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We are excited to share that we are beginning work on a new onboarding experiment for #Mastodon: Default Server Recommendations.

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  • MastodonM Mastodon

    We are excited to share that we are beginning work on a new onboarding experiment for #Mastodon: Default Server Recommendations.

    Our intent for this experiment is to recommend the closest server geographically that is in the correct language during the sign-up flow. We will be running this experiment on our iOS and Android apps only to start.

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    George BG This user is from outside of this forum
    George BG This user is from outside of this forum
    George B
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    #20

    @Mastodon

    @FediTips you should boost this to the admins of servers you have recommended on http://fedi.garden

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    • MastodonM Mastodon

      Starting now, we’re recruiting general purpose servers with open sign-ups. To be eligible, servers must:

      - Run default Mastodon (for now)
      - Agree to the Server Covenant
      - Have existed for 1+ year
      - Have shut-down & disaster plans

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      Aral BalkanA This user is from outside of this forum
      Aral BalkanA This user is from outside of this forum
      Aral Balkan
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      #21

      @Mastodon This is a link to the server covenant:

      Link Preview Image
      Mastodon Server Covenant for joinmastodon.org

      favicon

      (joinmastodon.org)

      One important question – and one we’ve discussed together – is which definition of antisemitism are you going with? I’d appreciate it if you could state the decision you’ve reached on this publicly. Crucially, is it one that conflates opposition to Zionism, Israel, and the ongoing genocide of the Palestinian people with being bigoted against Jewish people or not? This is key in knowing whether only Zionist, pro-Israel, pro-genocide Mastodon servers will be featured in recommendations or not.

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      • MastodonM Mastodon

        Starting now, we’re recruiting general purpose servers with open sign-ups. To be eligible, servers must:

        - Run default Mastodon (for now)
        - Agree to the Server Covenant
        - Have existed for 1+ year
        - Have shut-down & disaster plans

        4/6

        ColinC This user is from outside of this forum
        ColinC This user is from outside of this forum
        Colin
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        #22

        @Mastodon besides geographical location, are there going to be any filters for like, interests or core topics etc?

        A gardening and plant instance is going to have a different vibe from the software/hardware developer instance, etc.

        It would be a neat to be a part of this, but only if relevant users/signups are being directed.

        Edit: "General Purpose Servers" ah.. missed that keyword (figured that would've been mentioned again earlier?). /ht: https://tyrol.social/@nitrml/115989922418887309

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        • Aral BalkanA Aral Balkan

          @Mastodon This is a link to the server covenant:

          Link Preview Image
          Mastodon Server Covenant for joinmastodon.org

          favicon

          (joinmastodon.org)

          One important question – and one we’ve discussed together – is which definition of antisemitism are you going with? I’d appreciate it if you could state the decision you’ve reached on this publicly. Crucially, is it one that conflates opposition to Zionism, Israel, and the ongoing genocide of the Palestinian people with being bigoted against Jewish people or not? This is key in knowing whether only Zionist, pro-Israel, pro-genocide Mastodon servers will be featured in recommendations or not.

          Chad - x :mstdn:C This user is from outside of this forum
          Chad - x :mstdn:C This user is from outside of this forum
          Chad - x :mstdn:
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          #23

          @aral for us in Canada, we align with the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, and still are green in terms of the Covenant.

          There's protected speech, and there's unprotected speech, and that is what we abide by.

          Being a purely geographical instance, I know we enjoy being able to defer these decisions.

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          • MastodonM Mastodon

            If you’re interested in participating in this experiment, please let us know by filling out this form.

            (sorry it’s in Google docs)

            https://forms.gle/7uRui5VnMPfEYAgq8

            5/6

            thomkennonT This user is from outside of this forum
            thomkennonT This user is from outside of this forum
            thomkennon
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            #24

            @Mastodon google docs wtf?!... switch asap to Cryptpad comrades for stuff like this

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            • MastodonM Mastodon

              We are excited to share that we are beginning work on a new onboarding experiment for #Mastodon: Default Server Recommendations.

              Our intent for this experiment is to recommend the closest server geographically that is in the correct language during the sign-up flow. We will be running this experiment on our iOS and Android apps only to start.

              1/6

              Dusk To Don :raccoon:D This user is from outside of this forum
              Dusk To Don :raccoon:D This user is from outside of this forum
              Dusk To Don :raccoon:
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              #25

              @Mastodon

              Fabulous news. Any movement away from mastodon . social (risk of centralization, and plenty of other issues) is progress

              HT @FediTips

              Fedi.Tips (@FediTips@social.growyourown.services)

              Mastodon.social has no advantages over any other Mastodon server. It has no special status or privileges, it uses exactly the same software as other Mastodon servers. In fact I'd strongly advise people *NOT* to sign up on mastodon.social, here are the reasons why: https://fedi.tips/its-a-really-bad-idea-to-join-a-big-server TL:DR - It's far far too big, it's putting the entire decentralised nature of the Fediverse in danger. If you want help choosing a good reliable server, have a look at https://fedi.garden #FediTips

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              social.growyourown.services (social.growyourown.services)

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              • Petra van CronenburgN Petra van Cronenburg

                @Mastodon good idea!
                "Correct language": Does it mean the favourite language that people choose individually in their preferences (but for which they need an instance) or official language of a country/region? Asking for all the multi-language migrants, bilingual regions, and foreign-language prefering people.

                hannah aubryH This user is from outside of this forum
                hannah aubryH This user is from outside of this forum
                hannah aubry
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                #26

                @NatureMC

                Hey! We haven't built the logic for this yet, so thanks for mentioning situations like this so we can make sure to take them into account. Our idea is "correct language" = "the person's preferred language, as determined by their phone's preferences."

                @Mastodon

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                • MastodonM Mastodon

                  If you’re interested in participating in this experiment, please let us know by filling out this form.

                  (sorry it’s in Google docs)

                  https://forms.gle/7uRui5VnMPfEYAgq8

                  5/6

                  KackfreshP This user is from outside of this forum
                  KackfreshP This user is from outside of this forum
                  Kackfresh
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                  #27

                  @Mastodon

                  @mainz_sozial_digital könnte interessant sein?

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                  • hannah aubryH hannah aubry

                    @NatureMC

                    Hey! We haven't built the logic for this yet, so thanks for mentioning situations like this so we can make sure to take them into account. Our idea is "correct language" = "the person's preferred language, as determined by their phone's preferences."

                    @Mastodon

                    Petra van CronenburgN This user is from outside of this forum
                    Petra van CronenburgN This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #28

                    @haubles That sounds very good, I didn't know that it's technically possible. Great!

                    @Mastodon

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                    • MastodonM Mastodon

                      If you’re interested in participating in this experiment, please let us know by filling out this form.

                      (sorry it’s in Google docs)

                      https://forms.gle/7uRui5VnMPfEYAgq8

                      5/6

                      stux :stux_santa:S This user is from outside of this forum
                      stux :stux_santa:S This user is from outside of this forum
                      stux :stux_santa:
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                      #29

                      @Mastodon send!

                      kryptuxx :unverified:K Ben Zucker 🍰B 2 Replies Last reply
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                      • Sexybiggetje🐖M Sexybiggetje🐖

                        @Mastodon @SolSoCoG ?

                        SolSoCoGS This user is from outside of this forum
                        SolSoCoGS This user is from outside of this forum
                        SolSoCoG
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                        #30

                        @martijn @Mastodon already filled out when a fellow admin wrote about it 👌

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                        • stux :stux_santa:S stux :stux_santa:

                          @Mastodon send!

                          kryptuxx :unverified:K This user is from outside of this forum
                          kryptuxx :unverified:K This user is from outside of this forum
                          kryptuxx :unverified:
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                          #31

                          @stux @Mastodon send data?!

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                          • hannah aubryH This user is from outside of this forum
                            hannah aubryH This user is from outside of this forum
                            hannah aubry
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                            #32

                            @nitrml @colinstu

                            This experiment will be for general purpose servers only, but we'll be looking into running other onboarding experiments—including for special interest servers—soon.

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                            • MastodonM Mastodon

                              We are excited to share that we are beginning work on a new onboarding experiment for #Mastodon: Default Server Recommendations.

                              Our intent for this experiment is to recommend the closest server geographically that is in the correct language during the sign-up flow. We will be running this experiment on our iOS and Android apps only to start.

                              1/6

                              TariqR This user is from outside of this forum
                              TariqR This user is from outside of this forum
                              Tariq
                              wrote last edited by
                              #33

                              @Mastodon

                              you might also wish to ask the user about legal jurisdiction

                              the German and similar jurisdictions can be unreasonably and surprisingly problematic

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                              • MastodonM Mastodon

                                We are excited to share that we are beginning work on a new onboarding experiment for #Mastodon: Default Server Recommendations.

                                Our intent for this experiment is to recommend the closest server geographically that is in the correct language during the sign-up flow. We will be running this experiment on our iOS and Android apps only to start.

                                1/6

                                SunnyS This user is from outside of this forum
                                SunnyS This user is from outside of this forum
                                Sunny
                                wrote last edited by
                                #34

                                @Mastodon ideally combined with personal interests, right? (as long as there are enough servers to choose from) 😎🌈👩‍💻🌳

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                                • Aral BalkanA Aral Balkan

                                  @Mastodon This is a link to the server covenant:

                                  Link Preview Image
                                  Mastodon Server Covenant for joinmastodon.org

                                  favicon

                                  (joinmastodon.org)

                                  One important question – and one we’ve discussed together – is which definition of antisemitism are you going with? I’d appreciate it if you could state the decision you’ve reached on this publicly. Crucially, is it one that conflates opposition to Zionism, Israel, and the ongoing genocide of the Palestinian people with being bigoted against Jewish people or not? This is key in knowing whether only Zionist, pro-Israel, pro-genocide Mastodon servers will be featured in recommendations or not.

                                  KackfreshP This user is from outside of this forum
                                  KackfreshP This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Kackfresh
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #35

                                  @aral

                                  I feel like by asking this question you're — inadvertently — legitimizing zionism by implying that the conflation of antisemitism with antizionism is a credible definition of that word.

                                  Personally, I assume that antisemitism means antisemitism unless I have reason to believe otherwise.

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                                  • Octavia Con Amore :pink_moon_and_stars: Succubard's LibraryO Octavia Con Amore :pink_moon_and_stars: Succubard's Library

                                    @Mastodon do you mean entirely open sign-ups (i.e. prone to spam accounts) or accepting sign-ups that get manually approved by a human?

                                    hannah aubryH This user is from outside of this forum
                                    hannah aubryH This user is from outside of this forum
                                    hannah aubry
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                                    #36

                                    @OctaviaConAmore @Mastodon

                                    For this experiment, that is correct. We are looking to partner with servers that have open sign-ups. But we've heard the feedback that spam is going to be a big issue for many servers to participate, so our team is going to discuss what we can do about that next week.

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                                    • KackfreshP Kackfresh

                                      @aral

                                      I feel like by asking this question you're — inadvertently — legitimizing zionism by implying that the conflation of antisemitism with antizionism is a credible definition of that word.

                                      Personally, I assume that antisemitism means antisemitism unless I have reason to believe otherwise.

                                      Aral BalkanA This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Aral BalkanA This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Aral Balkan
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                                      #37

                                      @potatoes_fall It’s not a credible definition of the word but it is a *legally accepted* one in certain jurisdictions and it is essential that we know what is meant – in this specific context – by a term that is so widely and so willfully misunderstood so we understand what exactly the effects of this initiative will be and whether we should be in support of it or in opposition to it.

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                                      • SunnyS Sunny

                                        @Mastodon ideally combined with personal interests, right? (as long as there are enough servers to choose from) 😎🌈👩‍💻🌳

                                        hannah aubryH This user is from outside of this forum
                                        hannah aubryH This user is from outside of this forum
                                        hannah aubry
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                                        #38

                                        @sunnythesheep @Mastodon for this experiment we are looking to partner with general-purpose servers. But this is just one experiment, not the only experiment! We’ll be looking at how we can help with special-interest server discovery soon.

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                                        • MastodonM Mastodon

                                          The Default Server Recommendations experiment is a first step in reimagining how Mastodon onboarding & server discovery work.

                                          Our team’s intent is to work with the community to build new onboarding pathways that support the entire network.

                                          We can’t wait to get started 💜

                                          6/6

                                          SamS This user is from outside of this forum
                                          SamS This user is from outside of this forum
                                          Sam
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                                          #39

                                          @Mastodon It's amazing seeing these sorts of things play out across the Fediverse. Making sure we make a better internet that is centered around Privacy and staying decentralized for all.

                                          Keep up the good work and can't wait to see where we all are in several years to come.

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