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Study finds bullies have more children than non-bullies

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  • N NoneOfUrBusiness

    Daily reminder that correlation isn't all or nothing.

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    happyskullsplitter@lemmy.world
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    Daily reminder for me not to forget the sarcasm tag

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    • S sunzu2

      having children is a social norm and expectation that is expected to be followed

      Global Fertility rates tell a different story

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      dengalicious@lemmygrad.ml
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      No, it doesn’t. At all. Having children is definitely the norm, with the average woman having over 2 children across the world right now.

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      • G godiganbabay@ponder.cat

        I didn't change the title, but without access to the original article, it seems like a correlation not causation.

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        contramuffin@lemmy.world
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        The study seems to mention that the bullies have children at an earlier age. I'd be willing to guess that the relation between having more children and bullying is purely correlative and has no direct impact. Instead, it seems significantly more likely that impulsiveness drives both bullying behavior and unsafe sex, which then leads to more children.

        It seems somewhat odd to me that, instead of addressing possible mechanisms of this correlation, the authors talk about how bullying is an evolutionary trait to pass on genes.

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        • C contramuffin@lemmy.world

          The study seems to mention that the bullies have children at an earlier age. I'd be willing to guess that the relation between having more children and bullying is purely correlative and has no direct impact. Instead, it seems significantly more likely that impulsiveness drives both bullying behavior and unsafe sex, which then leads to more children.

          It seems somewhat odd to me that, instead of addressing possible mechanisms of this correlation, the authors talk about how bullying is an evolutionary trait to pass on genes.

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          godiganbabay@ponder.cat
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          It seems somewhat odd to me that, instead of addressing possible mechanisms of this correlation, the authors talk about how bullying is an evolutionary trait to pass on genes.

          Yeah, that's why I want to get my hands on the study. Maybe the authors did consider that but the article is misrepresenting the study.

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          • dumnezeroD dumnezero

            Is this evopsych bullshit?

            "This study shows us that bullying seems to be associated with some meaningful outcomes that help explain why kids do it," Volk says. "This isn't just 'broken kids' doing bad behavior; it's getting them important things that matter."

            Yeah, same as bandits.

            Volk says the results support the idea that adolescent bullying is, at least in part, an evolutionary adaptation that may help individuals pass on their genes to future generations.

            Yep, evopsych bullshit.

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            swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de
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            calling this evopsych is like calling freud the father of psychology

            this is just them saying something that they like the sound of, humans are fundamentally an extremely social species and there are way more things that go into passing on our genes than just having kids; being celibate and just raising the kids of your siblings is more efficient at spreading your genes.

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