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Gamers Are Reportedly Skipping GPU Upgrades Due to Soaring Prices — Paying Bills Takes Priority Over Chasing NVIDIA’s RTX 5090

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  • C cm0002@lemmy.world

    Well I am shocked, SHOCKED I say! Well, not that shocked.

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    baatliwala@lemmy.world
    wrote on last edited by
    #182

    Been hearing this for the past 3 years

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    • V vividspecter@lemm.ee

      It doesn’t help that the gains have been smaller, and the prices higher.

      I’ve got a RX 6800 I bought in 2020, and nothing but the 5090 is a significant upgrade, and I’m sure as fuck not paying that kind of money for a video card.

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      harxanimous@lemmy.today
      wrote on last edited by
      #183

      Well that depends on your definition of significant. Don’t get me wrong, the state of the GPU market is not consumer friendly, but even an RX 9070 provides over a 50% performance uplift over the RX 6800.

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      • A allemaniac@lemmy.world

        I’m sitting on a 3060 TI and waiting for the 40-series prices to drop further. Ain’t no universe where I would pay full price for the newest gens. I don’t need to render anything for work with my PC, so a 2-3 year old GPU will do just fine

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        warehouse@lemmy.ca
        wrote on last edited by
        #184

        I’m pretty sure that production of the 40 series has stopped. The 50 series uses the same node.

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        • C cm0002@lemmy.world

          Well I am shocked, SHOCKED I say! Well, not that shocked.

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          endlessnightmare@reddthat.com
          wrote on last edited by
          #185

          I don’t buy every generation and skip 1 if not 2. I have a 40xx series and will probably wait until the 70xx (I’m assumimg series naming here) before upgrading.

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          • C cm0002@lemmy.world

            Well I am shocked, SHOCKED I say! Well, not that shocked.

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            throwaway4669332255@lemmy.world
            wrote on last edited by
            #186

            IT litterally costs $3000

            Thats almost 4 time the cost of my 3090.

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            • F finitebanjo@lemmy.world

              Technically Intel is also releasing some cheapo GPUs in similar capability to nVidia but they all have the same manufacturers anyways.

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              critical_thinker@lemm.ee
              wrote on last edited by
              #187

              There’s major issues with those GPUs in some commonplace use cases and they have major scalping issues. Sure in some use cases there’s zero issues, but this aint like the early 2000s when there were many brands that all basically worked.

              Now you’re either nvidia with every feature, amd with most features (kinda like a store brand), or intel with major compatibility flaws with specific games because it’s technically a GPU.

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              • W werecat@lemmy.world

                But I wouldnt turn it on and actually play with it even if I could because I will always take the better performance.

                I’ve actually tried Path Tracing in CP2077 running at native Steam Deck resolution streamed to my Steam Deck OLED from my PC at max settings and it could do 30FPS locked fairly well (overlocked by 20% though). But the game looks absolutelly horrible in motion with it’s terrible LOD so no amount of RT or PT can save it. It looks dope for screenshots though. But that’s PT, RT is basically almost indistinguishable. And PT is many, many years away for it to be viable for majority of people to use.

                (The game reports W10 but it was Fedora42 actually)

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                DefederateLemmyMl
                wrote on last edited by
                #188

                But I wouldnt turn it on and actually play with it even if I could because I will always take the better performance.

                Depends. In Cyberpunk I can get 90-100fps on 1440p on ultra with raytracing on and FSR4 Quality (via Optiscaler). That is a very good experience IMO, to the point that I forget about “framerate” while playing.

                That’s Windows though, in Linux the raytracing performance is rather worse for some reason and it slips below the threshold of what I find noticeable, so I go for 1440p native.

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                • G gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works

                  Nvidia doesn’t really care about the high-end gamer demographic nearly as much as they used to, because it’s no longer their bread and butter. Nvidia’s cash cow at this point is supplying hardware for ML data centers. It’s an order of magnitude more lucrative than serving consumer + enthusiast market.

                  So my next card is probably gonna be an RX 9070XT.

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                  ameancow@lemmy.world
                  wrote on last edited by ameancow@lemmy.world
                  #189

                  even the RX9070 is running around $900 USD, I cannot fathom affording even state-of-the-art gaming from years ago at this point. I am still using a GTX1660 and playing games from years ago I never got around to and having a grand time. Most adults I know are in the same boat and either not even considering upgrading their PC or they’re playing their kid’s console games.

                  Every year we say “Gonna look into upgrading” but every year prices go up and wages stay the same (or disappear entirely as private-equity ravages the business world, digesting every company that isn’t also a private equity predator) and the prices of just living and eating are insane, so at this rate, a lot of us might start reading again.

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                  • C critical_thinker@lemm.ee

                    There’s major issues with those GPUs in some commonplace use cases and they have major scalping issues. Sure in some use cases there’s zero issues, but this aint like the early 2000s when there were many brands that all basically worked.

                    Now you’re either nvidia with every feature, amd with most features (kinda like a store brand), or intel with major compatibility flaws with specific games because it’s technically a GPU.

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                    finitebanjo@lemmy.world
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                    #190

                    I think patent laws and proprietary software supported by major OS have always had some impact, even the 90s, but yeah it’s definitely a poor state for the market to be this concentrated.

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                    • T throwaway4669332255@lemmy.world

                      IT litterally costs $3000

                      Thats almost 4 time the cost of my 3090.

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                      pr0sp3kt@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #191

                      Thats almost a year of work on my country lol…

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                      • C cm0002@lemmy.world

                        Well I am shocked, SHOCKED I say! Well, not that shocked.

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                        pr0sp3kt@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #192

                        Bah, AAA games aren’t interesting for me anymore. I like more indies nowadays, specially I am a fan of Doom-like games, I liked Selaco, Turbo-Overkill, I liked ghostrunner as well…

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                        • C cm0002@lemmy.world

                          Well I am shocked, SHOCKED I say! Well, not that shocked.

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                          bosht@lemmy.world
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #193

                          First: Nobody gives a shit about the ray tracing craze, like not really. It applies to a thin margin of games, and is an option easily turned off or avoided. Seeing as AAA games are most of the ones developing for it anyway, and seeing as most of those are utter shit, yeah I’m not buying into the craze and spending obnoxious amounts of money on it.

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                          • C cm0002@lemmy.world

                            Well I am shocked, SHOCKED I say! Well, not that shocked.

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                            Melllvar
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                            #194

                            The GTX1660 I bought in 2023 for $300 is still running fine.

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                            • C cm0002@lemmy.world

                              Well I am shocked, SHOCKED I say! Well, not that shocked.

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                              excral@feddit.org
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #195

                              For me it’s the GPU prices, stagnation of the technology (most performance gains come at the cost of stupid power draw) and importantly being fed up with AAA games. Most games I played recently were a couple years old, indie titles or a couple years old indie titles. And I don’t need a high powered graphics card for that. I’ve been playing far more on my steam deck than my desktop PC, despite the latter having significantly more powerful hardware. You can’t force fun through sheer hardware performance

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                              • A ameancow@lemmy.world

                                even the RX9070 is running around $900 USD, I cannot fathom affording even state-of-the-art gaming from years ago at this point. I am still using a GTX1660 and playing games from years ago I never got around to and having a grand time. Most adults I know are in the same boat and either not even considering upgrading their PC or they’re playing their kid’s console games.

                                Every year we say “Gonna look into upgrading” but every year prices go up and wages stay the same (or disappear entirely as private-equity ravages the business world, digesting every company that isn’t also a private equity predator) and the prices of just living and eating are insane, so at this rate, a lot of us might start reading again.

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                                jacksilver@lemmy.world
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                                #196

                                It makes me wonder if this will bring more people back to consoles. The library may be more limiting, but when a console costs less than just a gpu, itll be more tempting.

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                                • C cm0002@lemmy.world

                                  Well I am shocked, SHOCKED I say! Well, not that shocked.

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                                  mongostein@lemmy.ca
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                                  #197

                                  There’s so many games out there I’d like to play, but I’m an adult with responsibilities. I don’t need the newest game or gaming hardware because no matter how hard I try to catch up I never will, so I don’t bother to try and I always have something to play on my hardware.

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                                  • candyman337C candyman337

                                    It’s just because I’m not impressed, like the raster performance bump for 1440p was just not worth the price jump at all. On top of that they have manufacturing issues and issues with their stupid 12 pin connector? And all the shit on the business side not providing drivers to reviewers etc. Fuuucccckk all that man. I’m waiting until AMD gets a little better with ray tracing and switching to team red.

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                                    landedgentry@lemmy.zip
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                                    #198

                                    ::: spoiler spoiler asdfasfasfsadf :::

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                                    • JustEnoughDucksJ JustEnoughDucks

                                      It’s funny, because often they aren’t prettier. Well optimized and well made games from 5 or even 10 years ago often look on par better than the majority of AAA slop pushed out now (obviously with exceptions of some really good looking games like space marine and some others) and the disk size is still 10x what it was. They are just unrefined and unoptimized and try to use computationally expensive filters, lighting, sharpening, and antialiasing to make up for the mediocre quality.

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                                      motoash@lemmy.world
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                                      #199

                                      The irony is it is optimized in several notable cases, like cyberpunk 2077 and most major ue5 engine based games. It’s just all the mipmap levels from distant to 4k up close really add up when the game actually has a decent amount of content.

                                      I wonder how many people really run games at settings that require the highest detail. I bet a lot of people would appreciate half the DL size or more just to leave 'em out and disable ‘ultra’ settings.

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                                      • appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.comA appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                        Afaik the 2080was the last FE with a regular PCIe power connector.

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                                        theobvioussolution@lemm.ee
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                                        #200

                                        3090s weren’t burning up, though.

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                                        • L landedgentry@lemmy.zip

                                          ::: spoiler spoiler asdfasfasfsadf :::

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                                          candyman337
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                                          #201

                                          Yeah I have a 3080ti, If I had an older card I would 100% be buying AMD right now though.

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