I feel like if you made a Venn diagram between Lemmy users and Linux users, it would just be a circle. I say this as also a Linux enjoyer.

I don’t see what relevance that comment has to mine. Why did you write this?

I’m a lemmy user, I don’t currently use linux. So your point is not correct.

More importantly, I wasn’t saying anything about linux users, I’m pointing out the the source that was posted is a blogspam non-reputable source.

Did you ever use windows before XP?

Many games are still not functional on Linux. Here is a link showing which ones aren’t just due to their anti-cheat features. That doesn’t include games that aren’t compatible for other reasons.

Are We Anti-Cheat Yet?

(areweanticheatyet.com)

game companies are entrenched, tools, libraries, think hardware emulation layers like DirectX. and installed os monopoly. linux exists because of diy types unwilling to pay someone else to do it. if you know how, make lusers pay you to do it for them. they can’t understand the details. wasting your breath

You somehow made me aware Gates had to use either an UNIX derivative (iPhone) or a Linux derivative (Android) daily.

It’s pretty rare to find a game that doesn’t work for a reason that isn’t anticheat. I would say the few that are incompatible definitely classify as the exception and not the rule.

I was going to reply with this:

Gnome

Ahh.

Huh? Are you using an ISO from 2004 or something? I’ve never used a terminal on my PC outside of windows. On Linux I don’t even have one installed.

In my experience Windows is bewilderingly complicated, prone to breakage, full of spying/ads, and is a bit of a UX/UI nightmare.

It also just… turns sluggish over time. I’m not 100% sure why, but running their sketchy-looking disk cleanup utility seems to do the trick. Why it has to be something the user knows about and regularly carries out manually is beyond me, though.

I just want my PC to work, not fight me, and not feel like a chore to use. Windows cannot give me that.

I’m not playing any games with anticheat and I’m working so much I only play single player. Linux won for me

So it just happens that I’m always unlucky with the hardware in all 3 gaming desktop PCs that I’ve built over the last ~14 years that they would have this behaviour? (Bluescreen out of nowhere, without any intensive hardware usage or weird behaviour or anything that justifies triggering this)

I haven’t ran Linux on this machine yet, but I’m more likely to go for it with each passing day. I can let you know how it goes and how many crashes I get. I don’t expect any, as I’ve been using Linux on my laptops for close to 10 years now and the only time I had a hardware problem was because I was using my old laptop as a server and its HDD died - but that’s because HDD laptops are not meant for these usage patterns, so totally expected tbh.

I find it super interesting that there is this pushback from you and the other user here saying “Windows doesn’t have any problems”, which now turns into “Ah but that’s hardware and Linux would have it too!” - How can you know?? How can you make such an apt diagnosis that it’s not a Windows-only issue with practically zero information??

Because if we are just blindly applying patterns then yes I can do the same - I’ve literally never had a running Linux system crash on me, from running it in VMs, Cloud VPSs, Laptops and even a Raspberry Pi. And in the same timeframe I’ve had more random blue screens on Windows than I can count. And I can tell you that I looked quite hard at a few of them to try and avoid triggering them. The only one I managed to figure out was that in a Laptop X USB-powered headset combo I could never start up the system with the headset connected, as if the cable was messed with and the dongle lost connection, it would immediately blue screen the laptop. But if it booted with the USB dongle disconnected and I connected it later, it was totally fine!! - Even with this crash being caused by hardware, how can you say that this is a reasonable behaviour from a “production-ready” OS? The latter behaviour tells us that it is totally possible to handle this hardware error without a full system crash, but it can happen all the same!

I honestly don’t understand what you or the other user get from being so adamant about Windows being good, or being “not that bad”, or just “Windows isn’t the problem here, you are” I hope at least Microsoft pays you well for the advertising!

Well, what distro are you using? I barely ever needed the terminal on Windows, while it comes up consistently for solving problems on Linux so far, so I must be doing something wrong.

Pretty much most installation instructions for abraunegg’s Onedrive client include using it if only to install the package, and since I couldn’t get the GUI to work, also operating it.

Friend, I used computers before DOS.

I’d assume that for the majority of his career he was using something like Series 20 OS (Nokia’s proprietary OS) or the BlackBerry OS (before it was rewritten to be based on UNIX-like QNX).

But since then, yeah. There are literally no other options since MS killed Windows Mobile with prejudice.

If you can find a game that doesn’t work on Linux at this point not due to anti cheat that would be honestly rather impressive.

Generally speaking, drivers like this should be included in the kernel and there should be no need to install anything. Of course, this depends on the firmware, modell of your controller and the linux kernel version, but as far as I know, most xbox controllers should work out of the box. I have never used xbox controllers, but there has been a community developed driver project for decades.

So there was maybe a specific issue/bug, which can happen of course, but that isn’t unique to linux. The difference is that in Linux, you CAN tinker if you want to (and know what you are doing). In less open systems, that’s a lot harder and you have to hope and rely on the manufacturer to fix it.

In windows, the way it works generally is that the manufacturer developes and provides the driver. In linux, there is a chicken and egg issue. A lot of manufacturers don’t bother to develope drivers for linux because there aren’t a lot of users and there aren’t a lot of users because manufacturers don’t bother providing drivers and other software. In the case of xbox, it is even more tricky since microsoft has no real interest to get their hardware working on competing operating systems.

It has gotten a lot better in recent years, and I expect it will continue, as desktop linux slowly gains more traction, but a lot of software in general still depends on the community and third party actors.

And I’m not sure what the better alternative would be. You can run community written shell scripts in a gui, but then you have even more people who run random software written by random people without even remotely knowing what they are doing. So in that case, a barrier (like a cli) is actually useful since it might stop people without knowhow from breaking their system or installing malware.

The only “real” alternative for the average joe would be manufacturers supporting their own hardware.

Yep. I’m lucky i know Docker and Bash. I was able to make my own container FROM Bazzite. But good luck to you, if you don’t know that.

I mean, you can always layer (rpm-ostree). Honestly Bazzite is a WIP.

I don’t think i was very clear. What i meant to say is that the type of people to find and engage in niche online communities that relate to tech are going to be significantly more likely to use an operating system different than the average person, thus Lemmy users, who often advocate for freer consumer technology as the existence of this platform is mostly a protest against major social media sites. These consumer freedom tech communities will always be biased towards Linux and could create circlejerks where we convince eachother we are on the right side of things. Last asterisk, i know most users here are still windows or mac users. But instead of Linux users being 2% of the community like in the real world, we could be 25% instead, thus greatly exaggerating real life support.