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An important PSA for people who are active on #Bluesky and who, upon hearing that the ICE account was officially verified, are saying: "I will just block it."

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  • stux :stux_santa:S stux :stux_santa:

    @NatureMC @_elena But if you logout, you can still view the profile and posts right?

    It wouldn’t make sense otherwise

    Petra van CronenburgN This user is from outside of this forum
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    wrote last edited by
    #61

    @stux I just tested it. Yes, you are right: I have to search for a blocked account on Bsky and then I can read it. They don't have this login-wall like other platforms.
    Thanks, I learnt something new!

    @_elena

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    • SheepieB Sheepie

      @_elena I will never understand this decision. I’ve seen people say it’s just due to how ATProtocol works. But surely there’s a way they could have implemented blocks and have them private.

      Franklin Delano StalloneF This user is from outside of this forum
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      #62

      @bastardsheep It’s always felt like a path to bullying people. Either by giving grief to people for who is in their block list or creating awfully named lists and putting people in it. In the past I’ve seen list names that feel like it’s named in such a way they hope the people in the list see it.

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      • Franklin Delano StalloneF Franklin Delano Stallone

        @bastardsheep It’s always felt like a path to bullying people. Either by giving grief to people for who is in their block list or creating awfully named lists and putting people in it. In the past I’ve seen list names that feel like it’s named in such a way they hope the people in the list see it.

        Franklin Delano StalloneF This user is from outside of this forum
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        wrote last edited by
        #63

        @bastardsheep As far as I know I’m not on a list so who knows maybe when you’re added you’re notified. I would not know.

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        • Sebastian LasseS Sebastian Lasse

          @_elena

          strongly disagree;

          "The safest bet" is to leave bluesky and create a fedi instance with the software of your choice.

          wink smiley.

          Elena Rossini ⁂_ This user is from outside of this forum
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          #64

          @sl007 I fundamentally agree with you and that’s why I stopped using Bluesky. But I’m trying not to be too divisive and not to alienate people who enjoy it. Otherwise they will dismiss everything I ever say about Bluesky, warnings and whatnot 😢

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          • Franklin Delano StalloneF Franklin Delano Stallone

            @bastardsheep As far as I know I’m not on a list so who knows maybe when you’re added you’re notified. I would not know.

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            #65

            @fds I’ve seen a lot of block shaming too. It’s such a bad decision.

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            • Petra van CronenburgN Petra van Cronenburg

              @stux I just tested it. Yes, you are right: I have to search for a blocked account on Bsky and then I can read it. They don't have this login-wall like other platforms.
              Thanks, I learnt something new!

              @_elena

              stux :stux_santa:S This user is from outside of this forum
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              #66

              @NatureMC @_elena Yup! And with Mastodon and other Fedi software (most) you could ‘hide’ it behind a auth check

              Not sure why they do it that way though

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              • Elena Rossini ⁂_ Elena Rossini ⁂

                An important PSA for people who are active on #Bluesky and who, upon hearing that the ICE account was officially verified, are saying: "I will just block it."

                Blocking on Bluesky is NOT PRIVATE: it's very easy to see who is blocking any account by visiting sites that list that information.

                I took a screenshot from https://clearsky.app, listing all the accounts that are blocking ICE (I pixelated avatars and usernames for privacy purposes).

                The safest bet is to mute (that info is private) 😫

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                #67

                @_elena Really sorry and disappointed that so many still stay on that shitty platform. I actively refuse to boost anything from bluesky. Jack Dorsey's a shitbag Nazi fellater just like Musk Zuck all of them.

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                • Elena Rossini ⁂_ Elena Rossini ⁂

                  @sloanlance not just ICE but also 4Chan-minded bad actors that may harass users blocking gov accounts

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                  #68

                  @_elena @sloanlance Block lists seem to damp that down, at least so far. I'm subscribed to several. Also, given the number of people blocking ICE, and other government sites, harassers will be busy.

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                  • Elena Rossini ⁂_ Elena Rossini ⁂

                    An important PSA for people who are active on #Bluesky and who, upon hearing that the ICE account was officially verified, are saying: "I will just block it."

                    Blocking on Bluesky is NOT PRIVATE: it's very easy to see who is blocking any account by visiting sites that list that information.

                    I took a screenshot from https://clearsky.app, listing all the accounts that are blocking ICE (I pixelated avatars and usernames for privacy purposes).

                    The safest bet is to mute (that info is private) 😫

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                    wrote last edited by
                    #69

                    @_elena @pluralistic I found I had already blocked it through one of the lists I’m subscribed to.

                    Anyway, blocking the gestapo is the minor or the sins they would find in my TL.

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                    • Elena Rossini ⁂_ Elena Rossini ⁂

                      An important PSA for people who are active on #Bluesky and who, upon hearing that the ICE account was officially verified, are saying: "I will just block it."

                      Blocking on Bluesky is NOT PRIVATE: it's very easy to see who is blocking any account by visiting sites that list that information.

                      I took a screenshot from https://clearsky.app, listing all the accounts that are blocking ICE (I pixelated avatars and usernames for privacy purposes).

                      The safest bet is to mute (that info is private) 😫

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                      Don Hawkins - W7DAHD This user is from outside of this forum
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                      wrote last edited by
                      #70

                      @_elena the best bet is to delete bluesky.

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                      • EyeG Eye

                        @_elena @hyperreal

                        I closed my account there quite a while back but only de-bridged today. I'm sad to no longer see posts from certain people I followed but overall I feel a whole lot better. 👍

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                        #71

                        @grb090423 @_elena @hyperreal I’m thinking I need to do this too.

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                        • Elena Rossini ⁂_ Elena Rossini ⁂

                          @stux indeed. it's like a perfect honeypot if you think about it

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                          #72

                          @_elena It’s kinda scrary, with the right tools one can get a lot of info on people this way

                          Maybe not direct but many indirect can also lead to that I guess

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                          • Don Hawkins - W7DAHD Don Hawkins - W7DAH

                            @_elena the best bet is to delete bluesky.

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                            #73

                            @donhawkins I would recommend keeping the account inactive / deleting the app instead to avoid username squatting.

                            I learned the hard way with X - I used Twitter for 14 years and just mere days after deleting 3 accounts, my usernames were immediately seized 😭

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                            • Elena Rossini ⁂_ Elena Rossini ⁂

                              An important PSA for people who are active on #Bluesky and who, upon hearing that the ICE account was officially verified, are saying: "I will just block it."

                              Blocking on Bluesky is NOT PRIVATE: it's very easy to see who is blocking any account by visiting sites that list that information.

                              I took a screenshot from https://clearsky.app, listing all the accounts that are blocking ICE (I pixelated avatars and usernames for privacy purposes).

                              The safest bet is to mute (that info is private) 😫

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                              #74

                              @_elena Deary me… a certain vice president is NOT popular on that platform.

                              The 24h list is handy if you want a list of accounts to add to your blocklist. I couldn't care less if they see me blocking them, I'm not one of their citizens and not on their soil.

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                              • stux :stux_santa:S stux :stux_santa:

                                @_elena It’s kinda scrary, with the right tools one can get a lot of info on people this way

                                Maybe not direct but many indirect can also lead to that I guess

                                AprazethA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @stux @_elena

                                People would be genuinely surprised how easy that is to trace things back to them even with the "pseudonymized data". Sure it doesn't contain your name, but it still details (for example)

                                - Age range
                                - Rough location
                                - Interests
                                - Known associations

                                Guess how trivial it becomes to correlate that back to an individual? Age range and rough location are known data-points for governments (census) soooo, yeah. Easy-peasy unfortunately

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