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  • FauxPseudo F This user is from outside of this forum
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    FauxPseudo
    wrote on last edited by
    #1

    I had a craving for Fritos but no money. But I have cornmeal.

    I kept finding the same recipe over and over again, but after following it I could definitely tell that there were errors in it.

    So I did a second batch with minor variations. The second batch is better. But not perfect. More testing is needed.

    Cost per batch: 20¢

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    • FauxPseudo F FauxPseudo

      I had a craving for Fritos but no money. But I have cornmeal.

      I kept finding the same recipe over and over again, but after following it I could definitely tell that there were errors in it.

      So I did a second batch with minor variations. The second batch is better. But not perfect. More testing is needed.

      Cost per batch: 20¢

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      radiouser@crazypeople.online
      wrote on last edited by
      #2

      keep fighting the good fight.

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      • FauxPseudo F FauxPseudo

        I had a craving for Fritos but no money. But I have cornmeal.

        I kept finding the same recipe over and over again, but after following it I could definitely tell that there were errors in it.

        So I did a second batch with minor variations. The second batch is better. But not perfect. More testing is needed.

        Cost per batch: 20¢

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        jimbabwe@lemmy.world
        wrote on last edited by
        #3

        If you wish to make a frito pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe.

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        • J jimbabwe@lemmy.world

          If you wish to make a frito pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe.

          FauxPseudo F This user is from outside of this forum
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          FauxPseudo
          wrote on last edited by fauxpseudo@lemmy.world
          #4

          But what if I already created the universe when I made an apple pie? Can I use that universe?

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          • FauxPseudo F FauxPseudo

            But what if I already created the universe when I made an apple pie? Can I use that universe?

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            jimbabwe@lemmy.world
            wrote on last edited by
            #5

            No.

            Actually, I thought about it a bit more and decided that, as preposterous as it sounds, a universe where apple and frito pies coexist might actually be pretty nice.

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            • FauxPseudo F FauxPseudo

              I had a craving for Fritos but no money. But I have cornmeal.

              I kept finding the same recipe over and over again, but after following it I could definitely tell that there were errors in it.

              So I did a second batch with minor variations. The second batch is better. But not perfect. More testing is needed.

              Cost per batch: 20¢

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              nima@leminal.space
              wrote on last edited by
              #6

              i believe in you!

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              • FauxPseudo F FauxPseudo

                I had a craving for Fritos but no money. But I have cornmeal.

                I kept finding the same recipe over and over again, but after following it I could definitely tell that there were errors in it.

                So I did a second batch with minor variations. The second batch is better. But not perfect. More testing is needed.

                Cost per batch: 20¢

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                atropos@lemmy.world
                wrote on last edited by
                #7

                Neat, we’ve been doing cheez its from sourdough discard.

                What recipe are you using?

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                • FauxPseudo F FauxPseudo

                  I had a craving for Fritos but no money. But I have cornmeal.

                  I kept finding the same recipe over and over again, but after following it I could definitely tell that there were errors in it.

                  So I did a second batch with minor variations. The second batch is better. But not perfect. More testing is needed.

                  Cost per batch: 20¢

                  Link Preview Image
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                  harrisdude9@lemmy.world
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #8

                  Can you post the improved recipe? I’m curious to give it a try sounds like fun.

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                  • FauxPseudo F FauxPseudo

                    I had a craving for Fritos but no money. But I have cornmeal.

                    I kept finding the same recipe over and over again, but after following it I could definitely tell that there were errors in it.

                    So I did a second batch with minor variations. The second batch is better. But not perfect. More testing is needed.

                    Cost per batch: 20¢

                    Link Preview Image
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                    BootyEnthusiast
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #9

                    Yo what’s the step by step here?

                    Seems like a solid foundation, and I wanna know how viable it is for the average joe.

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                    • BootyEnthusiastB BootyEnthusiast

                      Yo what’s the step by step here?

                      Seems like a solid foundation, and I wanna know how viable it is for the average joe.

                      FauxPseudo F This user is from outside of this forum
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                      FauxPseudo
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #10

                      80 grams of cornmeal
                      295 grams (1.25 cups) boiling water.
                      1 tsp salt.
                      1 tsp oil

                      Preheat oven to 375f.

                      Mix the salt and cornmeal in a bowl.
                      Add the boiling water and mix until you get a loose paste.
                      Add in the oil and mix it in.

                      Lay down a piece of parchment paper large enough to fit your baking sheet.
                      Pour the mixture into the center of the paper. Put a second sheet of parchment paper on top.
                      Roll out to 1/3 inch thick. Transfer to the baking sheet.
                      Peal off the second sheet.
                      Use a butter knife to score the batter into half inch strips and then again into two inch lengths.
                      Bake until golden. Remove from oven and let cool.
                      Break apart into individual chips. Deep fry at 350f for 1 to 2 minutes. Drain on paper towel. Sprinkle additional salt (optional). Cool and serve.

                      Issues: Salt level is too high. Even 1 tsp of kosher salt is too much. Maybe 1/2 a tsp and a 1/4 tsp for dusting would be better.

                      1/3 inch thick seems way to thick. First test batch wax 1/8 and was top thin. Resulted in more snap than crunch. Second batch was closer to 3/16 and was definitely truer to the original. Maybe try 1/4.

                      The baking time and temperature are extremely off. Even at 1/8 inch thick it took closer to 20 minutes to even get to just “golden on the edges”. At 1/4 the temp and time definitely need adjustments. I’m thinking 425 and 15 minutes.

                      The flavor isn’t quite right. It needs something else. Onion powder, brown sugar, MSG, honey, garlic powder, and spices are all listed as ingredients by the manufacturer but clone recipes don’t have any. The amounts must be pretty small. But they are obviously having an effect. I’m thinking brown sugar and onion are the biggest players but that Uncle Roger would want a pinch of MSG too.

                      Parchment paper bottom: yes Parchment paper top? No. Use wax paper for better separation when you peak it off.

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                      • H harrisdude9@lemmy.world

                        Can you post the improved recipe? I’m curious to give it a try sounds like fun.

                        FauxPseudo F This user is from outside of this forum
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                        FauxPseudo
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #11

                        I posted the original and my thoughts and experiences in a different comment. Still needs more improvement.

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                        • A atropos@lemmy.world

                          Neat, we’ve been doing cheez its from sourdough discard.

                          What recipe are you using?

                          FauxPseudo F This user is from outside of this forum
                          FauxPseudo F This user is from outside of this forum
                          FauxPseudo
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #12

                          I posted the recipe with my thoughts on it in a different comment.

                          I’ve done this sourdough discard Cheez-Its and I’ve done regular cheese-Its as well. Both are great. As long as they’re not too poofy. For some reason some recipes. Just think that it needs to be super poofy squares.

                          The last time I did it was sourdough discard with some cheddar I smoked. Good stuff.

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                          • FauxPseudo F FauxPseudo

                            80 grams of cornmeal
                            295 grams (1.25 cups) boiling water.
                            1 tsp salt.
                            1 tsp oil

                            Preheat oven to 375f.

                            Mix the salt and cornmeal in a bowl.
                            Add the boiling water and mix until you get a loose paste.
                            Add in the oil and mix it in.

                            Lay down a piece of parchment paper large enough to fit your baking sheet.
                            Pour the mixture into the center of the paper. Put a second sheet of parchment paper on top.
                            Roll out to 1/3 inch thick. Transfer to the baking sheet.
                            Peal off the second sheet.
                            Use a butter knife to score the batter into half inch strips and then again into two inch lengths.
                            Bake until golden. Remove from oven and let cool.
                            Break apart into individual chips. Deep fry at 350f for 1 to 2 minutes. Drain on paper towel. Sprinkle additional salt (optional). Cool and serve.

                            Issues: Salt level is too high. Even 1 tsp of kosher salt is too much. Maybe 1/2 a tsp and a 1/4 tsp for dusting would be better.

                            1/3 inch thick seems way to thick. First test batch wax 1/8 and was top thin. Resulted in more snap than crunch. Second batch was closer to 3/16 and was definitely truer to the original. Maybe try 1/4.

                            The baking time and temperature are extremely off. Even at 1/8 inch thick it took closer to 20 minutes to even get to just “golden on the edges”. At 1/4 the temp and time definitely need adjustments. I’m thinking 425 and 15 minutes.

                            The flavor isn’t quite right. It needs something else. Onion powder, brown sugar, MSG, honey, garlic powder, and spices are all listed as ingredients by the manufacturer but clone recipes don’t have any. The amounts must be pretty small. But they are obviously having an effect. I’m thinking brown sugar and onion are the biggest players but that Uncle Roger would want a pinch of MSG too.

                            Parchment paper bottom: yes Parchment paper top? No. Use wax paper for better separation when you peak it off.

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                            skyrmir@lemmy.world
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #13

                            Paprika or BBQ sauce would probably fill that seasoning gap. I’m wondering if dehydration might work better than baking, could be a 1000% worse though.

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                            • S skyrmir@lemmy.world

                              Paprika or BBQ sauce would probably fill that seasoning gap. I’m wondering if dehydration might work better than baking, could be a 1000% worse though.

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                              FauxPseudo
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #14

                              I thought about it. I think that oil added to the mixture I think is there to create bubbles while it’s baking. Dehydrating will create great dense chips. In addition to grammatically increasing the batch time

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                              • FauxPseudo F FauxPseudo

                                80 grams of cornmeal
                                295 grams (1.25 cups) boiling water.
                                1 tsp salt.
                                1 tsp oil

                                Preheat oven to 375f.

                                Mix the salt and cornmeal in a bowl.
                                Add the boiling water and mix until you get a loose paste.
                                Add in the oil and mix it in.

                                Lay down a piece of parchment paper large enough to fit your baking sheet.
                                Pour the mixture into the center of the paper. Put a second sheet of parchment paper on top.
                                Roll out to 1/3 inch thick. Transfer to the baking sheet.
                                Peal off the second sheet.
                                Use a butter knife to score the batter into half inch strips and then again into two inch lengths.
                                Bake until golden. Remove from oven and let cool.
                                Break apart into individual chips. Deep fry at 350f for 1 to 2 minutes. Drain on paper towel. Sprinkle additional salt (optional). Cool and serve.

                                Issues: Salt level is too high. Even 1 tsp of kosher salt is too much. Maybe 1/2 a tsp and a 1/4 tsp for dusting would be better.

                                1/3 inch thick seems way to thick. First test batch wax 1/8 and was top thin. Resulted in more snap than crunch. Second batch was closer to 3/16 and was definitely truer to the original. Maybe try 1/4.

                                The baking time and temperature are extremely off. Even at 1/8 inch thick it took closer to 20 minutes to even get to just “golden on the edges”. At 1/4 the temp and time definitely need adjustments. I’m thinking 425 and 15 minutes.

                                The flavor isn’t quite right. It needs something else. Onion powder, brown sugar, MSG, honey, garlic powder, and spices are all listed as ingredients by the manufacturer but clone recipes don’t have any. The amounts must be pretty small. But they are obviously having an effect. I’m thinking brown sugar and onion are the biggest players but that Uncle Roger would want a pinch of MSG too.

                                Parchment paper bottom: yes Parchment paper top? No. Use wax paper for better separation when you peak it off.

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                                onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #15

                                Last Frito bag I looked at didn’t list any spices at all, just salt.

                                Curious.

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                                • FauxPseudo F FauxPseudo

                                  I thought about it. I think that oil added to the mixture I think is there to create bubbles while it’s baking. Dehydrating will create great dense chips. In addition to grammatically increasing the batch time

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                                  skyrmir@lemmy.world
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #16

                                  Looking at Fritos details. They’re using calcium hydroxide to create masa, which is probably where you’re starting, but then they extrude the mix before frying. That mechanical process affects the corn like kneading does for flour. Baking might not be needed at all.

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                                  • FauxPseudo F FauxPseudo

                                    80 grams of cornmeal
                                    295 grams (1.25 cups) boiling water.
                                    1 tsp salt.
                                    1 tsp oil

                                    Preheat oven to 375f.

                                    Mix the salt and cornmeal in a bowl.
                                    Add the boiling water and mix until you get a loose paste.
                                    Add in the oil and mix it in.

                                    Lay down a piece of parchment paper large enough to fit your baking sheet.
                                    Pour the mixture into the center of the paper. Put a second sheet of parchment paper on top.
                                    Roll out to 1/3 inch thick. Transfer to the baking sheet.
                                    Peal off the second sheet.
                                    Use a butter knife to score the batter into half inch strips and then again into two inch lengths.
                                    Bake until golden. Remove from oven and let cool.
                                    Break apart into individual chips. Deep fry at 350f for 1 to 2 minutes. Drain on paper towel. Sprinkle additional salt (optional). Cool and serve.

                                    Issues: Salt level is too high. Even 1 tsp of kosher salt is too much. Maybe 1/2 a tsp and a 1/4 tsp for dusting would be better.

                                    1/3 inch thick seems way to thick. First test batch wax 1/8 and was top thin. Resulted in more snap than crunch. Second batch was closer to 3/16 and was definitely truer to the original. Maybe try 1/4.

                                    The baking time and temperature are extremely off. Even at 1/8 inch thick it took closer to 20 minutes to even get to just “golden on the edges”. At 1/4 the temp and time definitely need adjustments. I’m thinking 425 and 15 minutes.

                                    The flavor isn’t quite right. It needs something else. Onion powder, brown sugar, MSG, honey, garlic powder, and spices are all listed as ingredients by the manufacturer but clone recipes don’t have any. The amounts must be pretty small. But they are obviously having an effect. I’m thinking brown sugar and onion are the biggest players but that Uncle Roger would want a pinch of MSG too.

                                    Parchment paper bottom: yes Parchment paper top? No. Use wax paper for better separation when you peak it off.

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                                    graybackgroundmusic@lemmy.zip
                                    wrote on last edited by
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                                    Just cornmeal? I thought fritos would be masa. Corn meal doesn’t make a good dough. You can’t make tortillas from it. You have to nixtamalize it

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                                    Makes corn meal pliable.

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                                    • G graybackgroundmusic@lemmy.zip

                                      Just cornmeal? I thought fritos would be masa. Corn meal doesn’t make a good dough. You can’t make tortillas from it. You have to nixtamalize it

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                                      Makes corn meal pliable.

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                                      FauxPseudo
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                                      That would result in a tortilla chip.

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                                      • FauxPseudo F FauxPseudo

                                        That would result in a tortilla chip.

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                                        graybackgroundmusic@lemmy.zip
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                                        Not exactly. Tortilla chips are dried before frying. Fritos are not.

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                                        • G graybackgroundmusic@lemmy.zip

                                          Not exactly. Tortilla chips are dried before frying. Fritos are not.

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                                          FauxPseudo
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                                          Tortilla chips are cooked before frying. But the key difference is that they are using masa not cornmeal. I’m sure that if I had a pressurized extruder with a cutting arm like an industrial pasta machine that there would be no reason to cook or dry these Fritos at all. They could go straight into the fryer.

                                          Nixtamalized corn would produce a very different texture than a Frito. I’m not even sure you could get nixtamalized corn in the granuale size that is visible in Fritos.

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