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    FauxPseudo
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    I use pork frequently in Italian recipes. When I do make a ground meat chili, I’m usually doing it in these super size batches. So I can get a big tube of ground beef or a lot of packs of ground pork. But I only do that about once or twice a year tops.

    If I’m making chili the day of the meal then I typically break out venison or go meatless.

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    • J Jiggle_Physics

      That was the total amount canned. They didn’t can 3 gallons of chili in one container.

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      FauxPseudo
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      I’m the one that canned it. I know.

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        A quart is a bit larger than a liter. Four of them make a US gallon.

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        qupada
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        A British quart is larger than a litre (≈1.14l), US quart is smaller (≈0.95l).

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        • FauxPseudo F FauxPseudo

          Back before ground beef doubled in price I would make a huge batch of chili for canning. I did the math in January of last year and it worked out to a 28% savings over buying it but the downside was that it cost $50 to make the batch.

          Of course the upsides were knowing every ingredient and here I am two weeks short of a year later eating chili that now costs way more to make because of beef cost increases.

          This time I added a can of black beans during the reheat because I didn’t feel like making corn bread.

          Cost per person: $3.06

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          ramenshaman@lemmy.world
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          I would destroy that right now.

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          • S spacenoodle@lemmy.world

            I’ve found that ground turkey makes a great substitute for ground beef in dishes like chili where the meat isn’t the main flavor (also see meatballs and meatloaf). It’s cheaper, lower in cholesterol, and a little more sustainable to boot.

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            JohnnyEnzyme
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            I’ve tried ground turkey in chili before, and as with most dishes where it’s not the featured item, it tends to almost completely disappear, flavor and texture-wise. I hate to say it, but ground beef or maybe finely-cut cube steak stands out far more to me and adds a hearty level of flavor that turkey just can’t.

            That said, nutritionally I’m not a fan of red meat at all, so mostly I just make veggie chili, with kidney beans usually being the featured player. Still quite delicious when I don’t boof it up, somehow.

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            • J JohnnyEnzyme

              I’ve tried ground turkey in chili before, and as with most dishes where it’s not the featured item, it tends to almost completely disappear, flavor and texture-wise. I hate to say it, but ground beef or maybe finely-cut cube steak stands out far more to me and adds a hearty level of flavor that turkey just can’t.

              That said, nutritionally I’m not a fan of red meat at all, so mostly I just make veggie chili, with kidney beans usually being the featured player. Still quite delicious when I don’t boof it up, somehow.

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              spacenoodle@lemmy.world
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              Not sure what you’re doing to cause the meat to disintegrate, but I’ve never had an issue with the texture. I do try to get a nice deep browning on each side of the flat of ground meat before turning, and cook the onions with.

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              • S spacenoodle@lemmy.world

                Not sure what you’re doing to cause the meat to disintegrate, but I’ve never had an issue with the texture. I do try to get a nice deep browning on each side of the flat of ground meat before turning, and cook the onions with.

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                JohnnyEnzyme
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                I didn’t say “disintegrate.” It’s that the ground turkey just barely registers as an ingredient of the dish.

                But, hmm… browning.
                I’m not sure I’ve ever tried that, and yet I seem to remember OP talking about that as something that can really boost meat’s flavor, I think?

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                • J JohnnyEnzyme

                  I’ve tried ground turkey in chili before, and as with most dishes where it’s not the featured item, it tends to almost completely disappear, flavor and texture-wise. I hate to say it, but ground beef or maybe finely-cut cube steak stands out far more to me and adds a hearty level of flavor that turkey just can’t.

                  That said, nutritionally I’m not a fan of red meat at all, so mostly I just make veggie chili, with kidney beans usually being the featured player. Still quite delicious when I don’t boof it up, somehow.

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                  aa5b@lemmy.world
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                  I’ll second that but also depends on the chili

                  • if I make chili, it’s intensely flavored and spicy. Ground turkey is oddly bland so doesn’t really work
                  • if my ex makes chili, it’s more of a mild bean and vegetable stew and ground turkey goes well with the other mild flavors
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                  • J JohnnyEnzyme

                    I didn’t say “disintegrate.” It’s that the ground turkey just barely registers as an ingredient of the dish.

                    But, hmm… browning.
                    I’m not sure I’ve ever tried that, and yet I seem to remember OP talking about that as something that can really boost meat’s flavor, I think?

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                    kelpie_returns@lemmy.world
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                    • J JohnnyEnzyme

                      Every canned or frozen chili around here is absolutely swimming in salt, and only one or two aren’t mediocre or downright weird-tasting (looking at you, Hormel). Plus, they all need to be zipped up with some sauteed onions, garlic, peppers, cheddar, more spices, maybe some cilantro and cumin seeds, etc, to really make the dish pop.

                      Give me fresh or homemade chili every time, hombre.

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                      angrycommiekender@lemmy.world
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                      To be clear, this is homemade chilli. They “canned” it themselves in Mason Jars. It makes long term storage much easier without a chest freezer.

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                      • A angrycommiekender@lemmy.world

                        To be clear, this is homemade chilli. They “canned” it themselves in Mason Jars. It makes long term storage much easier without a chest freezer.

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                        FauxPseudo
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                        I’ve had three freezers fail in the last 8 years. Not only is kidding, shelf-stable at room temperature so it doesn’t care about those kinds of things, but it stops it from taking up space in the freezer.

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                          disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world
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                          Thanks for the correction! I’ve memorized that the other way around.

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                          • FauxPseudo F FauxPseudo

                            I’ve had three freezers fail in the last 8 years. Not only is kidding, shelf-stable at room temperature so it doesn’t care about those kinds of things, but it stops it from taking up space in the freezer.

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                            rebekahwsd@lemmy.world
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                            Entire reason for me to can! So it won’t take up valuable fridge or freezer space!

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                            • J JohnnyEnzyme

                              I didn’t say “disintegrate.” It’s that the ground turkey just barely registers as an ingredient of the dish.

                              But, hmm… browning.
                              I’m not sure I’ve ever tried that, and yet I seem to remember OP talking about that as something that can really boost meat’s flavor, I think?

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                              spacenoodle@lemmy.world
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                              Browning meat is an essential step to just about any dish. The maillard reaction does an amazing amount of work.

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                                Browning meat is an essential step to just about any dish. The maillard reaction does an amazing amount of work.

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                                JohnnyEnzyme
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                                I thought the maillard reaction was based on temperature and time, not on specific cooking methods.

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                                  I thought the maillard reaction was based on temperature and time, not on specific cooking methods.

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                                  spacenoodle@lemmy.world
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                                  Applying the combination of temperature and time is method. High temperature over a short period of time results in the creation of “umami” compounds.

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                                    Applying the combination of temperature and time is method. High temperature over a short period of time results in the creation of “umami” compounds.

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                                    JohnnyEnzyme
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                                    Okay, so to be clear-- browning via searing is just one of many, many ways to achieve the result. For example, simply by sprinkling ground turkey in to the chili dish, then cooking around 300°F for an adequate time will produce the maillard reaction in the turkey (plus whatever other ingredients), right?

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                                      Okay, so to be clear-- browning via searing is just one of many, many ways to achieve the result. For example, simply by sprinkling ground turkey in to the chili dish, then cooking around 300°F for an adequate time will produce the maillard reaction in the turkey (plus whatever other ingredients), right?

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                                      spacenoodle@lemmy.world
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                                      No, because the meat won’t actually reach that temperature. Anything simmering on a stove will reach a maximum temperature of 212°F.

                                      You could spread the meat on a sheet pan and broil it, form it (perhaps with a binder) around skewers and char it on a grill, or set it on a fireproof surface and take a blowtorch to it, though. But browning in a pan, turning, and chunking can yield a more even browning with an end result of chunks of meat at the desired granularity - plus you can do the onions at the same time.

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                                      • S spacenoodle@lemmy.world

                                        No, because the meat won’t actually reach that temperature. Anything simmering on a stove will reach a maximum temperature of 212°F.

                                        You could spread the meat on a sheet pan and broil it, form it (perhaps with a binder) around skewers and char it on a grill, or set it on a fireproof surface and take a blowtorch to it, though. But browning in a pan, turning, and chunking can yield a more even browning with an end result of chunks of meat at the desired granularity - plus you can do the onions at the same time.

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                                        JohnnyEnzyme
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                                        Ohhhhh…
                                        Well, I’ll be danged. Thanks for the tips and information!

                                        Are you a chef, perchance?

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                                          Ohhhhh…
                                          Well, I’ll be danged. Thanks for the tips and information!

                                          Are you a chef, perchance?

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                                          spacenoodle@lemmy.world
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                                          People keep asking me that. Nope, just an engineer who really likes food. By learning first principles, I can understand what causes certain results to come from various ingredients and the methods that are applied there to.

                                          If you want to start going down the rabbit hole, Alton Brown had made a lot of this very accessible, especially in his show Good Eats; if you prefer textbooks, Harold McGee’s On Food and Cooking is a definitive work.

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