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  • argv minus oneA argv minus one

    @richlv

    KDE by default has the same problem. You need to change the settings to add real window borders.

    And even that is not ideal. Ideal would be Windows 3 or IRIX, where windows are rectangular, thickly bordered, and the resize regions are clearly delineated.

    @noheger

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    @argv_minus_one @noheger Here's KDE where I have changed nothing on window corners, it seems to work perfectly.

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    • Rihards OlupsR Rihards Olups

      @argv_minus_one @noheger Here's KDE where I have changed nothing on window corners, it seems to work perfectly.

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      @richlv

      Did you change the border width? As far as I know, there's no border by default.

      @noheger

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      • Norbert HegerN Norbert Heger

        Struggling to resize windows on macOS Tahoe? Here’s why.

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        @noheger I thought good design and a nice user interface were their only selling point. Great job fucking that up! The icons are also hilarious https://tonsky.me/blog/tahoe-icons/

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        • Norbert HegerN Norbert Heger

          Struggling to resize windows on macOS Tahoe? Here’s why.

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          @noheger meanwhile XFCE since decades : CLICK ANYWHERE HOLDING ALT AND IT RESIZES THE WAY YOU WANT

          You don't have to target anything. It just work very well and is very comfortable to use.

          Who the hell pays for fisher price apple again ?

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          • Norbert HegerN Norbert Heger

            Struggling to resize windows on macOS Tahoe? Here’s why.

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            @noheger this is why I refuse to use a window manager that does not support resize using alt+mouse2

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            • Eggs now in different baskets.T Eggs now in different baskets.

              @noheger The XFCE desktop has a really nice take on resizing windows.

              Alt+Right-mouse-click somewhere in quite a large area near any corner of a window does the same as trying to find the much smaller window resize area in any corner.

              I find this very useful as my patience and hand-eye coordination deteriorate (generally and by varying degrees on given days) as I get older.

              Maybe other desktops have similar systems.

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              @the_wub @noheger on macos we use BetterTouchTool, which has options for this.

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              • argv minus oneA argv minus one

                @richlv

                Did you change the border width? As far as I know, there's no border by default.

                @noheger

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                @argv_minus_one @noheger
                Ah, somewhat weird. Firefox has that thick border, but other apps do not. Maybe something to do with GTK vs QT, not sure.

                While the border is pretty much not there, it's still very easy to resize windows.

                With the narrow border it's more obvious that indeed dragging area inside the window itself is smaller than outside it. Maybe to avoid overlapping with controls inside those windows?

                Otherwise that scrollbar might be weirdly inaccessible.

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                • Norbert HegerN Norbert Heger

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                  @noheger You move your cursor pretty fast to show it not working, but you slow down quite a bit to make your point. Maybe slow down in the first place.

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                    @noheger
                    The whole #LiquidGlass fiasco has made #MacOS noticeably worse. It wastes a LOT of screen space.

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                    • groxxG groxx

                      @phl @the_wub @noheger 7's borders were unreservedly thicc

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                      @groxx @phl @the_wub @noheger wow I didn't remember Windows 7 looking that good.
                      Maybe Apple should've tried improving this design instead of whatever they've done instead.

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                      • Norbert HegerN Norbert Heger

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                        @noheger this is dumb. Good post!

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                          @noheger I've just realised that #Ubuntu does that too. I never noticed because I never use the corner to resize; I do Super + right click.

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                            @noheger
                            Clearly the superior UI, infallible in every way...

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                              @noheger Steve Jobs has been rolling in his grave ever faster and faster over the years. These days he must be fast as a drill.

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                              • Marc Robinson :mastodon:M Marc Robinson :mastodon:

                                @noheger You move your cursor pretty fast to show it not working, but you slow down quite a bit to make your point. Maybe slow down in the first place.

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                                  @noheger Well, I'm not going to say Tahoe has no issues, but I can't reproduce the error you're seeing.

                                  In the old days I would say try restarting without extensions to see if the problem persists. These days I think it's create a new user account.

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                                    @noheger Please tell me this is configurable and that it's not what they ship as a default setting...

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                                      @noheger Great piece. To the point. Not too technical. (For us common folk.) Useful. Thank you.

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                                        James ScariatiJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @noheger Holy crap! This kept happening to me and I thought it was my mouse flaking out or something. So they changed the visual corner radius without adjusting the click area to match…great. Really starting to regret updating to Tahoe.

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                                        • Farshid Hakimy / فرشیدF Farshid Hakimy / فرشید

                                          @groxx @phl @the_wub @noheger wow I didn't remember Windows 7 looking that good.
                                          Maybe Apple should've tried improving this design instead of whatever they've done instead.

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                                          @farshidhakimy @phl @the_wub @noheger 7 was a bit over the top for the time, and it clashed rather awkwardly with old components... but yeah, it worked pretty well. I turned down the in-app transparency because it was sometimes too low contrast (but NOTHING like how bad Tahoe gets) but that's about it, it communicated what it needed to just fine and few minded.

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