The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video.

Tizian 「ティツィアーン」

@Daojoan I always hated video tutorials. Esp. because the format is inherently hard to adjust for updates.

AO Smith

@Daojoan
I can intellectually appreciate that some people find videos easiest to learn from. But I find them so inefficient to be essentially useless. And, of course, poor references because you can't just quickly go back and re-read a section.

Only once, years ago, I found instructions on a particular crochet technique that only came in a video that was useful because the creator had content links marked so you could jump to a section. Kudos to them for taking the time to add that feature!

crazyeddie

@miszeleq @earthshine @Daojoan I blame stackoverflow.

That guy set out with the stated goal of killing all forums and usenet and having all questions and such in one central database used by everyone.

It fucking worked. Those things all died and search results largely point at that place. AI is starting to swamp it out, but there you go...

I was actually slow to shift from usenet/forum to stackoverflow. Eventually I did until I just stopped participating in the "community".

Marc

@Daojoan yes! We had a discussion about this at my customer, and a user survey. The result has been 50/50 between video and written. We did a blended learning concept and we decided to choose the best for the users .

I agree , I like written as well more

Francisca Sinn

@Daojoan omg this. Every click to a link is painful.

J Miller

@Daojoan

FWIW, many educators also find this terrible from an instructor’s point of view. Of course, some enjoy it. But for many it shifts the focus from teaching, learning, and subject matter to performing on screen, which is not what we got into the field for in the first place.

Do not underestimate the extent the ongoing “pivot to video” reflects what can be monetized rather than actual preference or effectiveness.

Urwumpe

@Daojoan Like an university lecture without text books and lecture notes. Can't be that bad, right? Its not like development is complex and (often) hard....

#teaching #slop

Akul Bansal

@Daojoan Now there is a AI button on youtube videos which you can use for summarizing the video or asking other questions.

Suzanne Aldrich (she/her)

@Daojoan when I tell people that the video is basically garbage because I’m never gonna watch it, just peel off the transcript, they look at me in utter shock but man I cannot glean information from some rando droning on and on about everything except the thing, then two sentences on the thing, and now we’ve moved onto tangential shores.

Koen Hufkens, PhD

@Daojoan As if they are meant to be training some GenAI tool or something.

Orb 2069

@miszeleq @earthshine @Daojoan

We're going to find out in twenty years that the endless torrent of spam that drove people away from public forums to Discord and Facebook was funded/aided by Facebook and Discord.

It's fucking Jia Tan, all the way down. I know it in my bones.

Ianto Jones

@Daojoan the inability to process written language was the first slice at the throat, imo.

Orb 2069

@JMMaok @Daojoan

This. YouTube is the last place pretending to pay people actual money. The twenty-minute leadup is them shaking the cup to pad out the runtime long enough to get monetized.

Richard "RichiH" Hartmann

@Daojoan not to toot my own horn too much, but this has been annoying me for YEARS, and after pushing for way too long there's now interactive learning built into #Grafana.. as in, If you go to https://play.grafana.org/alerting , click the question mark in the upper right, and then select the interactive guide, it teaches you within the UI

狐ヴィクシー

@lil5@social.linux.pizza @Daojoan@mastodon.social Thanks for these links.

In my experience, mojeek can sometimes be good at showing personal sites but it can also show a lot of SEO spam that appears AI generated and there's a lot missing from its index. It's like rolling the dice whether it will have any useful results to a query and I ended up quitting it because it was so unreliable.

Kagi often has low quality results but what you're paying for is the the filtering tools which can help dial things in.

狐ヴィクシー

@miszeleq@mastodon.com.pl @Daojoan@mastodon.social @earthshine@masto.hackers.town Canva had the idea of archiving the Affinity suite forums and moving the community into Discord.

Which is why I'm sticking with v2 and not trusting v3.

Mayday! Mayday! Robot

@Daojoan
"Oh, I remember this video talked about that. Let me just ctrl-F the keyword to find the right part of the video..."

RejZoR

@Daojoan And to make matters worse, there is fuck ton of stupid Ai generated generic slop videos that don't actually fix anything, it's just a generic video to fix some very broad issue and you can find like 15 same videos from different "creators".

Macross マクロス

@Daojoan

it is the WORST, but more on that later! 🤮

Debacle

@Daojoan

I remember, that I had to find a certain function on a device I own.

Explaining where to find it, takes two simple sentences in English, maybe 200 bytes.

The only thing, I found on the net: A multi-minute #video. Megabytes wasted. Let's burn the planet.

Next level: #AI generated #tutorial videos.

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