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Oh, good: Discord's age verification rollout has ties to Palantir co-founder and panopticon architect Peter Thiel

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  • Mugita SokioM Mugita Sokio

    There’s this open-source, but centralized, one that doesn’t allow NSFW (so as to not have to deal with age verification):

    Nerimity

    Nerimity is an open source, modern and sleek chat app made for everyone with features such as the ability to make servers, a lot of customization and a lot more!

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    (nerimity.com)

    I have an account there, but I’m not active (my producer, Neigsendoig [he goes by Sendo on there] is). It’s also Free Software, like Movim is.

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    ProdigalFrog
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    Hm, at least on their homepage, they don’t mention the ability to do group video calls or screen sharing, do you know if it’s a complete replacement for Discord’s feature set? The reason I recommend Movim specifically is that the only features its missing compared to discord are the rooms, and it cannot yet share application audio when screen sharing (but should come later).

    Movim is also built on the battle proven XMPP framework, which also allows for easy self hosting and access to the wider existing XMPP community.

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      CubitOom
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      Peter Theil is also JD Vance’s mentor

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      • ProdigalFrogP ProdigalFrog

        Hm, at least on their homepage, they don’t mention the ability to do group video calls or screen sharing, do you know if it’s a complete replacement for Discord’s feature set? The reason I recommend Movim specifically is that the only features its missing compared to discord are the rooms, and it cannot yet share application audio when screen sharing (but should come later).

        Movim is also built on the battle proven XMPP framework, which also allows for easy self hosting and access to the wider existing XMPP community.

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        There are some sort of group calls, both video and audio, but it’s mainly a one-man project with contributions by those savvy enough in the community.

        It’s essentially a mixture of features from Discord, Stoat (Revolt), and Guilded, but made in their own unique way.

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          marine_mustang@sh.itjust.works
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          Abandon ship!

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            Peter Theil is also JD Vance’s mentor

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            willy@sh.itjust.works
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            kinda weird.

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            • Mugita SokioM Mugita Sokio

              There are some sort of group calls, both video and audio, but it’s mainly a one-man project with contributions by those savvy enough in the community.

              It’s essentially a mixture of features from Discord, Stoat (Revolt), and Guilded, but made in their own unique way.

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              It seems like a cool little project, and I appreciate that it’s GPL licensed, but I’m afraid without federation, it can’t quite fulfill the same role that Discord does, as they would need a sudden dramatic increase of funding to be able to support a large userbase on a centralized server, and having another centralized point of failure is really inadvisable, IMO. A big reason for Lemmy/piefed’s success is distributing resource useage across multiple independent servers, and that model translates quite well to a Discord like app too.

              The project is also so new (11 months old) that it hasn’t had adequate time to prove that the codebase could scale to a high user count. It’s in a similar position to Fluxer.app, which is another GPL Discord clone, but one that is open to adding in federation at a later date.

              I also think XMPP’s encryption abilities are pretty essential going forward, as governments and corporations are becoming more invasive into monitoring our communications.

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                Pratai
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                Watch how many people still keep using this trash.

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                  sendmephotos@lemmy.world
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                  Honestly I’ll just go back to IRC.

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                    kinda weird.

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                    frunch@lemmy.world
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                    I can’t think of a much weirder duo, tbh

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                      einlander@lemmy.world
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                      Why would I trust these specific old men with my data and to keep kids safe?

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                        matlag
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                        Peter Thiel is mentioned over 2000 times in the Epstein files, so now you should wonder if the verification is about acquiring adults data or identifying unattended kids usernames…

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                          Watch how many people still keep using this trash.

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                          spiderhamster@midwest.social
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                          For real. I’ve provided a matrix instance for people to test to see if it suits their needs and to stress test it to make sure it’s reliable at the scale we need. So far it’s been great for two of us but I’m afraid the rest are all going to join at the same time, the server won’t be able to handle the number of people doing voice and video chats and then they’ll hate the whole thing. Other thing they might do is join the main Matrix instance and see how slow it is. That’s almost worse.

                          I’m sorry, you didn’t ask for all this info. You said a thing and it made me want to get some stuff off my chest. I almost posted more but deleted it. Then I wrote more and deleted that. I’m just gonna stop now but I feel better now that I’ve typed some things at a stranger on the internet that I agree with. It’s almost like a virtual hug. Hope you felt it too 😄

                          Yeah, I’ve been drinking. It’s Friday somewhere.

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                            Watch how many people still keep using this trash.

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                            xtr0n@sh.itjust.works
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                            People still use fucking Twitter. I hope people will choose alternatives but I’m not holding my breath.

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                              Peter Theil is also JD Vance’s mentor

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                              tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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                              you mean his puppet master. just like he hides behind his puppets that control LOTR themed companies.

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                                Peter Thiel is mentioned over 2000 times in the Epstein files, so now you should wonder if the verification is about acquiring adults data or identifying unattended kids usernames…

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                                tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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                                gawker couldve been up to something about thiels businesses pratices before they got sued to the grown. He is used being outed as a gay as a pretense to try to shut them down prior to hogans lawsuit.

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                                • ProdigalFrogP ProdigalFrog

                                  The fascist noose is tightening the world over thanks to proprietary big tech. We have to escape now while we can to open-source alternatives.

                                  Currently the best private (encrypted) and federated Discord alternative is Movim, which I highly recommend people switch to as soon as possible (the Dev is currently working on discord-like channels with rooms).

                                  For a more complete guide to swapping proprietary apps for safe open-source ones, I suggest referring to this post: https://slrpnk.net/post/23012609

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                                  thethrilloftime69
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                                  Dude I just spent 10 mins trying to get the thing to let me make an account. It kept saying my username didn’t fit the format requirements, but then didn’t tell me what the format requirements were.

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                                    Honestly I’ll just go back to IRC.

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                                    pedz@lemmy.ca
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                                    Check out The Lounge or Convos if you are willing to use a web client. They display history, images on channels, allow uploads, preview URLs and have push notifications.

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                                    • ProdigalFrogP ProdigalFrog

                                      The fascist noose is tightening the world over thanks to proprietary big tech. We have to escape now while we can to open-source alternatives.

                                      Currently the best private (encrypted) and federated Discord alternative is Movim, which I highly recommend people switch to as soon as possible (the Dev is currently working on discord-like channels with rooms).

                                      For a more complete guide to swapping proprietary apps for safe open-source ones, I suggest referring to this post: https://slrpnk.net/post/23012609

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                                      cafefrog@lemmy.cafe
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                                      Alternative link for the guide, since slrpnk is currently down for a bit.

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                                      • S sendmephotos@lemmy.world

                                        Honestly I’ll just go back to IRC.

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                                        chasteinsect@programming.dev
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                                        What was the main problem that eventually made everyone move from it ? I remember back in my teen days it was Teamspeak, Skype and IRC. Somehow I got by with mostly Skype so don’t have much experience with it.

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                                          Peter Thiel is mentioned over 2000 times in the Epstein files, so now you should wonder if the verification is about acquiring adults data or identifying unattended kids usernames…

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                                          hector@lemmy.today
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                                          Maybe we should start an international boycott and divestment of every person with any ties to Epstein. Any ties, just because the administration blacked out the details and they tell us they only visited the rape island with their family to [insert non rapey reason:] we should boycott everything and everyone involved.

                                          Not just boycott and divest because it’s morally abhorrent, but also because they can’t be trusted. Someones, multitple parties, are holding information about them that could ruin them. They can weather that they were friends with Epstein, they can’t weather the details being released, pictures and video of them raping kids. Israel has the information, the president’s own fixers have it now too. Thiel might have it, (both the prez and thiel now have copies of all the information held by federal agencies that they exported with doge now too, you know it,) and russia might have some of it. Other oligarchs could have it, and the rich and connected could buy the information to use it if they wanted to.

                                          Bottom line we can’t trust anyone that’s compromised. And while a boycott and divestment of people involved might start out small, it would receive instant buy in from the rest of the world. Any company thiel is involved in needs to be boycotted, divested from. Any government hiring his company needs to lose our support.

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