Speaking of RPG nighspots, I remember Volo's Guide to Waterdeep where they leaned way too far into the fantasy side of things and all of the bars looked like the kind of fantasy-themed family restaurant that you get in Las Vegas.
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Speaking of RPG nighspots, I remember Volo's Guide to Waterdeep where they leaned way too far into the fantasy side of things and all of the bars looked like the kind of fantasy-themed family restaurant that you get in Las Vegas.
Waitresses dresses as fucking Drow House Mothers and shit...
Awful.
Hilarious.
Not even remotely game-useful.
Someone should have gone into the commercial interior design rater than writing books for elf games.
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Speaking of RPG nighspots, I remember Volo's Guide to Waterdeep where they leaned way too far into the fantasy side of things and all of the bars looked like the kind of fantasy-themed family restaurant that you get in Las Vegas.
Waitresses dresses as fucking Drow House Mothers and shit...
Awful.
Hilarious.
Not even remotely game-useful.
Someone should have gone into the commercial interior design rater than writing books for elf games.
@Taskerland I feel like recently I've seen quite a few mentions of aesthetic and cosy vibes supplements for 5e. I know there's a Pathfinder taverns supplement too. There's clearly some market for that sort of thing, even if it's only other people who feel the urge to write them.
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@Taskerland I feel like recently I've seen quite a few mentions of aesthetic and cosy vibes supplements for 5e. I know there's a Pathfinder taverns supplement too. There's clearly some market for that sort of thing, even if it's only other people who feel the urge to write them.
@Taskerland at some point I really should take a look because I am curious what exactly you *do* with a cosy vibes DnD supplement
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Speaking of RPG nighspots, I remember Volo's Guide to Waterdeep where they leaned way too far into the fantasy side of things and all of the bars looked like the kind of fantasy-themed family restaurant that you get in Las Vegas.
Waitresses dresses as fucking Drow House Mothers and shit...
Awful.
Hilarious.
Not even remotely game-useful.
Someone should have gone into the commercial interior design rater than writing books for elf games.
@Taskerland I quite like interior design in games. Eventually though I have to design ceilings and it all falls apart.
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@Taskerland at some point I really should take a look because I am curious what exactly you *do* with a cosy vibes DnD supplement
If they're hardbacks they can be used to flatten creases in other books in my book press, which annoying doesn't fit most of my regular perspex shims.
Shims tee hee hee.
Actually you could be quite transgressive in a 5e game which was cloyingly cosy. There's fun to be had being Withnail and I in "ye olde fantasy wank inne"
Equally in a world of magic you have to ask yourself "is this Stepford" in a real worry way.
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@Taskerland I feel like recently I've seen quite a few mentions of aesthetic and cosy vibes supplements for 5e. I know there's a Pathfinder taverns supplement too. There's clearly some market for that sort of thing, even if it's only other people who feel the urge to write them.
@shimminbeg I would be interested to see what a cosy pub-themed supplement for Pathfinder would look like. I hope it would involve optimised binge-drinking roadmaps. ("3 double vodkas then a beer so that you don't stack too many debuffs on the Con roll")
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If they're hardbacks they can be used to flatten creases in other books in my book press, which annoying doesn't fit most of my regular perspex shims.
Shims tee hee hee.
Actually you could be quite transgressive in a 5e game which was cloyingly cosy. There's fun to be had being Withnail and I in "ye olde fantasy wank inne"
Equally in a world of magic you have to ask yourself "is this Stepford" in a real worry way.
@Printdevil @shimminbeg @Taskerland There's a game called Xenopolitan, which includes lots of aliens but is nonetheless about doing ordinary things in a quotidian setting. Fun book. Can't for the life of me imagine how I could ever play it.
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@Printdevil @shimminbeg @Taskerland There's a game called Xenopolitan, which includes lots of aliens but is nonetheless about doing ordinary things in a quotidian setting. Fun book. Can't for the life of me imagine how I could ever play it.
@BigJackBrass @Printdevil @shimminbeg @Taskerland I could see scope for a low-stakes sort of game: oh no, the beer has gone off and tonight is the Midsummer Feast, what are we going to do? But I am nor convinced that an RPG can be interesting by doing internal conflict as its only source of challenge. (Well, I suppose there was that CoC adventure in which all the PCs turn out to be facets of one split personality.)
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@Printdevil @shimminbeg @Taskerland There's a game called Xenopolitan, which includes lots of aliens but is nonetheless about doing ordinary things in a quotidian setting. Fun book. Can't for the life of me imagine how I could ever play it.
@BigJackBrass @Printdevil @shimminbeg I used to be a big fan of having rpg campaigns divert into running bars and other mundane businesses but Legends & Lattes has rather soured me on the idea.
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@BigJackBrass @Printdevil @shimminbeg I used to be a big fan of having rpg campaigns divert into running bars and other mundane businesses but Legends & Lattes has rather soured me on the idea.
@Taskerland @BigJackBrass @Printdevil @shimminbeg There also exists that class of player for whom fantasy business admin is not fantasy but a sudden return to real life.
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@Printdevil @shimminbeg @Taskerland There's a game called Xenopolitan, which includes lots of aliens but is nonetheless about doing ordinary things in a quotidian setting. Fun book. Can't for the life of me imagine how I could ever play it.
I've found that games like that are the games you play *after* people have got interested in the concept, and then you just start altering goals in the game and the rewards from "we murdered everyone till the world was safe and we lived in dust soaked in the blood of hope" to "you got married, and it was to the NPC you met on the first week who didn't have a name yet, the game ends with them saying they're pregnant, everyone at the table grins"
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@Taskerland @BigJackBrass @Printdevil @shimminbeg There also exists that class of player for whom fantasy business admin is not fantasy but a sudden return to real life.
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Obviously we'd all enjoy running a bookshop.
Except in Bloodhounds.
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@BigJackBrass @Printdevil @shimminbeg @Taskerland I could see scope for a low-stakes sort of game: oh no, the beer has gone off and tonight is the Midsummer Feast, what are we going to do? But I am nor convinced that an RPG can be interesting by doing internal conflict as its only source of challenge. (Well, I suppose there was that CoC adventure in which all the PCs turn out to be facets of one split personality.)
I think you can have external conflicts and internal conflicts and just move the stakes. I think though if you can't imagine it, you're unlikely to want to GM it. I think the issue comes when people assume things are cosy. That's just simming
We did a game running a frantic A&E/ER for a bit as a prelude to the "spooky" and the ER section was actually much more stressful and horrifying than the later ghost section. A nice duality.
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@BigJackBrass @Printdevil @shimminbeg I used to be a big fan of having rpg campaigns divert into running bars and other mundane businesses but Legends & Lattes has rather soured me on the idea.
I prefer if the restaurant or something is run by one character rather than the whole group. I like microcosms within larger games about the bigger plot, then you can telescope out, or microscope in on things to vary the pacing. I always wanted to play a Restaurateur Alchemist who made special creations for monsters, but I could never sell a GM on the idea in a VtM game
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Speaking of RPG nighspots, I remember Volo's Guide to Waterdeep where they leaned way too far into the fantasy side of things and all of the bars looked like the kind of fantasy-themed family restaurant that you get in Las Vegas.
Waitresses dresses as fucking Drow House Mothers and shit...
Awful.
Hilarious.
Not even remotely game-useful.
Someone should have gone into the commercial interior design rater than writing books for elf games.
I also wonder if there's not a degree of cultural difference here....
I get the impression that Americans like and expect a certain degree of cheerfully inauthentic theming to even their local watering holes whereas most British pubs are broadly the same only more-or-less rundown and more-or-less gentrified.
A US game designer would naturally reach for the Forgotten Realms equivalent of a baseball-themed bar and to UK eyes that reads like the fake restaurants they have in Disneyworld.
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Obviously we'd all enjoy running a bookshop.
Except in Bloodhounds.
@Printdevil @Taskerland @BigJackBrass @shimminbeg A campaign I will probably never run: Black Bookhounds. I mean, that lot are practically PCs already.
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I also wonder if there's not a degree of cultural difference here....
I get the impression that Americans like and expect a certain degree of cheerfully inauthentic theming to even their local watering holes whereas most British pubs are broadly the same only more-or-less rundown and more-or-less gentrified.
A US game designer would naturally reach for the Forgotten Realms equivalent of a baseball-themed bar and to UK eyes that reads like the fake restaurants they have in Disneyworld.
@Taskerland Also handy for their reference: Medieval Times, renaissance faires, etc.
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I also wonder if there's not a degree of cultural difference here....
I get the impression that Americans like and expect a certain degree of cheerfully inauthentic theming to even their local watering holes whereas most British pubs are broadly the same only more-or-less rundown and more-or-less gentrified.
A US game designer would naturally reach for the Forgotten Realms equivalent of a baseball-themed bar and to UK eyes that reads like the fake restaurants they have in Disneyworld.
@Taskerland broadly speaking they don't have historical narrative for taverns and watering holes though, the European history of travel and commerce is built on road side places that service all kinds of needs, as well as the locals. There's not the feeling of "Monastery or Pub" in US history that stretches back into the middle ages with Europe. That shapes how we see these things. I think there's a sense of Crazy Cross-Time-Bar about a lot of US fantasy inns.
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@Printdevil @Taskerland @BigJackBrass @shimminbeg A campaign I will probably never run: Black Bookhounds. I mean, that lot are practically PCs already.
That's basically my old group. And my old games.
Much missed
*sniff sniff orange smoke*
