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The Outer Worlds with ray tracing can't hit 60FPS at paltry 540p resolution with an RTX 5090 and 9800X3D - ray tracing 'performance' mirrors Borderlands 4 fiasco

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  • C cm0002@lemmy.zip

    It’s a new day, and another badly-optimized AAA Unreal Engine 5 game has hit store shelves. A couple of YouTubers, including Daniel Owen, have discovered serious performance problems in The Outer Worlds 2 that almost mirror Borderlands 4’s atrocious launch day performance. One of the most problematic graphics settings is the game’s ray tracing mode, which prevents even AMD’s Ryzen 7 9800X3D gaming champ from achieving 60 FPS at resolutions well under 1080p.

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    muffi@programming.dev
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    Imagine if modern GPU’s were actually designed with gaming in mind…

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    • A ayyy@sh.itjust.works

      That’s…not true. I do have a fast card so I played with it on, but there were options to disable ray tracing and path tracing.

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      phlegmy@sh.itjust.works
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      That’s…not true. There’s no way to disable ray tracing in that game without modding it.

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      • recursive_recursionR recursive_recursion

        Why play Outer Worlds when you can play:

        • Outer Wilds

        Image of Outer Wilds

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        tempest@lemmy.ca
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        It’s great but I threw in the towel after a few hours if play. I’ve never played a game that so readily gave me car sickness.

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        • I isolox@lemmy.world

          As someone playing this on a 3080 with no major issues, just turn off ray tracing. The game really isn’t that bad once you turn it off.

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          frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          I have a 3080, too, and I have a feeling it’s going to be a perfectly good card for a long, long time.

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          • E evil_shrubbery@thelemmy.club

            Y’all member the time when hardware demanding games meant awesome graphics?

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            Jerkface (any/all)
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            #54

            I remember texture mapped graphics on a 6502.

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            • T tempest@lemmy.ca

              It’s great but I threw in the towel after a few hours if play. I’ve never played a game that so readily gave me car sickness.

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              mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              Adding a pip to the center of the screen helps reduce motion sickness. I hadn’t experienced it until I installed a Skyrim mod that removed the reticle for most things. Suddenly I found myself getting mildly motion sick unless I was constantly un-hiding the reticle.

              Worth noting that some monitors have an option to manually add a pip. It’s meant for shooters when you’re meant to zoom in instead of hip firing, but it also works to reduce motion sickness.

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              • M muffi@programming.dev

                Imagine if modern GPU’s were actually designed with gaming in mind…

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                qwerty@discuss.tchncs.de
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                #56

                Imagine if modern games were designed with gaming in mind.

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                • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 K 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮

                  Does raytracing even make the game look noticeably cooler, anyway?

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                  mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                  No, it’s actually broken entirely and makes the game look worse. That’s why so many people are confused about why they shipped it. Like why not hide the option until it is ready to patch in?

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                  • A ssillyssadass

                    Am I the only one who doesn’t need real-time raytraced lighting? Show off the skills of your artists with some fancy pre-baked stuff instead.

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                    nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                    im trying to get smoother clip art looking anime cock textures into rimworld

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                    • C corngood@lemmy.ml

                      I got these confused for the longest time and finally played Outer Wilds earlier this year. It’s a masterpiece

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                      blackmist@feddit.uk
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                      #59

                      And the DLC is just as good as the base game.

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                      • N nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                        im trying to get smoother clip art looking anime cock textures into rimworld

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                        cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                        #60

                        The hero we need deserve asked for and subscribe to on patreon

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                        • W winkerjadams@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                          Or dare I say make a good game instead of just a shiny one

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                          cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                          #61

                          To be fair this time it’s obsidian. That is kind of their whole deal.

                          That and horrible game breaking bugs. If the plot is absolute fire, and also it crashes every five seconds, this is on-brand.

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                          • Q qwerty@discuss.tchncs.de

                            Imagine if modern games were designed with gaming in mind.

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                            cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                            UE used to be, before they started chasing the military sector super hard.

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                            • M mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                              Adding a pip to the center of the screen helps reduce motion sickness. I hadn’t experienced it until I installed a Skyrim mod that removed the reticle for most things. Suddenly I found myself getting mildly motion sick unless I was constantly un-hiding the reticle.

                              Worth noting that some monitors have an option to manually add a pip. It’s meant for shooters when you’re meant to zoom in instead of hip firing, but it also works to reduce motion sickness.

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                              tempest@lemmy.ca
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                              Huh, maybe I’ll give it a try, thanks for the tip

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                              • C cm0002@lemmy.zip

                                It’s a new day, and another badly-optimized AAA Unreal Engine 5 game has hit store shelves. A couple of YouTubers, including Daniel Owen, have discovered serious performance problems in The Outer Worlds 2 that almost mirror Borderlands 4’s atrocious launch day performance. One of the most problematic graphics settings is the game’s ray tracing mode, which prevents even AMD’s Ryzen 7 9800X3D gaming champ from achieving 60 FPS at resolutions well under 1080p.

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                                AnimalsDream
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                                I’ll care about ray tracing if it ever gets efficient enough to run at 60+ fps on an entry-level apu.

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                                • C cm0002@lemmy.zip

                                  It’s a new day, and another badly-optimized AAA Unreal Engine 5 game has hit store shelves. A couple of YouTubers, including Daniel Owen, have discovered serious performance problems in The Outer Worlds 2 that almost mirror Borderlands 4’s atrocious launch day performance. One of the most problematic graphics settings is the game’s ray tracing mode, which prevents even AMD’s Ryzen 7 9800X3D gaming champ from achieving 60 FPS at resolutions well under 1080p.

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                                  savethetuahawk@lemmy.ca
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                                  does anyone actually care about ray tracing?

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                                  • S savethetuahawk@lemmy.ca

                                    does anyone actually care about ray tracing?

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                                    dasus@lemmy.world
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                                    #66

                                    I mean, it’s not necessary, but neither are HD resolutions or high framerates.

                                    It has seemed every beautiful in some things.

                                    It’s not necessary, but like, lots of things aren’t. The tech in itself isn’t horrible, it’s just horrible usecases which make it bad. Even if most usecases are horrible. Some aren’t.

                                    Edit for instance we have much the same power computers with my brother, aside from me having an outdated GPU. Last year when we played HP Legacy for a bit, I would say that his was far prettier when utilising Ray tracing, and the whole game is a sort of feast of aesthetics, so. Although his rig wasn’t potent enough to have great framerates, so playing was still better for him as well without Ray tracing. But the scenery without much action still had good framerares so we saw rhe difference. Idk perhaps it will never be good but

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                                    • A atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works

                                      I was so excited when I finally had a machine that could run Crysis at full graphics settings.

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                                      beardedgingerwonder@feddit.uk
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                                      Only gamers get that joke

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                                      • H holytimes@sh.itjust.works

                                        Some day we will have a cpu, gpu and a rtu. Need me a dedicated add in ray tracing card!

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                                        femcatboy_cuddler@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                                        Flashback to physX cards

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                                        • S savethetuahawk@lemmy.ca

                                          does anyone actually care about ray tracing?

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                                          canadiancorhen@lemmy.ca
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                                          Yea, didn’t care about ray tracing until I played Control, and that game is gorgeous with it, made me appreciate it when it’s well Implemented into a game

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