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  • mekka okereke :verified:M mekka okereke :verified:

    Periodic reminder: I've already said many times that I think Fediverse (or at least a future flavor of it) wins in the end. It's too asymmetrically powerful in its ability to resist centralized pressure from very rich fashy tech bros. The inter-instance infighting and Fediverse drama of the month that we lament, is actually its strength.

    This has very little to do with *technical* decentralization. It is about *social* decentralization. Mastodon mega instances are not socially decentralized. But the human building blocks for evolving to many smaller instances, are there.

    And every time another social media platform messes up, there is a net flow of users towards alternatives, usually Fediverse, but often other platforms too. So if BlueSky does one day flip and turn just like Twitter, there will be a flow from there to here too.

    So yay, Fediverse wins in the end. But we're not at the end. We're not even in the middle. Fediverse is still not ready to be the place.

    There are things to learn from BlueSky. I'm not interested in having a debate on this with anyone. If you don't think that there is anything to learn, then fine. I respect your opinion. But please keep that opinion out of my mentions.

    If you're selfish enough to think "Fediverse works for me, and don't really care if millions of Black people aren't welcome here, and therefore have to use other platforms that also mistreat them," also fine. But again, please keep that opinion out of my mentions. I'm not Charlie Kirk and I'm not Steven Crowder. I don't want to debate you. I don't want to try to change your mind. And you won't change mine.

    Because nothing you say will get me to stop supporting Fediverse and ATProto safety projects.

    I'm stubborn like that.

    Nullstring 🏴‍☠️0 This user is from outside of this forum
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    #2

    @mekkaokereke i'm glad you post on fedi, neighbor, itd be worse without you

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    • mekka okereke :verified:M mekka okereke :verified:

      Periodic reminder: I've already said many times that I think Fediverse (or at least a future flavor of it) wins in the end. It's too asymmetrically powerful in its ability to resist centralized pressure from very rich fashy tech bros. The inter-instance infighting and Fediverse drama of the month that we lament, is actually its strength.

      This has very little to do with *technical* decentralization. It is about *social* decentralization. Mastodon mega instances are not socially decentralized. But the human building blocks for evolving to many smaller instances, are there.

      And every time another social media platform messes up, there is a net flow of users towards alternatives, usually Fediverse, but often other platforms too. So if BlueSky does one day flip and turn just like Twitter, there will be a flow from there to here too.

      So yay, Fediverse wins in the end. But we're not at the end. We're not even in the middle. Fediverse is still not ready to be the place.

      There are things to learn from BlueSky. I'm not interested in having a debate on this with anyone. If you don't think that there is anything to learn, then fine. I respect your opinion. But please keep that opinion out of my mentions.

      If you're selfish enough to think "Fediverse works for me, and don't really care if millions of Black people aren't welcome here, and therefore have to use other platforms that also mistreat them," also fine. But again, please keep that opinion out of my mentions. I'm not Charlie Kirk and I'm not Steven Crowder. I don't want to debate you. I don't want to try to change your mind. And you won't change mine.

      Because nothing you say will get me to stop supporting Fediverse and ATProto safety projects.

      I'm stubborn like that.

      caoimhín o'cuilleainK This user is from outside of this forum
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      caoimhín o'cuilleain
      wrote last edited by
      #3

      @mekkaokereke 💯

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      • mekka okereke :verified:M mekka okereke :verified:

        Periodic reminder: I've already said many times that I think Fediverse (or at least a future flavor of it) wins in the end. It's too asymmetrically powerful in its ability to resist centralized pressure from very rich fashy tech bros. The inter-instance infighting and Fediverse drama of the month that we lament, is actually its strength.

        This has very little to do with *technical* decentralization. It is about *social* decentralization. Mastodon mega instances are not socially decentralized. But the human building blocks for evolving to many smaller instances, are there.

        And every time another social media platform messes up, there is a net flow of users towards alternatives, usually Fediverse, but often other platforms too. So if BlueSky does one day flip and turn just like Twitter, there will be a flow from there to here too.

        So yay, Fediverse wins in the end. But we're not at the end. We're not even in the middle. Fediverse is still not ready to be the place.

        There are things to learn from BlueSky. I'm not interested in having a debate on this with anyone. If you don't think that there is anything to learn, then fine. I respect your opinion. But please keep that opinion out of my mentions.

        If you're selfish enough to think "Fediverse works for me, and don't really care if millions of Black people aren't welcome here, and therefore have to use other platforms that also mistreat them," also fine. But again, please keep that opinion out of my mentions. I'm not Charlie Kirk and I'm not Steven Crowder. I don't want to debate you. I don't want to try to change your mind. And you won't change mine.

        Because nothing you say will get me to stop supporting Fediverse and ATProto safety projects.

        I'm stubborn like that.

        cuan_knaggsM This user is from outside of this forum
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        cuan_knaggs
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        #4

        @mekkaokereke actually decentralized social tech: email, rss, irc, bbs, activityPub, ... all functionally unkillable while there's a working internet

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        • mekka okereke :verified:M mekka okereke :verified:

          Periodic reminder: I've already said many times that I think Fediverse (or at least a future flavor of it) wins in the end. It's too asymmetrically powerful in its ability to resist centralized pressure from very rich fashy tech bros. The inter-instance infighting and Fediverse drama of the month that we lament, is actually its strength.

          This has very little to do with *technical* decentralization. It is about *social* decentralization. Mastodon mega instances are not socially decentralized. But the human building blocks for evolving to many smaller instances, are there.

          And every time another social media platform messes up, there is a net flow of users towards alternatives, usually Fediverse, but often other platforms too. So if BlueSky does one day flip and turn just like Twitter, there will be a flow from there to here too.

          So yay, Fediverse wins in the end. But we're not at the end. We're not even in the middle. Fediverse is still not ready to be the place.

          There are things to learn from BlueSky. I'm not interested in having a debate on this with anyone. If you don't think that there is anything to learn, then fine. I respect your opinion. But please keep that opinion out of my mentions.

          If you're selfish enough to think "Fediverse works for me, and don't really care if millions of Black people aren't welcome here, and therefore have to use other platforms that also mistreat them," also fine. But again, please keep that opinion out of my mentions. I'm not Charlie Kirk and I'm not Steven Crowder. I don't want to debate you. I don't want to try to change your mind. And you won't change mine.

          Because nothing you say will get me to stop supporting Fediverse and ATProto safety projects.

          I'm stubborn like that.

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          #5

          @mekkaokereke you are right. BlackSky alone changed the user demographics and created a marginaly more culturally protected environment than Black Twitter. I wish I could see the like in Fediverse but hsve not found it.

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          • mekka okereke :verified:M mekka okereke :verified:

            Periodic reminder: I've already said many times that I think Fediverse (or at least a future flavor of it) wins in the end. It's too asymmetrically powerful in its ability to resist centralized pressure from very rich fashy tech bros. The inter-instance infighting and Fediverse drama of the month that we lament, is actually its strength.

            This has very little to do with *technical* decentralization. It is about *social* decentralization. Mastodon mega instances are not socially decentralized. But the human building blocks for evolving to many smaller instances, are there.

            And every time another social media platform messes up, there is a net flow of users towards alternatives, usually Fediverse, but often other platforms too. So if BlueSky does one day flip and turn just like Twitter, there will be a flow from there to here too.

            So yay, Fediverse wins in the end. But we're not at the end. We're not even in the middle. Fediverse is still not ready to be the place.

            There are things to learn from BlueSky. I'm not interested in having a debate on this with anyone. If you don't think that there is anything to learn, then fine. I respect your opinion. But please keep that opinion out of my mentions.

            If you're selfish enough to think "Fediverse works for me, and don't really care if millions of Black people aren't welcome here, and therefore have to use other platforms that also mistreat them," also fine. But again, please keep that opinion out of my mentions. I'm not Charlie Kirk and I'm not Steven Crowder. I don't want to debate you. I don't want to try to change your mind. And you won't change mine.

            Because nothing you say will get me to stop supporting Fediverse and ATProto safety projects.

            I'm stubborn like that.

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            wrote last edited by
            #6

            @mekkaokereke
            glad you are here and posting this. I totally agree that the tech has evolved enough now that the future will belong to decentralized spaces like the fediverse.

            as an average middle aged cis white dude, I am part of the current problem but i want to be part of the solution in every way that I can.

            The faster we can make black people and others feel more welcome here, the better for all of us.

            The faster mastodon, and the fedi, becomes a reflection of the infinite diversity of humanity, and welcomes that, the better.

            again.
            thank you.

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            • Chris Alemany🇺🇦🇨🇦🇪🇸C Chris Alemany🇺🇦🇨🇦🇪🇸

              @mekkaokereke
              glad you are here and posting this. I totally agree that the tech has evolved enough now that the future will belong to decentralized spaces like the fediverse.

              as an average middle aged cis white dude, I am part of the current problem but i want to be part of the solution in every way that I can.

              The faster we can make black people and others feel more welcome here, the better for all of us.

              The faster mastodon, and the fedi, becomes a reflection of the infinite diversity of humanity, and welcomes that, the better.

              again.
              thank you.

              Stefan BohacekS This user is from outside of this forum
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              #7

              @chris @mekkaokereke Seconding all of this!

              Grateful for all the Black voices who continue to push for a more diverse fediverse, big part of the reason why I'm still hopeful about its future myself.

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              • mekka okereke :verified:M mekka okereke :verified:

                Periodic reminder: I've already said many times that I think Fediverse (or at least a future flavor of it) wins in the end. It's too asymmetrically powerful in its ability to resist centralized pressure from very rich fashy tech bros. The inter-instance infighting and Fediverse drama of the month that we lament, is actually its strength.

                This has very little to do with *technical* decentralization. It is about *social* decentralization. Mastodon mega instances are not socially decentralized. But the human building blocks for evolving to many smaller instances, are there.

                And every time another social media platform messes up, there is a net flow of users towards alternatives, usually Fediverse, but often other platforms too. So if BlueSky does one day flip and turn just like Twitter, there will be a flow from there to here too.

                So yay, Fediverse wins in the end. But we're not at the end. We're not even in the middle. Fediverse is still not ready to be the place.

                There are things to learn from BlueSky. I'm not interested in having a debate on this with anyone. If you don't think that there is anything to learn, then fine. I respect your opinion. But please keep that opinion out of my mentions.

                If you're selfish enough to think "Fediverse works for me, and don't really care if millions of Black people aren't welcome here, and therefore have to use other platforms that also mistreat them," also fine. But again, please keep that opinion out of my mentions. I'm not Charlie Kirk and I'm not Steven Crowder. I don't want to debate you. I don't want to try to change your mind. And you won't change mine.

                Because nothing you say will get me to stop supporting Fediverse and ATProto safety projects.

                I'm stubborn like that.

                mndnauM This user is from outside of this forum
                mndnauM This user is from outside of this forum
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                #8

                @mekkaokereke ltrly been thinking abt this for a while. i love the fediverse for its tech & how it has the potential to organize outreach & build social connections, but ltrly the majority of posts i see in the live feeds here are by yt ppl often talking abt esoteric special interest technology, video games, or just shitposting, and nobody seems to call it out or notice??? the politics is satire w no focus on material praxis; there's sometimes blatant ableism, and all this makes it feel like the fediverse is a cozy space w/o focus on solidarity. the posts i've seen abt ICE in the last 24 hrs have been: 'they suck'; 'here's a white musician doing a song abt how they suck' & 'they really suck', not 'what can i do to help my local bipoc community?' or 'pls link me poc talking abt their exps & mutual aid' or 'how can i decolonize?', whereas the ppl i keep up w on insta r CONSISTENTLY doing unpaid labor writing & sharing resources, linking charity work for ppl & tryna get ppl to actually listen & do smth, yk?😭

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                • mekka okereke :verified:M mekka okereke :verified:

                  Periodic reminder: I've already said many times that I think Fediverse (or at least a future flavor of it) wins in the end. It's too asymmetrically powerful in its ability to resist centralized pressure from very rich fashy tech bros. The inter-instance infighting and Fediverse drama of the month that we lament, is actually its strength.

                  This has very little to do with *technical* decentralization. It is about *social* decentralization. Mastodon mega instances are not socially decentralized. But the human building blocks for evolving to many smaller instances, are there.

                  And every time another social media platform messes up, there is a net flow of users towards alternatives, usually Fediverse, but often other platforms too. So if BlueSky does one day flip and turn just like Twitter, there will be a flow from there to here too.

                  So yay, Fediverse wins in the end. But we're not at the end. We're not even in the middle. Fediverse is still not ready to be the place.

                  There are things to learn from BlueSky. I'm not interested in having a debate on this with anyone. If you don't think that there is anything to learn, then fine. I respect your opinion. But please keep that opinion out of my mentions.

                  If you're selfish enough to think "Fediverse works for me, and don't really care if millions of Black people aren't welcome here, and therefore have to use other platforms that also mistreat them," also fine. But again, please keep that opinion out of my mentions. I'm not Charlie Kirk and I'm not Steven Crowder. I don't want to debate you. I don't want to try to change your mind. And you won't change mine.

                  Because nothing you say will get me to stop supporting Fediverse and ATProto safety projects.

                  I'm stubborn like that.

                  mndnauM This user is from outside of this forum
                  mndnauM This user is from outside of this forum
                  mndnau
                  wrote last edited by
                  #9

                  @mekkaokereke also, was going to ask in my last toot but i ran out of chars: as some1 who doesn't know literally anything abt bluesky, r u happy to share some of the things youve learned from the platform?

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                  • mekka okereke :verified:M mekka okereke :verified:

                    Periodic reminder: I've already said many times that I think Fediverse (or at least a future flavor of it) wins in the end. It's too asymmetrically powerful in its ability to resist centralized pressure from very rich fashy tech bros. The inter-instance infighting and Fediverse drama of the month that we lament, is actually its strength.

                    This has very little to do with *technical* decentralization. It is about *social* decentralization. Mastodon mega instances are not socially decentralized. But the human building blocks for evolving to many smaller instances, are there.

                    And every time another social media platform messes up, there is a net flow of users towards alternatives, usually Fediverse, but often other platforms too. So if BlueSky does one day flip and turn just like Twitter, there will be a flow from there to here too.

                    So yay, Fediverse wins in the end. But we're not at the end. We're not even in the middle. Fediverse is still not ready to be the place.

                    There are things to learn from BlueSky. I'm not interested in having a debate on this with anyone. If you don't think that there is anything to learn, then fine. I respect your opinion. But please keep that opinion out of my mentions.

                    If you're selfish enough to think "Fediverse works for me, and don't really care if millions of Black people aren't welcome here, and therefore have to use other platforms that also mistreat them," also fine. But again, please keep that opinion out of my mentions. I'm not Charlie Kirk and I'm not Steven Crowder. I don't want to debate you. I don't want to try to change your mind. And you won't change mine.

                    Because nothing you say will get me to stop supporting Fediverse and ATProto safety projects.

                    I'm stubborn like that.

                    PrizmoU This user is from outside of this forum
                    PrizmoU This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #10

                    @mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io do you think projects like Bonfire are a step in the right direction?

                    mekka okereke :verified:M 1 Reply Last reply
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                    • mekka okereke :verified:M mekka okereke :verified:

                      Periodic reminder: I've already said many times that I think Fediverse (or at least a future flavor of it) wins in the end. It's too asymmetrically powerful in its ability to resist centralized pressure from very rich fashy tech bros. The inter-instance infighting and Fediverse drama of the month that we lament, is actually its strength.

                      This has very little to do with *technical* decentralization. It is about *social* decentralization. Mastodon mega instances are not socially decentralized. But the human building blocks for evolving to many smaller instances, are there.

                      And every time another social media platform messes up, there is a net flow of users towards alternatives, usually Fediverse, but often other platforms too. So if BlueSky does one day flip and turn just like Twitter, there will be a flow from there to here too.

                      So yay, Fediverse wins in the end. But we're not at the end. We're not even in the middle. Fediverse is still not ready to be the place.

                      There are things to learn from BlueSky. I'm not interested in having a debate on this with anyone. If you don't think that there is anything to learn, then fine. I respect your opinion. But please keep that opinion out of my mentions.

                      If you're selfish enough to think "Fediverse works for me, and don't really care if millions of Black people aren't welcome here, and therefore have to use other platforms that also mistreat them," also fine. But again, please keep that opinion out of my mentions. I'm not Charlie Kirk and I'm not Steven Crowder. I don't want to debate you. I don't want to try to change your mind. And you won't change mine.

                      Because nothing you say will get me to stop supporting Fediverse and ATProto safety projects.

                      I'm stubborn like that.

                      Captain SuperlativeC This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #11

                      @mekkaokereke

                      Well said.

                      Same here.

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                      • mekka okereke :verified:M mekka okereke :verified:

                        Periodic reminder: I've already said many times that I think Fediverse (or at least a future flavor of it) wins in the end. It's too asymmetrically powerful in its ability to resist centralized pressure from very rich fashy tech bros. The inter-instance infighting and Fediverse drama of the month that we lament, is actually its strength.

                        This has very little to do with *technical* decentralization. It is about *social* decentralization. Mastodon mega instances are not socially decentralized. But the human building blocks for evolving to many smaller instances, are there.

                        And every time another social media platform messes up, there is a net flow of users towards alternatives, usually Fediverse, but often other platforms too. So if BlueSky does one day flip and turn just like Twitter, there will be a flow from there to here too.

                        So yay, Fediverse wins in the end. But we're not at the end. We're not even in the middle. Fediverse is still not ready to be the place.

                        There are things to learn from BlueSky. I'm not interested in having a debate on this with anyone. If you don't think that there is anything to learn, then fine. I respect your opinion. But please keep that opinion out of my mentions.

                        If you're selfish enough to think "Fediverse works for me, and don't really care if millions of Black people aren't welcome here, and therefore have to use other platforms that also mistreat them," also fine. But again, please keep that opinion out of my mentions. I'm not Charlie Kirk and I'm not Steven Crowder. I don't want to debate you. I don't want to try to change your mind. And you won't change mine.

                        Because nothing you say will get me to stop supporting Fediverse and ATProto safety projects.

                        I'm stubborn like that.

                        Charles EubanksF This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #12

                        @mekkaokereke I’m so happy you’re here. The amount I’ve learned from you is priceless.

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                        • PrizmoU Prizmo

                          @mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io do you think projects like Bonfire are a step in the right direction?

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                          @unsafelyhotboots

                          I do!

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                          • mekka okereke :verified:M mekka okereke :verified:

                            Periodic reminder: I've already said many times that I think Fediverse (or at least a future flavor of it) wins in the end. It's too asymmetrically powerful in its ability to resist centralized pressure from very rich fashy tech bros. The inter-instance infighting and Fediverse drama of the month that we lament, is actually its strength.

                            This has very little to do with *technical* decentralization. It is about *social* decentralization. Mastodon mega instances are not socially decentralized. But the human building blocks for evolving to many smaller instances, are there.

                            And every time another social media platform messes up, there is a net flow of users towards alternatives, usually Fediverse, but often other platforms too. So if BlueSky does one day flip and turn just like Twitter, there will be a flow from there to here too.

                            So yay, Fediverse wins in the end. But we're not at the end. We're not even in the middle. Fediverse is still not ready to be the place.

                            There are things to learn from BlueSky. I'm not interested in having a debate on this with anyone. If you don't think that there is anything to learn, then fine. I respect your opinion. But please keep that opinion out of my mentions.

                            If you're selfish enough to think "Fediverse works for me, and don't really care if millions of Black people aren't welcome here, and therefore have to use other platforms that also mistreat them," also fine. But again, please keep that opinion out of my mentions. I'm not Charlie Kirk and I'm not Steven Crowder. I don't want to debate you. I don't want to try to change your mind. And you won't change mine.

                            Because nothing you say will get me to stop supporting Fediverse and ATProto safety projects.

                            I'm stubborn like that.

                            Chris JohnsonC This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #14

                            @mekkaokereke 100% agree! There's always something to learn and room for improvement.

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                            • mekka okereke :verified:M mekka okereke :verified:

                              Periodic reminder: I've already said many times that I think Fediverse (or at least a future flavor of it) wins in the end. It's too asymmetrically powerful in its ability to resist centralized pressure from very rich fashy tech bros. The inter-instance infighting and Fediverse drama of the month that we lament, is actually its strength.

                              This has very little to do with *technical* decentralization. It is about *social* decentralization. Mastodon mega instances are not socially decentralized. But the human building blocks for evolving to many smaller instances, are there.

                              And every time another social media platform messes up, there is a net flow of users towards alternatives, usually Fediverse, but often other platforms too. So if BlueSky does one day flip and turn just like Twitter, there will be a flow from there to here too.

                              So yay, Fediverse wins in the end. But we're not at the end. We're not even in the middle. Fediverse is still not ready to be the place.

                              There are things to learn from BlueSky. I'm not interested in having a debate on this with anyone. If you don't think that there is anything to learn, then fine. I respect your opinion. But please keep that opinion out of my mentions.

                              If you're selfish enough to think "Fediverse works for me, and don't really care if millions of Black people aren't welcome here, and therefore have to use other platforms that also mistreat them," also fine. But again, please keep that opinion out of my mentions. I'm not Charlie Kirk and I'm not Steven Crowder. I don't want to debate you. I don't want to try to change your mind. And you won't change mine.

                              Because nothing you say will get me to stop supporting Fediverse and ATProto safety projects.

                              I'm stubborn like that.

                              gabboman the wafrn devG This user is from outside of this forum
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                              gabboman the wafrn dev
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                              do you think reply control GTS style is pushing fedi in the good direction? what other tool would you recomend?

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                              • mndnauM mndnau

                                @mekkaokereke also, was going to ask in my last toot but i ran out of chars: as some1 who doesn't know literally anything abt bluesky, r u happy to share some of the things youve learned from the platform?

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                                @mndnau

                                Here are two good things that have been learned /borrowed from. No, they didn't originate any of these ideas.

                                1. Composable Moderation is good:

                                mekka okereke :verified: (@mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io)

                                @dsmdexter@mastodon.social Example 1. Admin: Supposed I'm a white dude new Mastodon instance admin. I start a small instance, "AussieFrisbeePups of Bay Area." It's an instance of around 100 Australian Shepherd Frisbee enthusiasts in the Bay Area.🐶🥏 I have no experience with moderating content from the darkest corners of the web, and don't want to learn it. I just like dogs and frisbees! But some of my users are Black women, and I want them to have a good time on my instance too. But I'm not sure I have the cultural education to moderate posts effectively. What to do? One of my white users posts that their dog has "nappy hair." Is that racist? Should I... do something? Am I overthinking this? No report has been filed? Is it racist to ask a Black user what they think I should do? Is it racist not to? This is getting complicated... Now imagine if as part of Mastodon instance setup, the configuration software asks me about labeling services that I can subscribe to. One is called BlackSky. BlackSky will label all posts with tags that I can act on. See the labels that can be applied here: https://bsky.app/profile/blacksky.app In addition to block lists that I can subscribe to, I can also subscribe to labeling services. Example 2. User: Now imagine that as a user on AussieFrisbeePups, I have a particular vulnerability to eating disorder triggering content. People posting either their weight loss diets or baking pastry creations is not bad, it's just bad *for me*. I'm told that I shouldn't ask people, especially Black people, to CW label stuff all the time? But it hurts me to see it. I wish someone would label food content for me! Now imagine if I as a user can subscribe to a labeling service that warns me about eating disorder triggering posts. Example 3. User: Now imagine I am a dog breeder in Australia. I have no problem at all with US people talking about their messed up politics all the time, but it's just not something I want taking up so much of my feed. But I get yelled at when I tell Americans to put a "uspol" label on things, especially Black people. Am I racist when I say, "please use uspol?" I wish someone would label US politics posts for me, so that I can see the AussieFrisbeePups content but not hear about fashy stuff all the time.

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                                2. Giving people the ability to detach their post from Quote Posts, is good. If you Quote Post me to add context, I can keep it! If you Quote Post me to drag me, and I kinda deserve it, I can also keep it! But if you Quote Post me and I'm not enjoying the experience, I can detach your Quote Post from my post, and live in peace.

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                                • mekka okereke :verified:M mekka okereke :verified:

                                  Periodic reminder: I've already said many times that I think Fediverse (or at least a future flavor of it) wins in the end. It's too asymmetrically powerful in its ability to resist centralized pressure from very rich fashy tech bros. The inter-instance infighting and Fediverse drama of the month that we lament, is actually its strength.

                                  This has very little to do with *technical* decentralization. It is about *social* decentralization. Mastodon mega instances are not socially decentralized. But the human building blocks for evolving to many smaller instances, are there.

                                  And every time another social media platform messes up, there is a net flow of users towards alternatives, usually Fediverse, but often other platforms too. So if BlueSky does one day flip and turn just like Twitter, there will be a flow from there to here too.

                                  So yay, Fediverse wins in the end. But we're not at the end. We're not even in the middle. Fediverse is still not ready to be the place.

                                  There are things to learn from BlueSky. I'm not interested in having a debate on this with anyone. If you don't think that there is anything to learn, then fine. I respect your opinion. But please keep that opinion out of my mentions.

                                  If you're selfish enough to think "Fediverse works for me, and don't really care if millions of Black people aren't welcome here, and therefore have to use other platforms that also mistreat them," also fine. But again, please keep that opinion out of my mentions. I'm not Charlie Kirk and I'm not Steven Crowder. I don't want to debate you. I don't want to try to change your mind. And you won't change mine.

                                  Because nothing you say will get me to stop supporting Fediverse and ATProto safety projects.

                                  I'm stubborn like that.

                                  tom jenningsT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @mekkaokereke

                                  ... And i for one believe you are exactly correct.

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                                  • mekka okereke :verified:M mekka okereke :verified:

                                    Periodic reminder: I've already said many times that I think Fediverse (or at least a future flavor of it) wins in the end. It's too asymmetrically powerful in its ability to resist centralized pressure from very rich fashy tech bros. The inter-instance infighting and Fediverse drama of the month that we lament, is actually its strength.

                                    This has very little to do with *technical* decentralization. It is about *social* decentralization. Mastodon mega instances are not socially decentralized. But the human building blocks for evolving to many smaller instances, are there.

                                    And every time another social media platform messes up, there is a net flow of users towards alternatives, usually Fediverse, but often other platforms too. So if BlueSky does one day flip and turn just like Twitter, there will be a flow from there to here too.

                                    So yay, Fediverse wins in the end. But we're not at the end. We're not even in the middle. Fediverse is still not ready to be the place.

                                    There are things to learn from BlueSky. I'm not interested in having a debate on this with anyone. If you don't think that there is anything to learn, then fine. I respect your opinion. But please keep that opinion out of my mentions.

                                    If you're selfish enough to think "Fediverse works for me, and don't really care if millions of Black people aren't welcome here, and therefore have to use other platforms that also mistreat them," also fine. But again, please keep that opinion out of my mentions. I'm not Charlie Kirk and I'm not Steven Crowder. I don't want to debate you. I don't want to try to change your mind. And you won't change mine.

                                    Because nothing you say will get me to stop supporting Fediverse and ATProto safety projects.

                                    I'm stubborn like that.

                                    May Likes TorontoM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @mekkaokereke no one is safe until we're all safe. ❤️

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                                    • mekka okereke :verified:M mekka okereke :verified:

                                      Periodic reminder: I've already said many times that I think Fediverse (or at least a future flavor of it) wins in the end. It's too asymmetrically powerful in its ability to resist centralized pressure from very rich fashy tech bros. The inter-instance infighting and Fediverse drama of the month that we lament, is actually its strength.

                                      This has very little to do with *technical* decentralization. It is about *social* decentralization. Mastodon mega instances are not socially decentralized. But the human building blocks for evolving to many smaller instances, are there.

                                      And every time another social media platform messes up, there is a net flow of users towards alternatives, usually Fediverse, but often other platforms too. So if BlueSky does one day flip and turn just like Twitter, there will be a flow from there to here too.

                                      So yay, Fediverse wins in the end. But we're not at the end. We're not even in the middle. Fediverse is still not ready to be the place.

                                      There are things to learn from BlueSky. I'm not interested in having a debate on this with anyone. If you don't think that there is anything to learn, then fine. I respect your opinion. But please keep that opinion out of my mentions.

                                      If you're selfish enough to think "Fediverse works for me, and don't really care if millions of Black people aren't welcome here, and therefore have to use other platforms that also mistreat them," also fine. But again, please keep that opinion out of my mentions. I'm not Charlie Kirk and I'm not Steven Crowder. I don't want to debate you. I don't want to try to change your mind. And you won't change mine.

                                      Because nothing you say will get me to stop supporting Fediverse and ATProto safety projects.

                                      I'm stubborn like that.

                                      Kit Rhett AultmanR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      Kit Rhett Aultman
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                                      @mekkaokereke I absolutely feel you in what you're saying. And I believe in learning from anything I can.

                                      I will also say that my instance has 10 users, of which like 3 are regularly active. I never know what the Fediverse drama of the month is because it goes sailing past my tiny instance. I see my friends and follows and they see me. That's enough.

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                                      • mekka okereke :verified:M mekka okereke :verified:

                                        Periodic reminder: I've already said many times that I think Fediverse (or at least a future flavor of it) wins in the end. It's too asymmetrically powerful in its ability to resist centralized pressure from very rich fashy tech bros. The inter-instance infighting and Fediverse drama of the month that we lament, is actually its strength.

                                        This has very little to do with *technical* decentralization. It is about *social* decentralization. Mastodon mega instances are not socially decentralized. But the human building blocks for evolving to many smaller instances, are there.

                                        And every time another social media platform messes up, there is a net flow of users towards alternatives, usually Fediverse, but often other platforms too. So if BlueSky does one day flip and turn just like Twitter, there will be a flow from there to here too.

                                        So yay, Fediverse wins in the end. But we're not at the end. We're not even in the middle. Fediverse is still not ready to be the place.

                                        There are things to learn from BlueSky. I'm not interested in having a debate on this with anyone. If you don't think that there is anything to learn, then fine. I respect your opinion. But please keep that opinion out of my mentions.

                                        If you're selfish enough to think "Fediverse works for me, and don't really care if millions of Black people aren't welcome here, and therefore have to use other platforms that also mistreat them," also fine. But again, please keep that opinion out of my mentions. I'm not Charlie Kirk and I'm not Steven Crowder. I don't want to debate you. I don't want to try to change your mind. And you won't change mine.

                                        Because nothing you say will get me to stop supporting Fediverse and ATProto safety projects.

                                        I'm stubborn like that.

                                        Jakub Steiner ⭐J This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @mekkaokereke I still feel the core bit — incentive to decentralize — is fragile. You really have to understand the dangers of sticking to the most convenient instance. I may not post on x, bluesky, but picking an instance that might not be here next year is a hard sell (even if moving around was architecturally thought of). Yet another thing to feel bad about (for being more lazy than principled).

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