@noheger This little vid of yours is so perfect, thanks for the belly laugh !

@liquor_american Thank you! Glad you like it!

@noheger #apple, you're UX is loathsome!

@RLIBlog @noheger yep, a testiment to simplicity and intuitiveness, right there!

@noheger @siracusa Looks like they left the drag target where the corner of the window *should* be. Amazing

@noheger may this travesty cause Jobs rotate in his grave like a rotting rotisserie chicken

@noheger Huh... So I guess iPadOS has passed macOS in this regard...

@noheger The XFCE desktop has a really nice take on resizing windows.

Alt+Right-mouse-click somewhere in quite a large area near any corner of a window does the same as trying to find the much smaller window resize area in any corner.

I find this very useful as my patience and hand-eye coordination deteriorate (generally and by varying degrees on given days) as I get older.

Maybe other desktops have similar systems.

@noheger @siracusa

Again a ‘yes it’s here’ alert that seems geared towards visionOS, trying to train devs AND users to hesitate and wait for an affirmation.

Which we all hate compared to simple everyday fast interaction

It’s because our eyes don’t grab everything they look at that everything now has to ask, ‘Are you sure?’

@noheger Wow, that... would drive me crazy...

I get why it does it of course. Internally it's still a rectangle even if it's presented externally as rounded edges. But how are people without long time computing experience going to know that the actual window extends further than where you actually see?

@the_wub @noheger I think that's basically an X11 custom, Alt+LMB to move, Alt+RMB to resize. Should be available on most "normal" desktop environments

Windows, for all its flaws, had some thick window borders for a while (Win 8? 8.1?) then later visually thinner but they were still easy to hit, like there was a part that didn't look like a border but still counted towards resizing. I found them really pleasant at the time, didn't have to pixel hunt!

@noheger It has made me double down my use of a window manager (Better Snap Tool) so I don’t have to deal with it

wow. fuck whomever thought this was a good idea

@noheger

@noheger That video in the middle is hilarious.

@noheger So they just increased the radius but kept the resize point

@noheger @siracusa How is that irritating? Transparent handles is exactly what the whole design revolves around.

@richlv

KDE by default has the same problem. You need to change the settings to add real window borders.

And even that is not ideal. Ideal would be Windows 3 or IRIX, where windows are rectangular, thickly bordered, and the resize regions are clearly delineated.

@noheger

@richlv @noheger Or they could just revert to the NeXTSTEP UI. That had neat little resize handles.

@fazalmajid @noheger Thinking about this as well, after ~40 years of using Apple products. Although in my case admittedly only partly because of how rubbish much of Tahoe is, more because of the general enshittification of Apple, the company, the products, and the politics.

@phl @the_wub @noheger 7's borders were unreservedly thicc