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  • Petra van CronenburgN Petra van Cronenburg

    @meganmariehart rubbish, especially young people.
    What's missing in the Fedi are local connections when you depend on real visitors. Hashtags don't work satisfactorily for this. Our groups are only boosting bots. One reason why the museum for which I unofficially do storytelling is officially on Facebook and Instagram: it is that that's where the real visitors are.
    I can only encourage people to focus on communication rather than numbers. But this requires people power within the institutions.

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    @meganmariehart I also recommend to follow accounts like @haubles or @mellifluousbox and @MastodonEngineering for informations about new developments especially at #mastodon

    #followFriday

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    • Megan Marie HartM Megan Marie Hart

      BOOST OR QUOTE THIS!

      Trying to find out how many people see a post without hashtags. Thank you!

      (edit: Why, you ask? Long thread coming up … 1/7)

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      @meganmariehart eh? What’s going on? What’s happened? Where am I? Do the plants need watering?

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      • AndreaA Andrea

        @NatureMC @meganmariehart
        Plus, I would like to add, it takes time to build your audience since you don't get any "help" by inbuilt algorithms. On the other hand, you don't need to try and understand how the algorithms work 😉
        I think we will see more people joining open platforms in the long run. When you're socialised with the numbers game, it can be hard to re-learn and focus on the interaction.

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        @andijah Indeed. The only algorithms on Mastodon are transparent by number of interactions in the Trending TL. This is how I discovered Megan's post.

        What many externs can't imagine: to get away from the algorithm driven big platforms feels like training to become sober. And then happens the wonder when you feel completely liberated, you can finally talk about your own topics again. Without fear to get shadowbanned or silenced for a word like climate change or diversity.

        @meganmariehart

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        • Megan Marie HartM Megan Marie Hart

          (Nobody actually asked why, but I imagine someone must have thought it.) Curiosity is one reason, the other is a recent offline discussion about whether we are hindering a more wide spread adoption of the Fediverse because we dislike advertisements. It’s possible that brands and “influencer”-type people aren’t getting the kick they’re used to from the Fediverse because there are no metrics showing how many people have seen a post. Perhaps it’s different with your own instance – I don’t know!
          2/7

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          @meganmariehart
          One of the many reasons I like Mastodon is that there are no brands and influencers. I follow people who share my interests. Sure they have an influence and sometimes someone will advise I use/don't use a particular product but that's based on their own experience not the £$ they are being paid. If any professional influencers do show up on my timeline they'll be blocked.

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          • Petra van CronenburgN Petra van Cronenburg

            @andijah Indeed. The only algorithms on Mastodon are transparent by number of interactions in the Trending TL. This is how I discovered Megan's post.

            What many externs can't imagine: to get away from the algorithm driven big platforms feels like training to become sober. And then happens the wonder when you feel completely liberated, you can finally talk about your own topics again. Without fear to get shadowbanned or silenced for a word like climate change or diversity.

            @meganmariehart

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            @NatureMC and, in case you're able to run your own instance, no one can take away your "playground". @meganmariehart

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            • Megan Marie HartM Megan Marie Hart

              BOOST OR QUOTE THIS!

              Trying to find out how many people see a post without hashtags. Thank you!

              (edit: Why, you ask? Long thread coming up … 1/7)

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              RE: https://mastodon.social/@meganmariehart/116044953904582813

              @meganmariehart never "quote"d before. Thanks.

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              • AndreaA Andrea

                @NatureMC and, in case you're able to run your own instance, no one can take away your "playground". @meganmariehart

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                @andijah Indeed. But in my experience, social media teams in many organisations are completely overwhelmed at first – it's a hurdle. That's why I always recommend: get there first, then get communicating. And once you have the technical know-how and capacity, you can build something of your own. Unfortunately, most teams these days are paid very poorly to make the minimum only.

                @meganmariehart

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                • Petra van CronenburgN Petra van Cronenburg

                  @andijah Indeed. But in my experience, social media teams in many organisations are completely overwhelmed at first – it's a hurdle. That's why I always recommend: get there first, then get communicating. And once you have the technical know-how and capacity, you can build something of your own. Unfortunately, most teams these days are paid very poorly to make the minimum only.

                  @meganmariehart

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                  @NatureMC by the way, one of the "best" examples how a company can make use of the fediverse is "Andreas Bürsten GmbH" - they don't try to sell you stuff, but they sell stuff by just being approachable and communicating. Don't want to @ them, they're getting enough "spam" from me anyway following my little song. @meganmariehart

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                  • Megan Marie HartM Megan Marie Hart

                    BOOST OR QUOTE THIS!

                    Trying to find out how many people see a post without hashtags. Thank you!

                    (edit: Why, you ask? Long thread coming up … 1/7)

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                    @meganmariehart That's a great question! It's interesting to see how different strategies impact reach. I'm really curious about your findings—what have you noticed so far? 😊

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                    • Megan Marie HartM Megan Marie Hart

                      (Nobody actually asked why, but I imagine someone must have thought it.) Curiosity is one reason, the other is a recent offline discussion about whether we are hindering a more wide spread adoption of the Fediverse because we dislike advertisements. It’s possible that brands and “influencer”-type people aren’t getting the kick they’re used to from the Fediverse because there are no metrics showing how many people have seen a post. Perhaps it’s different with your own instance – I don’t know!
                      2/7

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                      @meganmariehart Or maybe they just can't monetize their drivel?

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                      • Ian K TindaleU Ian K Tindale

                        @meganmariehart eh? What’s going on? What’s happened? Where am I? Do the plants need watering?

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                        @u0421793 @meganmariehart

                        Yes, of course the "plants" need watering...

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                        • AndreaA Andrea

                          @NatureMC by the way, one of the "best" examples how a company can make use of the fediverse is "Andreas Bürsten GmbH" - they don't try to sell you stuff, but they sell stuff by just being approachable and communicating. Don't want to @ them, they're getting enough "spam" from me anyway following my little song. @meganmariehart

                          Petra van CronenburgN This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @andijah 👍 Good example!

                          @meganmariehart

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                          • Marcos DioneM Marcos Dione

                            @meganmariehart I once run an experiment similar to yours. I asked people to boost a toot with a URL to a webserver I controlled, no hashtags either. It got <3k boosts. Yours will probably get similar numbers. At that point, IIRC, the Fedi (or was it just Mastodon?) was ~2M accounts, so it reached ~15% of the net. I wrote abut it here:

                            The mastodon effect: meta discussion

                            Yesterday1 I did something that I don't know how to qualify. At the beginning I was just playing a silly thing where I registered a new domain on a dynamic domain service. I set up Apache on my home s

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                            .:: Marcos Dione/StyXman's glob ::. (www.grulic.org.ar)

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                            @mdione I've just finished reading your blog post. Very cool, I wish I had read this before making my notifications useless (and they are now!) It seems that the Fediverse is not the best place for spontaneous experiments! I’m not sure if the idea was so bad that I should delete the post, or just wait! Think I’ll wait

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                            • André MenrathL André Menrath

                              @meganmariehart Many theaters have websites that run via the software WordPress. All they have to do is install a plugin (and to take 10 minutes reviewing the settings) and their website is connected to the Fediverse. Even less work.

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                              @linos

                              True, wordpress addon is the easiest way to join the fediverse.

                              There are already hosting services that do the technical back end install and maintenance. Owning a domain, with a few clicks anyone can host their own mastodon instance (for fans and paid subscribers), friendica for own complex postings and attention to subscribers, peerTube for video and audio or castoPod for podCasts, to mention a few.
                              The main detail:
                              Your domain, your hosting your data and copyright!

                              @meganmariehart

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                              • Megan Marie HartM Megan Marie Hart

                                … to demonstrate that Fediverse posts are worth the time and effort. Perhaps there is also an argument for a feature request: maybe there should be audience metrics for toots?! Though I imagine that could be difficult due to Federation. Again, I have no idea if one already gets numbers and insight by running an instance.)

                                Perhaps we can move beyond numbers in the long run, but for now, I fear people enjoy them even if they gain nothing from them. Kinda like a game highscore, I suppose.

                                7/7

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                                @meganmariehart I currently have a reel on IG that has gotten 270K likes. I didn't create it. Someone on mastodon posted it, I downloaded the video, and reposted it there. I feel no great achievement with the numbers, but it's fun to watch it tick up and up and up. My other engagement hasn't changed much. A few hundred followers who generally don't respond to my daily posts, no more.

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                                • John SextonD John Sexton

                                  @u0421793 @meganmariehart

                                  Yes, of course the "plants" need watering...

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                                  @diverdutch @meganmariehart

                                  “It sounds like just as though you're describing some form of super carrot.”
                                  “That's nearly right. This carrot, as you call it, has constructed an aircraft capable of flying some millions of miles through space propelled by a force as yet unknown to us.”

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                                  • Vsevolod PopovS Vsevolod Popov

                                    @meganmariehart I never use hashtags on Mastodon since I forgot that they were used in Twitter. They are not used in Telegram. In case of Russian mastodon there are 2 bots that boost your posts if they are written in russian. I have no idea how they are boosted if they are written in English and how, let's say, a person would find somebody to follow in Mastodon if he only registered and wants to find something to read and interact with.

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                                    @Sevapopov @meganmariehart I use hashtags because I and others follow them to find specific content. Some people block things like the name of the president to avoid seeing it. They are my favorite tool.

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                                    • Megan Marie HartM Megan Marie Hart

                                      @AvacadoAvenger I figured as much. I'm just trying to gauge the size of the ballpark. Thank you!

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                                      @meganmariehart @AvacadoAvenger nor is it easy to qualify. Does the reader read the entire post, or just the first few words? Do they give it some thought, or dismiss it as irrelevant/uninteresting? Is the reader mindlessly scrolling, partially or fully engaged?

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                                      • Patrick GeorgiP Patrick Georgi

                                        @meganmariehart You're posting links to the shows, and you seem to be reasonably well connected on the Fediverse - you could pick one to leave out (together with the theatre's media team) and they could check their analysis tools to see how much of a dent that makes to website traffic.

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                                        @patrick Yeah. That would have been the way to do it if I was smart. Oh well, what's done is done. Thanks! 😸

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                                        • Megan Marie HartM Megan Marie Hart

                                          … and opera is primarily a live art form, so its market share is so small as to be essentially unmeasurable. I never bothered to find out how many people I reach vs how many interactions a post gets. I really couldn’t care less!) Brands and “Influencer”-minded people, even people just used to commercial socials testing the fediverse might feel like it is not working for them and leave again, so I was wondering about the *potential* reach of a toot.
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                                          @meganmariehart I'm a novelist. I enjoy Mastodon as a water cooler experience with people in my various communities, with hastags being useful. Not interested in trying to flog my books here, or seeing any others who do so.

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