I only upgraded from my 380 this year

They have the hardware for hpc, with their instinct cards. Software support is slowly growing. Rocm is fine, ZLUDA is pain and suffering on amd cards. I have a 6800xt, so old but decently supported and even then it’s annoying

What I mean is they need to sell reasonable high VRAM cards that aren’t a MI325X, heh.

There’s not really a motivation to target them over a 3090 or 4090 or whatever, but that would change with bigger VRAM pools.

It’s fear of failure not success because success isn’t an option.

Cause if they start to “succeed” then they actually fail since they will be crushed by Nvidia.

Their options are to either hold the status quo or lose more because they angered the green hulk in the room

That is concerning

You don’t want to anger the 800 pound gorilla.

It fells between 5070 Ti and 5080 while still being cheaper than 5070 Ti.

AMD doesn’t support CUDA

That one stung XD. I went with an AMD GPU in 2023 after only owning Nvidia for decades. I went with AMD because I was not satisfied with the amount of Vram Nvidia offers and I did not want burning power connectors. Overall it’s stable and works great. There are some bugs here and there, but zero regrets.

What does that have to do with anything? Pretty much all monitors also support FreeSync which works just as well.

„The Market” is not a good measure. Hell, its not even a measure at all. No consumer is able to pull any good info from this article.

Its the equivalent of „How much money has been spent of products by company xy”, completely disregarding if the products sold are even competing with each other, let alone if the production of one company is even trying to sell at that scale

Now regarding the article: they are not differentiating between enterprise and personal grade products. Of course Intel is non existent in Enterprise GPU sales, because they don’t even sell fucking Enterprise GPUs. Same with amd.

This is like comparing a local steel working company with weckerle machines who mostly makes industry Make-up equipment (out of steel) and saying that Weckerle dominates the Market

Or like saying „Gamers Beware: Pre-built PCs are dominating the market”, then showing a study about „ Computing devices”, and showing that the 2 main sources are Enterprise buying bulk and NUCs, both of which have nothing to do with what the article is implying in the first place, since, and say this with me

• Enterprise devices are completely different from consumer devices, both in terms of price and in volume, and if compared directly (in the middle of an economic crisis) of course an Enterprise is going to spend way more money on one category.

Y’all have pre-built phones? And even laptops? Or car computers??
Weirdos.

/s

But def, this type of info is at best for the investors (and even then just unstructured info about market shares), not consumers.

5070 ti has come down to its normal price. You can find listings for $750. 9070 xt is better in some games than the 5070 ti in terms of raw raster. When it comes to upscaling, efficiency,and ray tracing. The 5070 ti is better.

TIL there’s a lot of people who don’t know what a dGPU is in here

7900xtx is 24 gb, the 9700 pro has 32 gb as far as high end consumer/prosumer goes. There’s no point of shoving that much vram into it if support is painful and makes it hard to develop. I’m probably biased due to my 6800xt, one of the earliest cards that’s still supported by rocm, so there’s a bunch of stuff my gpu can’t do. ZLUDA is painful to get working (and I have it easier due to my 6800xt), ROCM is mostly works but vram utilization is very inefficient for some reason and it’s Linux only, which is fine but I’d like more crossplatform options. Vulkan compute is deprecated within pytorch. AMD HIP is annoying as well but idk how much of it was just my experience with ZLUDA.

Intel actually has better cross platform support with IPEX, but that’s just pytorch. Again, fine.

I have a g-sync monitor. It supports g-sync. It is very nice, but unfortunately it does NOT support freesync.

People who say buy Intel and amd probably either did or will when they upgrade, which is probably not anytime soon with the way everything seems to be going.

GPU hasnt been profitable to mine for many years now.

People just keep parroting anti-crypto talking points for years without actually knowing what’a going on

To be clear, 99% of the crypto space is a scam. But to blame them for GPU shortages and high prices is just misinformation

Still plenty of fun to be had with new GOG mods, etc.

7900xtx is 24 gb, the 9700 pro has 32 gb as far as high end consumer/prosumer goes.

The AI Pro isn’t even availible! And 32GB is not enough anyway.

I think you underestimate how desperate ML (particularlly LLM) tinkerers are for VRAM; they’re working with ancient MI50s and weird stuff like that. If AMD had sold the 7900 with 48GB for a small markup (instead of $4000), AMD would have grassroots support everywhere because thats what devs would spend their time making work. And these are the same projects that trickle up to the MI325X and newer.

I was in this situation: I desperately wanted a non Nvidia ML card awhile back. I contribute little bugfixes and tweaks to backends all the time; but I ended up with a used 3090 because the 7900 XTX was just too expensive for ‘only’ 24GB + all the fuss.

There’s lingering bits of AMD support everywhere: vulkan backends to popular projects, unfixed rocm bugs in projects, stuff that works but isn’t optimized yet with tweaks; the problem is AMD isnt’ making it worth anyone’s while to maintain them when devs can (and do) just use 3090s or whatever.

They kind of took a baby step in this direction with the AI 395 (effectively a 110GB VRAM APU, albeit very compute light compared to a 7900/9700), but it’s still $2K, effectively mini PC only, and kinda too-little-too-late.