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Gamers Are Reportedly Skipping GPU Upgrades Due to Soaring Prices — Paying Bills Takes Priority Over Chasing NVIDIA’s RTX 5090

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  • C coacoamelky@lemm.ee

    The good games don’t need a high end GPU.

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    railcar8095@lemm.ee
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    Terraria minimum specs: “don’t worry bro”

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    • D damage@feddit.it

      Somehow 4k resolution got a bad rep in the computing world, with people opposing it for both play and productivity.

      “You can’t see the difference at 50cm away!” or something like that. Must be bad eyesight I guess.

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      grindinggears@lemmy.ca
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      It’s just kind of unnecessary. Gaming in 1440p on something the size of your average computer monitor, hell even just good ol’ 1080 HD, is more than sufficient. I mean 1080 to 4k sure there’s a difference, but 1440p it’s a lot harder to tell. Nobody cares about your mud puddle reflections cranking along in a game at 120 fps. At least not the normies.

      Putting on my dinosaur hat for a second, I spent the first decade of my life gaming in 8/16 bit and 4 color CGA, and I’ve probably spent the last thirty years and god only knows how much money trying to replicate those experiences.

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      • C coacoamelky@lemm.ee

        The good games don’t need a high end GPU.

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        grindinggears@lemmy.ca
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        #48

        Problem is preordering has been normalized, as has releasing games in pre-alpha state.

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        • MudManM MudMan

          I mean, as written the headline statement is always true.

          I am horrified by some of the other takeaways, though:

          Nearly 3 in 4 gamers (73%) would choose NVIDIA if all GPU brands performed equally.
          
          57% of gamers have been blocked from buying a GPU due to price hikes or scalping, and 43% have delayed or canceled purchases due to other life expenses like rent and bills.
          
          Over 1 in 4 gamers (25%) say $500 is their maximum budget for a GPU today.
          
          Nearly 2 in 3 gamers (62%) would switch to cloud gaming full-time if latency were eliminated, and 42% would skip future GPU upgrades entirely if AI upscaling or cloud services met their performance needs.
          
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          grindinggears@lemmy.ca
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          #49

          That last one is especially horrifying. You don’t own games when you cloud game, you simply lease them. We all know what that’s done for the preservation of games. Not to mention encouraging the massive amounts of shovel ware that we get flooded with.

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          • blackmist@feddit.ukB blackmist@feddit.uk

            Still on a 1060 over here.

            Sure, I may have to limit FFXIV to 30fps in summer to stop it crashing, but it still runs.

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            pringles@sopuli.xyz
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            Hey, I’m also on a 1060 still! Admittedly I hardly game anymore, although I am considering another Skyrim playthrough.

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            • G grindinggears@lemmy.ca

              That last one is especially horrifying. You don’t own games when you cloud game, you simply lease them. We all know what that’s done for the preservation of games. Not to mention encouraging the massive amounts of shovel ware that we get flooded with.

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              wrote on last edited by kolanaki@pawb.social
              #51

              You don’t own games when you cloud game, you simply lease them.

              That’s also how it is with a game you purchased to play on your own PC, though. Unless you have it on physical media, your access could be revoked at any time.

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              • C cm0002@lemmy.world

                Well I am shocked, SHOCKED I say! Well, not that shocked.

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                bluesheep@lemm.ee
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                #52

                Paying Bills Takes Priority Over Chasing NVIDIA’s RTX 5090

                Yeah no shit, what a weird fucking take

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                • G grindinggears@lemmy.ca

                  Fuck those guys too honestly. AMD is fueling this bullshit just as much as Nvidia.

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                  Lord Wiggle
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                  #53

                  Nvidia is one of the most evil companies out there, responsible for killing nearly all other GPU producers destroying the market.

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                  • C cm0002@lemmy.world

                    Well I am shocked, SHOCKED I say! Well, not that shocked.

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                    tiredofsametab
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                    #54

                    I’m on a 2080 or 2090 (I forget which). I thought I’d upgrade to the 40xx now that 5090s are out. I looked at the prices and absolutely not. The 5090s are around 500k JPY, and ordering from the US would work out to about the same with exchange, tax, and any possible tariff that exists this week. Salaries here are also much lower than in the west as well on average even for those of us in software.

                    4070s are still around 100k which is cheaper than last time I looked at 250k ish.

                    Price aggregator site in Japan if you want to play around: https://kakaku.com/pc/videocard/itemlist.aspx?pdf_Spec103=500 On the left, you’ll see the cards to select and the prices are obvious on the screen.

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                    • C cm0002@lemmy.world

                      Well I am shocked, SHOCKED I say! Well, not that shocked.

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                      monogram@feddit.nl
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                      I downgraded from a gtx1060 to a ryzen 5000g igpu terraria & factorio don’t need much.

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                      • G grindinggears@lemmy.ca

                        Those cards were like what though, $199?

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                        jesus_666@lemmy.world
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                        #56

                        That’s still not cheap when you account for inflation. Of course there’s a world of difference between “not cheap” and what they charge these days.

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                        • C cheesenoodle@lemmy.world

                          Saved up for a couple of years and built the best (consumer grade) non nvidia PC I could, 9070XT, 9950X3D, 64gig of RAM. Pretty much top end everything that isn’t Nvidia or just spamming redundant RAM for no reason. The whole thing still costs less than a single RTX 5090 and on average draws less power too.

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                          sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                          Yep, thats gonna be significantly more powerful than my planned build… and likely somewhere between 500 to 1000 more expensive… but yep, that is how absurd this is, that all of that is still less expensive than a 5090 RTX.

                          I’m guessing you could get all of that to work with a 750 W PSU, 850 W if you also want to have a bunch of storage drives or a lot of cooling, but yeah, you’d only need that much for running raytracing in 4k.

                          Does that sound about right?

                          Eitherway… yeah… imagine an alternate timeline where marketing and industry direction isn’t bullshit, where people actually admit things like:

                          Consoles cannot really do what they claim to do at 4K… at actual 4K.

                          They use checkerboard upscaling, so basically they’re actually running at 2K and scaling up, and its actually less than 2K in demanding raytraced games, because they’re actually using FSR or DLSS as well, oh and the base graphics settings are a mix of what PC gamers would call medium and high, but they don’t show console gamers real graphics settings menus, so they don’t know that.

                          Maybe, maybe we could have tried to focus on just perfecting frame per watt and frame per $ efficiency at 2K instead of baffling us with marketing bs and claiming we can just leapfrog to 4K, and more recently, telling people 8K displays make any goddamned sense at all, when in 95% of home setup situations, of any kind, they have no physically possible perceptible gains.

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                          • S sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                            Yep, thats gonna be significantly more powerful than my planned build… and likely somewhere between 500 to 1000 more expensive… but yep, that is how absurd this is, that all of that is still less expensive than a 5090 RTX.

                            I’m guessing you could get all of that to work with a 750 W PSU, 850 W if you also want to have a bunch of storage drives or a lot of cooling, but yeah, you’d only need that much for running raytracing in 4k.

                            Does that sound about right?

                            Eitherway… yeah… imagine an alternate timeline where marketing and industry direction isn’t bullshit, where people actually admit things like:

                            Consoles cannot really do what they claim to do at 4K… at actual 4K.

                            They use checkerboard upscaling, so basically they’re actually running at 2K and scaling up, and its actually less than 2K in demanding raytraced games, because they’re actually using FSR or DLSS as well, oh and the base graphics settings are a mix of what PC gamers would call medium and high, but they don’t show console gamers real graphics settings menus, so they don’t know that.

                            Maybe, maybe we could have tried to focus on just perfecting frame per watt and frame per $ efficiency at 2K instead of baffling us with marketing bs and claiming we can just leapfrog to 4K, and more recently, telling people 8K displays make any goddamned sense at all, when in 95% of home setup situations, of any kind, they have no physically possible perceptible gains.

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                            cheesenoodle@lemmy.world
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                            1000W PSU for theoretical maximum draw of all components at once with a good safety margin. But even when running a render I’ve never seen it break 500W.

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                            • C cm0002@lemmy.world

                              Well I am shocked, SHOCKED I say! Well, not that shocked.

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                              xenny@lemmy.world
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                              Rimworld doesn’t need a new gpu

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                              • 4 474d@lemmy.world

                                “When did it just become expected that everybody would upgrade GPU’s every year and that’s suppose to be normal?” - that’s a really good question because I don’t think normal PC gamers have ever, and still aren’t, like that. It’s basically part of the culture to stretch your GPU to the limit of time so idk who you’re complaining about. Yeah, GPU prices are bullshit rn but let’s not make up stuff

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                                zurohki@aussie.zone
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                                Nah, there was a time when you’d get a new card every two years and it’d be twice as fast for the same price.

                                Nowadays the new cards are 10% faster for 15% more money.

                                I bought a new card last year after running a Vega 64 for ages and I honestly think it might last me ten years because things are only getting worse.

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                                • X xenny@lemmy.world

                                  Rimworld doesn’t need a new gpu

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                                  knightly the Sneptaur
                                  wrote on last edited by knightly@pawb.social
                                  #61

                                  What it needs is a new multi-threaded engine so I can actually use all these extra cores. XD

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                                  • Lord WiggleL Lord Wiggle

                                    Fuck Nvidia anyways. #teamred

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                                    poopfeast420@discuss.tchncs.de
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                                    #teamred

                                    Temu Nvidia is so much better, true. Please support the “underdog” billion dollar company.

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                                    • C cm0002@lemmy.world

                                      Well I am shocked, SHOCKED I say! Well, not that shocked.

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                                      Bakkoda
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                                      My new gpu was a steam deck.

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                                      • missingnoM missingno

                                        I don’t think they’re actually expecting anyone to upgrade annually. But there’s always someone due for an upgrade, however long it’s been for them. You can compare what percentage of users upgraded this year to previous years.

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                                        dditty
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                                        #64

                                        I just finally upgraded from a 1080 Ti to a 5070 Ti. At high refresh-rate 1440p the 1080 Ti was definitely showing its age and certain games would crash (even with no GPU overclock). Fortunately I was able to get a PNY 5070 Ti for only ~$60 over MSRP at the local Microcenter.

                                        5000 series is a pretty shitty value across the board, but I got a new job (and pay increase) and so it was the right time for me to upgrade after 8 years.

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                                        • poopfeast420@discuss.tchncs.deP poopfeast420@discuss.tchncs.de

                                          #teamred

                                          Temu Nvidia is so much better, true. Please support the “underdog” billion dollar company.

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                                          Lord Wiggle
                                          wrote on last edited by lordwiggle@lemmy.world
                                          #65

                                          I support the lesser evil option, yes. It’s not like I have much other choices now, do I? Thanks to fucking Nvidia.

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