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It turns out that fungus growing termites sometimes cultivate Termitomyces titanicus.

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  • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

    It turns out that fungus growing termites sometimes cultivate Termitomyces titanicus. This is an excellent scientific name.

    CORRECTION:
    I assumed they had to work like ants. Wrong! (A fruiting body would only emerge from a dead ant colony not so with these termites) Something about macrotermitinaes nuptial flights stimulates mushroom fruiting. (!) They get covered in pink spores.

    And you can eat it!

    Hence the species name.

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    myrmepropagandist
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    I've been reading about this mushroom and everyone says it's *really* delicious. But, you just need to luck out to try it. It's not really possible to cultivate it.

    When a termite colony has a nuptial flight you may get a few to share with the town.

    (corrected the reason for fruiting, which is different than in leaf cutting ants. )

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    • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

      I've been reading about this mushroom and everyone says it's *really* delicious. But, you just need to luck out to try it. It's not really possible to cultivate it.

      When a termite colony has a nuptial flight you may get a few to share with the town.

      (corrected the reason for fruiting, which is different than in leaf cutting ants. )

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      dstu
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      @futurebird ...this suggests a fictitious future setting where farmers raise insect colonies not because the insects make an excellent source of protein, but because their agriculture turns out to produce great food for us, too. (I mean, we already do this for honey, right?)

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      • dstuT dstu

        @futurebird ...this suggests a fictitious future setting where farmers raise insect colonies not because the insects make an excellent source of protein, but because their agriculture turns out to produce great food for us, too. (I mean, we already do this for honey, right?)

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        myrmepropagandist
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        @trurl

        We kind of do that with old oak forests and truffles to some degree already.

        Termites eat rotting wood, they might be able to be part of a composing operation and you get mushrooms as a side benefit?

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        • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

          It turns out that fungus growing termites sometimes cultivate Termitomyces titanicus. This is an excellent scientific name.

          CORRECTION:
          I assumed they had to work like ants. Wrong! (A fruiting body would only emerge from a dead ant colony not so with these termites) Something about macrotermitinaes nuptial flights stimulates mushroom fruiting. (!) They get covered in pink spores.

          And you can eat it!

          Hence the species name.

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          millennial falcon
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          @futurebird amazing.

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          • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

            It turns out that fungus growing termites sometimes cultivate Termitomyces titanicus. This is an excellent scientific name.

            CORRECTION:
            I assumed they had to work like ants. Wrong! (A fruiting body would only emerge from a dead ant colony not so with these termites) Something about macrotermitinaes nuptial flights stimulates mushroom fruiting. (!) They get covered in pink spores.

            And you can eat it!

            Hence the species name.

            myrmepropagandistF This user is from outside of this forum
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            myrmepropagandist
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            This is why the mushrooms are so huge. So they can dust the entire flock of winged males and females with the spores they will need for their new colony. Like throwing rice at a wedding i guess?

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            • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

              @PetraOleum

              It's never really found just living on its own without ants to take care of it?

              Ants keep it clean, set the correct humidity, feed it plant matter...

              In fact, many antkeepers have tried to farm it (so they have extra fungi for their pet ants) and it's basically been impossible for people to do it, even with clean rooms, carefully cut leaves and humidity chambers.

              It's totally dependent on ants.

              Now... could it maybe float as spores and join an existing ant colony? Maybe? IDK

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              @futurebird @PetraOleum huh, a totally domesticated crop that isn't cultivated by humans

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              • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                The fungi farmed by ants (Leucoagaricus gongylophorus) also produces mushrooms when their colonies die out. This fungi can't survive without the ants and the ants propagate it by carrying it with them when they found new nests:

                So what is the purpose of the mushrooms?

                Is it just a hold-over from the days before the fungi was dependent on ants?

                I've been trying to find out if you can eat the ones that grow on old ant nests.

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                myrmepropagandist (@futurebird@sauropods.win)

                Attached: 1 image I had NO IDEA that Atta fungus could fruit. Can people eat it? The ants have optimized the fungus for protein, sugars, amino acids. It's a super food for ants, which might not sound relevant to people, but humans & ants have a lot in common when it comes to diet. We both need high calorie density foods. The typical ant diet of insects & sugars is pretty nutritious. Probably not what we'd call tasty. I really need some mushroom expert to find out if we can eat that fungus. It's very special.

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                @hypha big fungi and fungi facts ^
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                • ᔅᑕᕐᐗᓪS ᔅᑕᕐᐗᓪ

                  @futurebird @PetraOleum huh, a totally domesticated crop that isn't cultivated by humans

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                  @futurebird @starwall ants are amazing, it is known

                  Are there any domesticated aphid species that can't live without their farmers, I wonder

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                  • ᔅᑕᕐᐗᓪS ᔅᑕᕐᐗᓪ

                    @futurebird @PetraOleum huh, a totally domesticated crop that isn't cultivated by humans

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                    @PetraOleum @starwall @futurebird Ants, for one type of bug, have been farming and ranching long before human beings arrived on this planet.
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                      @futurebird @starwall ants are amazing, it is known

                      Are there any domesticated aphid species that can't live without their farmers, I wonder

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                      @PetraOleum @starwall

                      Not aphids that I know of, but there is a species of scale insect that is deeply dependent on Acropyga who keeps them underground on plant roots. These ants are cryptic and carry a pregnant scale insect in their mandibles with them when they start a new colony.

                      Just a moment...

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                      • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                        @PetraOleum @starwall

                        Not aphids that I know of, but there is a species of scale insect that is deeply dependent on Acropyga who keeps them underground on plant roots. These ants are cryptic and carry a pregnant scale insect in their mandibles with them when they start a new colony.

                        Just a moment...

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                        (www.antwiki.org)

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                        @starwall @futurebird that's metal

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                        • PetraP Petra

                          @starwall @futurebird that's metal

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                          @PetraOleum @starwall

                          The scale insects are like cows ... they can't survive without the ants that keep them. And I guess they must be docile towards ants.

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                          • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                            I've been reading about this mushroom and everyone says it's *really* delicious. But, you just need to luck out to try it. It's not really possible to cultivate it.

                            When a termite colony has a nuptial flight you may get a few to share with the town.

                            (corrected the reason for fruiting, which is different than in leaf cutting ants. )

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                            @futurebird This is incredible. Nature has had a lot of time to try out different things, and this is a pretty lucky symbiosis!

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                            • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                              @PetraOleum @starwall

                              Not aphids that I know of, but there is a species of scale insect that is deeply dependent on Acropyga who keeps them underground on plant roots. These ants are cryptic and carry a pregnant scale insect in their mandibles with them when they start a new colony.

                              Just a moment...

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                              (www.antwiki.org)

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                              @futurebird I thought this was odd - ants aren’t allowed to look at antwiki?

                              Anyway, I went to antwiki partly to see if it would explain why they are called acropyga, which with my limited knowledge sounds like it means they have high butts.

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                              • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                                It turns out that fungus growing termites sometimes cultivate Termitomyces titanicus. This is an excellent scientific name.

                                CORRECTION:
                                I assumed they had to work like ants. Wrong! (A fruiting body would only emerge from a dead ant colony not so with these termites) Something about macrotermitinaes nuptial flights stimulates mushroom fruiting. (!) They get covered in pink spores.

                                And you can eat it!

                                Hence the species name.

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                                @futurebird I'm sure my mum, who grew up in Zambia, called those Borwa mushrooms. My memory may be off on the name. She said they were delicious and much prized.

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                                • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                                  It turns out that fungus growing termites sometimes cultivate Termitomyces titanicus. This is an excellent scientific name.

                                  CORRECTION:
                                  I assumed they had to work like ants. Wrong! (A fruiting body would only emerge from a dead ant colony not so with these termites) Something about macrotermitinaes nuptial flights stimulates mushroom fruiting. (!) They get covered in pink spores.

                                  And you can eat it!

                                  Hence the species name.

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                                  @futurebird desde vitaly, podemos hacer software con AI que reconozca de que hongo se trata el de la foto para saber si es uno comestible o no e incluso advertir de la probabilidad de variantes venenosas

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