to be on regulations.gov
                        You have to submit by email:

                        “Written comments and/or
                        suggestions regarding the item(s)
                        contained in this notice must include
                        the OMB Control Number 1651–0111 in
                        the subject line and the agency name.
                        Please submit written comments and/or
                        suggestions in English. Please use the
                        following method to submit comments:
                        Email: Submit comments to:
                        CBP_PRA@cbp.dhs.gov “

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                        wrote last edited by
                        #208

                        @briankrebs @ShadSterling It’s good to include information about how the proposed regulations affect you, personally, if you can. Examples for this one could be harm to business with partners from GDPR countries. Harm to your Airbnb business. Alienation from your personal friends and family abroad. Impact on the data on US persons shared with travelers I’m sure you can think of other harms, too..

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                        • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                          We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                          "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                          "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                          PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                          -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                          -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                          ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                          -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                          -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                          -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                          -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                          -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                          Link Preview Image
                          The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

                          Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).

                          favicon

                          Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

                          The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                          must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                          Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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                          David
                          wrote last edited by
                          #209

                          @briankrebs
                          This will isolate America.

                          Lets hope then will stay isolated and stop fucking around foreign countries. 😒

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                          • Hans van ZijstH Hans van Zijst
                            @Martin Seeger
                            I think any person wanting to visit the U.S. at the current state must be completely nuts.


                            Or unfathomably naive...
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                            Martin Seeger
                            wrote last edited by
                            #210

                            @hans So naive it borders on "nuts" 😜.

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                            • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                              We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                              "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                              "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                              PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                              -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                              -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                              ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                              -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                              -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                              -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                              -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                              -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                              Link Preview Image
                              The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

                              Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).

                              favicon

                              Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

                              The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                              must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                              Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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                              Uli Hofmann
                              wrote last edited by
                              #211

                              @briankrebs Happy to give my business elsewhere!

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                              • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                                We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                                "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                                "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                                PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                                -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                                -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                                ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                                -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                                -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                                -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                                -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                                -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                                Link Preview Image
                                The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

                                Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).

                                favicon

                                Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

                                The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                                must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                                Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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                                HarryMutt
                                wrote last edited by
                                #212

                                @briankrebs

                                Boycott Yankistan! It has always been an invasive empire of corporate and public data thieves. And since they have gone fully fascist, they have completely lost their minds.

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                                • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                                  We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                                  "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                                  "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                                  PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                                  -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                                  -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                                  ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                                  -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                                  -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                                  -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                                  -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                                  -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                                  Link Preview Image
                                  The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

                                  Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).

                                  favicon

                                  Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

                                  The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                                  must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                                  Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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                                  Simon Zerafa
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #213

                                  @briankrebs

                                  All very good reasons to never fly into or over the US, until this fascist nonsense is history.

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                                  • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                                    We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                                    "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                                    "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                                    PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                                    -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                                    -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                                    ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                                    -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                                    -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                                    -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                                    -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                                    -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                                    Link Preview Image
                                    The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

                                    Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).

                                    favicon

                                    Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

                                    The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                                    must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                                    Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #214

                                    @briankrebs

                                    If the Trump regime makes up an email address or a phone number or whatever as an excuse to bar entry to someone, how can that person reasonably be expected to prove the contrary?

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                                    • bnoB bno

                                      @briankrebs A LOT of things will have to change in the US if I'm to ever set my foot on that continent again.
                                      At this point I'm not even sure the US will ever be able to win back the trust of many Europeans

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                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #215

                                      @bno
                                      True, it's very unlikely I'll ever set foot in the USA. I'll still visit Mexico and South America though, as it's great for bikepacking.

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                                      • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                                        We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                                        "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                                        "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                                        PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                                        -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                                        -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                                        ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                                        -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                                        -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                                        -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                                        -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                                        -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                                        Link Preview Image
                                        The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

                                        Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).

                                        favicon

                                        Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

                                        The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                                        must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                                        Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #216

                                        @briankrebs This will 100% tank 100% of the travel to the U.S. We need to impeach the fat orange fscist as fast as we can to prevent further damage. ANY U.S. house representative or senator also needs to be voted out in the midterms (if they are up for reelection) if they do not side with the will of the people to impeach. And anyone still in office needs to be censored for not voting to impeach.

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                                        • AnneHA AnneH

                                          @Giliell @briankrebs If you didn't consent I think it would be contrary to GDPR to give it.

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                                          Giliell
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #217

                                          @annehargreaves @briankrebs Yeah, but that's only good if it's being enforced.

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