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  • FauxPseudo F FauxPseudo

    That isn’t a joke. It’s from the official HHS Facebook page.

    I try not to think about Ancient Rome every day but I see things like this and it’s unavoidable. Rome was completely dependent on wheat from Egypt. Egypt was completely dependent on wheat from Egypt as well. It’s still so dependent that bread is subsidized so that it is available for the lower class to survive on. French baguettes? Subsidized in France.

    This last year I have eaten so much bread. I’m making several pounds of it a week because I can make a pound of bread for less than a dollar. I mix up a big batch of dough and use it all up not even knowing what I’ll be making out of it in advance. It might get turned into bread, pizza crust or pitas. In fact I have 3.5 pounds of it rising on my kitchen island right now.

    How much weight did I gain eating all this bread last year? I lost 7 pounds.

    Bread is life. It’s the reason that people with gluten issues try so desperately to make bread they can eat. It was there at the birth of agriculture. It made cities possible.

    But it’s way down near the bottom of this triangle and red meat is at the top. How are you going to make a good steak sandwich without more bread than steak? Assuming you can afford steak.

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    I’m just completely confused by this pyramid. What does it say?

    • Bread / grain is the basis for our food
    • Avoid bread
    • Bread is the 3rd corner, equally important to meat and vegetables

    All three seem equally logical to me.

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    • FauxPseudo F FauxPseudo

      That isn’t a joke. It’s from the official HHS Facebook page.

      I try not to think about Ancient Rome every day but I see things like this and it’s unavoidable. Rome was completely dependent on wheat from Egypt. Egypt was completely dependent on wheat from Egypt as well. It’s still so dependent that bread is subsidized so that it is available for the lower class to survive on. French baguettes? Subsidized in France.

      This last year I have eaten so much bread. I’m making several pounds of it a week because I can make a pound of bread for less than a dollar. I mix up a big batch of dough and use it all up not even knowing what I’ll be making out of it in advance. It might get turned into bread, pizza crust or pitas. In fact I have 3.5 pounds of it rising on my kitchen island right now.

      How much weight did I gain eating all this bread last year? I lost 7 pounds.

      Bread is life. It’s the reason that people with gluten issues try so desperately to make bread they can eat. It was there at the birth of agriculture. It made cities possible.

      But it’s way down near the bottom of this triangle and red meat is at the top. How are you going to make a good steak sandwich without more bread than steak? Assuming you can afford steak.

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      supervisor194@lemmy.world
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      I’m not certain I understand… I make a lot of bread too and partly because it’s cheap, but also partly because it’s awesome. I’m focused on sourdough at the moment, it’s been a long trip.

      I am unsure of what the “new” pyramid is trying to say, because it says nothing. Very strange, though not, I suppose, coming from the barely literate fuckheads running HHS now.

      It sounds like you’re struggling pretty hard, good on you you make your own bread. Fresh vegetables and fruit are still fairly reasonable, particularly if you do local farmer’s markets. I recently posted about how using dried beans instead of canned is a real money saver (a pound of navy beans is like, $1.20 - and loads of good protein).

      I am also quite focused on foraging right now. I hope it doesn’t come to it, but if it should, I’d like to be as prepared as possible. Knowing what edible wild plants exist around you is very valuable, and can be a fun hobby for those bent that way.

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      • FauxPseudo F FauxPseudo

        That isn’t a joke. It’s from the official HHS Facebook page.

        I try not to think about Ancient Rome every day but I see things like this and it’s unavoidable. Rome was completely dependent on wheat from Egypt. Egypt was completely dependent on wheat from Egypt as well. It’s still so dependent that bread is subsidized so that it is available for the lower class to survive on. French baguettes? Subsidized in France.

        This last year I have eaten so much bread. I’m making several pounds of it a week because I can make a pound of bread for less than a dollar. I mix up a big batch of dough and use it all up not even knowing what I’ll be making out of it in advance. It might get turned into bread, pizza crust or pitas. In fact I have 3.5 pounds of it rising on my kitchen island right now.

        How much weight did I gain eating all this bread last year? I lost 7 pounds.

        Bread is life. It’s the reason that people with gluten issues try so desperately to make bread they can eat. It was there at the birth of agriculture. It made cities possible.

        But it’s way down near the bottom of this triangle and red meat is at the top. How are you going to make a good steak sandwich without more bread than steak? Assuming you can afford steak.

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        no_money_just_change@feddit.org
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        For me, this does not look like a basis for which food groups you eat because there is only one separator between grain and non grain.

        If I would guess, the idea is to eat equal amounts of meat, vegetables, and grain, as these are the three corners of this samesided triangle

        What it looks like for me, though, is a map to show for what constitutes a vegetable, a meat, or a grain.

        What we learn:

        • Anything with less than 80% grain is not a grain dish (see black line, porridge, for example, is on themeat side of the line)
        • vegetables and meats can’t be clearly distinguished (see lack of line)
        • an avocado is exactly 1/3 fruit 1/3 meat and 1/3 grain
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        • FauxPseudo F FauxPseudo

          That isn’t a joke. It’s from the official HHS Facebook page.

          I try not to think about Ancient Rome every day but I see things like this and it’s unavoidable. Rome was completely dependent on wheat from Egypt. Egypt was completely dependent on wheat from Egypt as well. It’s still so dependent that bread is subsidized so that it is available for the lower class to survive on. French baguettes? Subsidized in France.

          This last year I have eaten so much bread. I’m making several pounds of it a week because I can make a pound of bread for less than a dollar. I mix up a big batch of dough and use it all up not even knowing what I’ll be making out of it in advance. It might get turned into bread, pizza crust or pitas. In fact I have 3.5 pounds of it rising on my kitchen island right now.

          How much weight did I gain eating all this bread last year? I lost 7 pounds.

          Bread is life. It’s the reason that people with gluten issues try so desperately to make bread they can eat. It was there at the birth of agriculture. It made cities possible.

          But it’s way down near the bottom of this triangle and red meat is at the top. How are you going to make a good steak sandwich without more bread than steak? Assuming you can afford steak.

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          fondots@lemmy.world
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          I really don’t want to make excuses for anything this administration does, and I haven’t looked too much into what the justification of this is supposed to be

          But hypothetically if you dumped this new food “pyramid” on my desk, without any other context, and I didn’t know it had anything to do with the trump administration, and asked me to make sense of it I feel like I could come up with something like “whole grains, proteins, and produce are the 3 cornerstones of a healthy diet”

          And the pyramid is upside down because no one thing should be the main “foundation” of your diet, it should all be balanced

          I kind of feel like the trump/rfk cronies came across a half-finished rough sketch of an idea for a new food pyramid loft in the desk drawer of some competent USDA employee they forced out, threw out the notes they found with it, and pushed it through with their own stupid spin because they wanted to do something showy like coming up with a new food pyramid.

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            For me, this does not look like a basis for which food groups you eat because there is only one separator between grain and non grain.

            If I would guess, the idea is to eat equal amounts of meat, vegetables, and grain, as these are the three corners of this samesided triangle

            What it looks like for me, though, is a map to show for what constitutes a vegetable, a meat, or a grain.

            What we learn:

            • Anything with less than 80% grain is not a grain dish (see black line, porridge, for example, is on themeat side of the line)
            • vegetables and meats can’t be clearly distinguished (see lack of line)
            • an avocado is exactly 1/3 fruit 1/3 meat and 1/3 grain
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            spacenoodle@lemmy.world
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            No, avocado is clearly less fruit/vegetable than meat/grain

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            • F fondots@lemmy.world

              I really don’t want to make excuses for anything this administration does, and I haven’t looked too much into what the justification of this is supposed to be

              But hypothetically if you dumped this new food “pyramid” on my desk, without any other context, and I didn’t know it had anything to do with the trump administration, and asked me to make sense of it I feel like I could come up with something like “whole grains, proteins, and produce are the 3 cornerstones of a healthy diet”

              And the pyramid is upside down because no one thing should be the main “foundation” of your diet, it should all be balanced

              I kind of feel like the trump/rfk cronies came across a half-finished rough sketch of an idea for a new food pyramid loft in the desk drawer of some competent USDA employee they forced out, threw out the notes they found with it, and pushed it through with their own stupid spin because they wanted to do something showy like coming up with a new food pyramid.

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              spacenoodle@lemmy.world
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              You don’t think they just kept feeding prompts into The Slop Machine until something less than 100% incomprehensible popped out?

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              • N no_money_just_change@feddit.org

                For me, this does not look like a basis for which food groups you eat because there is only one separator between grain and non grain.

                If I would guess, the idea is to eat equal amounts of meat, vegetables, and grain, as these are the three corners of this samesided triangle

                What it looks like for me, though, is a map to show for what constitutes a vegetable, a meat, or a grain.

                What we learn:

                • Anything with less than 80% grain is not a grain dish (see black line, porridge, for example, is on themeat side of the line)
                • vegetables and meats can’t be clearly distinguished (see lack of line)
                • an avocado is exactly 1/3 fruit 1/3 meat and 1/3 grain
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                essell@lemmy.world
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                An avocado is exactly 1/3 fruit 1/3 meat and 1/3 grain

                Does this change depending on whether you eat the wooden toy ball inside or keep it to play with?

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                • FauxPseudo F FauxPseudo

                  That isn’t a joke. It’s from the official HHS Facebook page.

                  I try not to think about Ancient Rome every day but I see things like this and it’s unavoidable. Rome was completely dependent on wheat from Egypt. Egypt was completely dependent on wheat from Egypt as well. It’s still so dependent that bread is subsidized so that it is available for the lower class to survive on. French baguettes? Subsidized in France.

                  This last year I have eaten so much bread. I’m making several pounds of it a week because I can make a pound of bread for less than a dollar. I mix up a big batch of dough and use it all up not even knowing what I’ll be making out of it in advance. It might get turned into bread, pizza crust or pitas. In fact I have 3.5 pounds of it rising on my kitchen island right now.

                  How much weight did I gain eating all this bread last year? I lost 7 pounds.

                  Bread is life. It’s the reason that people with gluten issues try so desperately to make bread they can eat. It was there at the birth of agriculture. It made cities possible.

                  But it’s way down near the bottom of this triangle and red meat is at the top. How are you going to make a good steak sandwich without more bread than steak? Assuming you can afford steak.

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                  a_norny_mousse@feddit.org
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                  About the pic and the “official FB page”:

                  MAHA == brainworm

                  Your dough looks nice. What is raising it? And the color, is that rye?

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                  • E essell@lemmy.world

                    An avocado is exactly 1/3 fruit 1/3 meat and 1/3 grain

                    Does this change depending on whether you eat the wooden toy ball inside or keep it to play with?

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                    a_norny_mousse@feddit.org
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                    You have to crack it open, there’s candy inside! Or maybe dog treats 🤔

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                    • a_norny_mousse@feddit.orgA a_norny_mousse@feddit.org

                      About the pic and the “official FB page”:

                      MAHA == brainworm

                      Your dough looks nice. What is raising it? And the color, is that rye?

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                      FauxPseudo
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                      Standard yeast and unbleached AP.

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                      • FauxPseudo F FauxPseudo

                        That isn’t a joke. It’s from the official HHS Facebook page.

                        I try not to think about Ancient Rome every day but I see things like this and it’s unavoidable. Rome was completely dependent on wheat from Egypt. Egypt was completely dependent on wheat from Egypt as well. It’s still so dependent that bread is subsidized so that it is available for the lower class to survive on. French baguettes? Subsidized in France.

                        This last year I have eaten so much bread. I’m making several pounds of it a week because I can make a pound of bread for less than a dollar. I mix up a big batch of dough and use it all up not even knowing what I’ll be making out of it in advance. It might get turned into bread, pizza crust or pitas. In fact I have 3.5 pounds of it rising on my kitchen island right now.

                        How much weight did I gain eating all this bread last year? I lost 7 pounds.

                        Bread is life. It’s the reason that people with gluten issues try so desperately to make bread they can eat. It was there at the birth of agriculture. It made cities possible.

                        But it’s way down near the bottom of this triangle and red meat is at the top. How are you going to make a good steak sandwich without more bread than steak? Assuming you can afford steak.

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                        The German Nutrition Society (DGE) has shifted to a circle instead of a pyramid:

                        109309

                        The portions of the circle refer to volume and not calories. In my opinion this design is superior to pyramids in general because all parts are equally important for a balanced diet, with hydration in the middle.

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                        • TreasureT Treasure

                          The German Nutrition Society (DGE) has shifted to a circle instead of a pyramid:

                          109309

                          The portions of the circle refer to volume and not calories. In my opinion this design is superior to pyramids in general because all parts are equally important for a balanced diet, with hydration in the middle.

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                          FauxPseudo
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                          Is there a version weighted by calories? Because I’m finding volume to be hard for me to understand because I’m so used to weighting by calories. A pound of tomatoes looks very different in size from a pound of tomato sauce but the two are nutritionally the same. But I do agree that volume would be easy for the average person.

                          On the new pyramid a whole roasted turkey has a higher priority than a 16 ounce steak. Who eats a whoy roasted turkey? Or is it a rotisserie chicken? It’s bigger than the steak so it must be a turkey, right?

                          Also when I looked at this before reading your description I was wondering if there was a difference between items closer to the center than the outside.

                          It’s still a better design than a top heavy triangle.

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                          • TreasureT Treasure

                            The German Nutrition Society (DGE) has shifted to a circle instead of a pyramid:

                            109309

                            The portions of the circle refer to volume and not calories. In my opinion this design is superior to pyramids in general because all parts are equally important for a balanced diet, with hydration in the middle.

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                            FauxPseudo
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                            On my second look I’m confused about why so much vodka and gin is the center of a balanced diet.

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                            • FauxPseudo F FauxPseudo

                              That isn’t a joke. It’s from the official HHS Facebook page.

                              I try not to think about Ancient Rome every day but I see things like this and it’s unavoidable. Rome was completely dependent on wheat from Egypt. Egypt was completely dependent on wheat from Egypt as well. It’s still so dependent that bread is subsidized so that it is available for the lower class to survive on. French baguettes? Subsidized in France.

                              This last year I have eaten so much bread. I’m making several pounds of it a week because I can make a pound of bread for less than a dollar. I mix up a big batch of dough and use it all up not even knowing what I’ll be making out of it in advance. It might get turned into bread, pizza crust or pitas. In fact I have 3.5 pounds of it rising on my kitchen island right now.

                              How much weight did I gain eating all this bread last year? I lost 7 pounds.

                              Bread is life. It’s the reason that people with gluten issues try so desperately to make bread they can eat. It was there at the birth of agriculture. It made cities possible.

                              But it’s way down near the bottom of this triangle and red meat is at the top. How are you going to make a good steak sandwich without more bread than steak? Assuming you can afford steak.

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                              Do the opposite of anything RFK says.

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                              • LexamL Lexam

                                Do the opposite of anything RFK says.

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                                Normally I’m against binary thinking, but this might be the best solution with him.

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                                • FauxPseudo F FauxPseudo

                                  Standard yeast and unbleached AP.

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                                  a_norny_mousse@feddit.org
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                                  OK. What’s AP?

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                                  • a_norny_mousse@feddit.orgA a_norny_mousse@feddit.org

                                    OK. What’s AP?

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                                    FauxPseudo
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                                    All Purpose flour. 9-12% protein, closer to O than OO in fineness.

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