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The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video.

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  • JA WestenbergD JA Westenberg

    The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

    Adrian WA This user is from outside of this forum
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    Adrian W
    wrote last edited by
    #87

    @Daojoan Oh hell that is so true! It drives me bloody insane!

    Ten minutes of video drivel that could be condensed down to a couple of pages of text and a few diagrams - all of which might take just a few minutes to read, understand and act upon.

    I know about learning styles, etc. and that video instruction works better for some people, but give the rest of us the option FFS!!

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    • Professor_StevensP Professor_Stevens

      @Daojoan

      Food bloggers used to write things down. That is, they used to teach you how to cook. Nowadays, they still write, but it's like every article starts with, "I was born on a farm in Nebraska..."

      crazyeddieC This user is from outside of this forum
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      crazyeddie
      wrote last edited by
      #88

      @Professor_Stevens @Daojoan At least it's they're not from Nantucket.

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      • JA WestenbergD JA Westenberg

        The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

        Arianna MascioliniH This user is from outside of this forum
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        Arianna Masciolini
        wrote last edited by
        #89

        @Daojoan to be fair, video *tutorials* have worked better than written *tutorials* for me in many occasions. What I really struggle with right now is finding something that *isn't* a tutorial when all I need is concise, high-quality, up-to-date, structured and easily searchable reference material. Especially when it comes to web development.

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        • JA WestenbergD JA Westenberg

          The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

          hitausH This user is from outside of this forum
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          hitaus
          wrote last edited by
          #90

          @Daojoan Fully agree. Unfortunately most (AI gen'd?) websites also fail to get to the point efficiently, and ramble on around the subject for ages. Hence I prefer a short'n'succinct Codeberg/Github page or minimal blog post that dives straight into the issue and be done with it.

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          • crazyeddieC crazyeddie

            @Professor_Stevens @Daojoan At least it's they're not from Nantucket.

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            Professor_Stevens
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            #91

            @crazyeddie @Daojoan

            But that would be poetic.

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            • JA WestenbergD JA Westenberg

              The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

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              BlogRolly
              wrote last edited by
              #92

              @Daojoan depending on what you want to learn I can suggest the Odin project if it’s software development you want to learn they have an exhaustive guide

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              • JA WestenbergD JA Westenberg

                The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

                Hamish BuchananH This user is from outside of this forum
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                Hamish Buchanan
                wrote last edited by
                #93

                It is so annoying. Reading is so much faster than video and comprehension from reading is much better, too.

                If you can write a script for a video, you can at least post it with your video.

                @Daojoan

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                • JA WestenbergD JA Westenberg

                  The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

                  Jetse de VriesF This user is from outside of this forum
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                  Jetse de Vries
                  wrote last edited by
                  #94

                  @Daojoan Yes, I greatly prefer a concise, written 'how to' above the endless blathering on a video.

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                  • JA WestenbergD JA Westenberg

                    The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

                    RealGene ☣️R This user is from outside of this forum
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                    RealGene ☣️
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                    #95

                    @Daojoan
                    Yesterday, my Brother laser printer, which is generally a nice, invisible piece of machinery, was apparently soliciting strange computers on the Internet, because there were literally thousands of triggers of a firewall rule I set up forbidding access to the printer from outside, primarily to prevent firmware upgrades.

                    So I attempted to log in to the printer's web console, which requires an SSL connection, but it wouldn't respond to that.

                    When I searched for why I couldn't log in, the results were either from Brother, all of which told me to tell the browser to accept the cert (which it couldn't, because the printer wouldn't accept a TLS connection at all), or YouTube videos saying/showing EXACTLY THE SAME THING.

                    So I factory reset it, and was then able to log in (after telling the browser to accept the self-signed cert).

                    And the outside attacks stopped.

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                    • JA WestenbergD JA Westenberg

                      The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

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                      Neil Moffatt
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                      #96

                      @Daojoan Writing good guides is so much harder. Modern life gravitates towards the easy path.

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                      • miszeleqM miszeleq

                        @earthshine @Daojoan

                        I blame Discord on the downfall of the modern web. You used to be able to find answers to your problems easily on moderated forums, where people used to follow the rules of netiquette. Nowadays you need to join private server and scroll through endless spam.

                        IDK who had the idea of moving the support/community into de facto chatroom that is Discord, but there is a special place in hell for them.

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                        Suran
                        wrote last edited by
                        #97

                        @miszeleq @earthshine @Daojoan

                        Yes.
                        #Discord is where information goes to die.

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                        • JA WestenbergD JA Westenberg

                          The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

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                          Tizian 「ティツィアーン」
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                          #98

                          @Daojoan I always hated video tutorials. Esp. because the format is inherently hard to adjust for updates.

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                          • JA WestenbergD JA Westenberg

                            The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

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                            AO Smith
                            wrote last edited by
                            #99

                            @Daojoan
                            I can intellectually appreciate that some people find videos easiest to learn from. But I find them so inefficient to be essentially useless. And, of course, poor references because you can't just quickly go back and re-read a section.

                            Only once, years ago, I found instructions on a particular crochet technique that only came in a video that was useful because the creator had content links marked so you could jump to a section. Kudos to them for taking the time to add that feature!

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                            • miszeleqM miszeleq

                              @earthshine @Daojoan

                              I blame Discord on the downfall of the modern web. You used to be able to find answers to your problems easily on moderated forums, where people used to follow the rules of netiquette. Nowadays you need to join private server and scroll through endless spam.

                              IDK who had the idea of moving the support/community into de facto chatroom that is Discord, but there is a special place in hell for them.

                              crazyeddieC This user is from outside of this forum
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                              crazyeddie
                              wrote last edited by
                              #100

                              @miszeleq @earthshine @Daojoan I blame stackoverflow.

                              That guy set out with the stated goal of killing all forums and usenet and having all questions and such in one central database used by everyone.

                              It fucking worked. Those things all died and search results largely point at that place. AI is starting to swamp it out, but there you go...

                              I was actually slow to shift from usenet/forum to stackoverflow. Eventually I did until I just stopped participating in the "community".

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                              • JA WestenbergD JA Westenberg

                                The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

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                                Marc
                                wrote last edited by
                                #101

                                @Daojoan yes! We had a discussion about this at my customer, and a user survey. The result has been 50/50 between video and written. We did a blended learning concept and we decided to choose the best for the users .

                                I agree , I like written as well more

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                                • JA WestenbergD JA Westenberg

                                  The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

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                                  Francisca Sinn
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                                  #102

                                  @Daojoan omg this. Every click to a link is painful.

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                                  • JA WestenbergD JA Westenberg

                                    The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

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                                    J Miller
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                                    #103

                                    @Daojoan

                                    FWIW, many educators also find this terrible from an instructor’s point of view. Of course, some enjoy it. But for many it shifts the focus from teaching, learning, and subject matter to performing on screen, which is not what we got into the field for in the first place.

                                    Do not underestimate the extent the ongoing “pivot to video” reflects what can be monetized rather than actual preference or effectiveness.

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                                    • JA WestenbergD JA Westenberg

                                      The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

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                                      Urwumpe
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                                      #104

                                      @Daojoan Like an university lecture without text books and lecture notes. Can't be that bad, right? Its not like development is complex and (often) hard....

                                      #teaching #slop

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                                      • JA WestenbergD JA Westenberg

                                        The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

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                                        Akul Bansal
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #105

                                        @Daojoan Now there is a AI button on youtube videos which you can use for summarizing the video or asking other questions.

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                                        • JA WestenbergD JA Westenberg

                                          The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

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                                          Suzanne Aldrich (she/her)
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #106

                                          @Daojoan when I tell people that the video is basically garbage because I’m never gonna watch it, just peel off the transcript, they look at me in utter shock but man I cannot glean information from some rando droning on and on about everything except the thing, then two sentences on the thing, and now we’ve moved onto tangential shores.

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