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  • CubeOfCheeseC CubeOfCheese

    @noheger what software are you using for the click visualization?

    Norbert HegerN This user is from outside of this forum
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    @cubeofcheese Out-of-the-box macOS screen recording. Can be enabled in the Options menu.

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    • Norbert HegerN Norbert Heger

      Struggling to resize windows on macOS Tahoe? Here’s why.

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      RyanR This user is from outside of this forum
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      @noheger @aaronbushnell Someone needs to sit the Apple VPs down with their own products and force them to use them for a week. They clearly don’t use them right now.

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      • Norbert HegerN Norbert Heger

        Struggling to resize windows on macOS Tahoe? Here’s why.

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        George Liquor, AmericanL This user is from outside of this forum
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        @noheger This little vid of yours is so perfect, thanks for the belly laugh !

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        • George Liquor, AmericanL George Liquor, American

          @noheger This little vid of yours is so perfect, thanks for the belly laugh !

          Norbert HegerN This user is from outside of this forum
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          @liquor_american Thank you! Glad you like it! 🙂

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          • Norbert HegerN Norbert Heger

            Struggling to resize windows on macOS Tahoe? Here’s why.

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            DustyD This user is from outside of this forum
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            @noheger #apple, you're UX is loathsome!

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            • Resolviendo la incógnita 🌐R Resolviendo la incógnita 🌐

              @noheger Like Space Invaders, you shouldn't aim where your target is, but where it would be.

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              @RLIBlog @noheger yep, a testiment to simplicity and intuitiveness, right there! 🙄

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              • Norbert HegerN Norbert Heger

                Struggling to resize windows on macOS Tahoe? Here’s why.

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                Cris :verified_coffee:C This user is from outside of this forum
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                @noheger @siracusa Looks like they left the drag target where the corner of the window *should* be. Amazing

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                • Norbert HegerN Norbert Heger

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                  DustyD This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @noheger may this travesty cause Jobs rotate in his grave like a rotting rotisserie chicken

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                  • Norbert HegerN Norbert Heger

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                    dch82D This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @noheger Huh... So I guess iPadOS has passed macOS in this regard...

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                    • Norbert HegerN Norbert Heger

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                      Eggs now in different baskets.T This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @noheger The XFCE desktop has a really nice take on resizing windows.

                      Alt+Right-mouse-click somewhere in quite a large area near any corner of a window does the same as trying to find the much smaller window resize area in any corner.

                      I find this very useful as my patience and hand-eye coordination deteriorate (generally and by varying degrees on given days) as I get older.

                      Maybe other desktops have similar systems.

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                      • Norbert HegerN Norbert Heger

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                        @noheger @siracusa

                        Again a ‘yes it’s here’ alert that seems geared towards visionOS, trying to train devs AND users to hesitate and wait for an affirmation.

                        Which we all hate compared to simple everyday fast interaction

                        It’s because our eyes don’t grab everything they look at that everything now has to ask, ‘Are you sure?’

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                        • Norbert HegerN Norbert Heger

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                          @noheger Wow, that... would drive me crazy...

                          I get why it does it of course. Internally it's still a rectangle even if it's presented externally as rounded edges. But how are people without long time computing experience going to know that the actual window extends further than where you actually see?

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                          • Eggs now in different baskets.T Eggs now in different baskets.

                            @noheger The XFCE desktop has a really nice take on resizing windows.

                            Alt+Right-mouse-click somewhere in quite a large area near any corner of a window does the same as trying to find the much smaller window resize area in any corner.

                            I find this very useful as my patience and hand-eye coordination deteriorate (generally and by varying degrees on given days) as I get older.

                            Maybe other desktops have similar systems.

                            Henrik PauliP This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @the_wub @noheger I think that's basically an X11 custom, Alt+LMB to move, Alt+RMB to resize. Should be available on most "normal" desktop environments 🙂

                            Windows, for all its flaws, had some thick window borders for a while (Win 8? 8.1?) then later visually thinner but they were still easy to hit, like there was a part that didn't look like a border but still counted towards resizing. I found them really pleasant at the time, didn't have to pixel hunt!

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                            • Norbert HegerN Norbert Heger

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                              @noheger It has made me double down my use of a window manager (Better Snap Tool) so I don’t have to deal with it

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                              • Norbert HegerN Norbert Heger

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                                wow. fuck whomever thought this was a good idea

                                @noheger

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                                • Norbert HegerN Norbert Heger

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                                  @noheger That video in the middle is hilarious.

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                                  • Norbert HegerN Norbert Heger

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                                    @noheger So they just increased the radius but kept the resize point 😅

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                                      @noheger @siracusa How is that irritating? Transparent handles is exactly what the whole design revolves around.

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                                      • Rihards OlupsR Rihards Olups

                                        @noheger That was worse than I expected.
                                        Apple could dramatically improve UX by migrating to unmodified KDE. And supporting KDE devs going forward.

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                                        @richlv

                                        KDE by default has the same problem. You need to change the settings to add real window borders.

                                        And even that is not ideal. Ideal would be Windows 3 or IRIX, where windows are rectangular, thickly bordered, and the resize regions are clearly delineated.

                                        @noheger

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                                        • Rihards OlupsR Rihards Olups

                                          @noheger That was worse than I expected.
                                          Apple could dramatically improve UX by migrating to unmodified KDE. And supporting KDE devs going forward.

                                          Vera LaveramiV This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @richlv @noheger Or they could just revert to the NeXTSTEP UI. That had neat little resize handles.

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