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  • Deer Witch NyxM Deer Witch Nyx

    @sarae @awawawa yes! I sometimes read as +support +love +you’re seen

    in disability communities I feel especially it never vibes “they LIKE that I’m having a brutal week,” it’s “they saw I’m having a brutal week & sent me a boop to know I’m not alone”

    I think it’s v weird when I see discourse and ppl are adamant it only means “I like this”. Have your friends not been suffering & do you not boop support?

    Lisa 🦔M This user is from outside of this forum
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    @moss yeah, I definitely use it as a boop of friendly acknowledgement too. @sarae @awawawa

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    • Greg JohnstonG Greg Johnston

      @moss @sarae @awawawa Agree. If someone posts that they’re having a hard time, often I might not fully understand why or how and worry about commenting delicately. So I favorite the post to be supportive, to acknowledge their discomfort .

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      @GPJohnston @moss @awawawa yep exactly this

      "hang in there buddy times are tough but I am on Team You and hoping for the best"

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      • SaraS Sara

        seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

        folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

        it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

        kimaprK This user is from outside of this forum
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        Sara

        it’s true that it doesn’t particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we’re all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

        the funny thing about this: on the Pleroma/Misskey side of the network, favorites distribute posts across servers the same way boosts or replies do, they just don’t push the posts directly to followers’ Home Timelines — so they do increase distribution, but in a less obvious way (it’s more obvious on smaller servers like mine where any interaction could facilitate federation that would otherwise would not happen).

        it doesn’t really work that exact way on Mastodon though from what i’ve seen, as Mastodon doesn’t seem to federate favorites at all except to the post author.

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        • SaraS Sara

          @GPJohnston it doesn't feed an algo so that's a problem, I guess? idk it's a mindset that doesn't fit well with how I use the system

          Lee from ColoradoC This user is from outside of this forum
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          @sarae @GPJohnston It's also policing behavior, telling other people how they should be behaving. I don't like it. Not one bit ...

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          • SaraS Sara

            seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

            folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

            it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

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            @sarae l have always thought it was like giving a friendly wave to someone on the street to let them know I have seen them even if I am not going to stop to chat right now.

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            • SaraS Sara

              seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

              folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

              it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

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              @sarae

              I'm a big fan of making my own rules. That's why I graduated childhood.

              🤡

              Starring = I like! (1/1 stars!)
              Boosting = I want everyone to see this.

              Do what you mean. Don't let the bastards grind you down.

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              • schratzeS schratze

                @sarae literally who says this

                I've never seen anyone make this recommendation

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                @schratze I'm glad to hear this hasn't been part of your experience, since I think it's a fairly unhealthy way to approach online interactions

                not as unhealthy as rocking up in a total stranger's replies and attacking their credibility

                but pretty unhealthy, nonetheless!

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                • SaraS Sara

                  @schratze I'm glad to hear this hasn't been part of your experience, since I think it's a fairly unhealthy way to approach online interactions

                  not as unhealthy as rocking up in a total stranger's replies and attacking their credibility

                  but pretty unhealthy, nonetheless!

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                  @sarae I did not intend to doubt your credibility. I apologize for that.

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                  • Lee from ColoradoC Lee from Colorado

                    @sarae @GPJohnston It's also policing behavior, telling other people how they should be behaving. I don't like it. Not one bit ...

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                    @colo_lee @GPJohnston I think people are often coming from a place of believing that others genuinely don't understand how things work, because they recently didn't understand themself

                    but in this case I'm like, you are correct that the tool doesn't do the thing a similarly-named tool did elsewhere

                    that is because you are now in a space designed by people who found that tool's behavior elsewhere fairly upsetting

                    (I notice the same thing about QGIS vs Esri products, in my work life)

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                    • SaraS Sara

                      seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

                      folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

                      it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

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                      @sarae

                      I'll usually favourite stuff to encourage people for things I don't want to actually post on my profile.

                      You created your first 3D chair in Blender? Fav. You did some pixel art I don't like but you're proud of your progress? Fav. You posted some political comment under a post with tons of replies? Fav.

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                      • schratzeS schratze

                        @sarae I did not intend to doubt your credibility. I apologize for that.

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                        @schratze thank you

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                        • SaraS Sara

                          @colo_lee @GPJohnston I think people are often coming from a place of believing that others genuinely don't understand how things work, because they recently didn't understand themself

                          but in this case I'm like, you are correct that the tool doesn't do the thing a similarly-named tool did elsewhere

                          that is because you are now in a space designed by people who found that tool's behavior elsewhere fairly upsetting

                          (I notice the same thing about QGIS vs Esri products, in my work life)

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                          @sarae @GPJohnston that is a generous read of the situation in your first sentence. I'll try to follow your example and share the assumption of good will ...

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                          • BeldarakB Beldarak

                            @sarae

                            I'll usually favourite stuff to encourage people for things I don't want to actually post on my profile.

                            You created your first 3D chair in Blender? Fav. You did some pixel art I don't like but you're proud of your progress? Fav. You posted some political comment under a post with tons of replies? Fav.

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                            @Beldarak yeah, while I certainly recirculate some political stuff, on that esp I try to pace myself, because it can turn into such a barrage and I don't want to be like "here's a list of 47 horrible things I saw today" without chucking in some pictures of the cats or vegetables or a sunrise or whatever

                            it's easy to get pulled into that and I definitely do sometimes

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                            • Lisa 🦔M Lisa 🦔

                              @moss yeah, I definitely use it as a boop of friendly acknowledgement too. @sarae @awawawa

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                              @mycrowgirl @moss @sarae @awawawa I use it the same. Sometimes I don't have the spoons to reply to someone having a difficult time. I want them to know they aren't alone.

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                              • Lee from ColoradoC Lee from Colorado

                                @sarae @GPJohnston that is a generous read of the situation in your first sentence. I'll try to follow your example and share the assumption of good will ...

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                                @colo_lee @GPJohnston lol I get up every day and try to remind myself about that

                                and sometimes it really is that way but daaaamn also people are people an upsetting amount of the time 😆

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                                • SaraS Sara

                                  seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

                                  folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

                                  it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

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                                  @sarae 👍💯👍

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                                  • kimaprK kimapr

                                    Sara

                                    it’s true that it doesn’t particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we’re all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

                                    the funny thing about this: on the Pleroma/Misskey side of the network, favorites distribute posts across servers the same way boosts or replies do, they just don’t push the posts directly to followers’ Home Timelines — so they do increase distribution, but in a less obvious way (it’s more obvious on smaller servers like mine where any interaction could facilitate federation that would otherwise would not happen).

                                    it doesn’t really work that exact way on Mastodon though from what i’ve seen, as Mastodon doesn’t seem to federate favorites at all except to the post author.

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                                    @kimapr oh interesting!

                                    and I think that for those of us who read "trending" on a Mastodon server (which I do sometimes if I've been afk all day and want to catch up on the "big ideas") favorites do influence visibility, but yeah, it's in a diffuse rather than a direct way

                                    (and see I boosted this because it's new-to-me information, lol)

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                                    • SaraS Sara

                                      @Beldarak yeah, while I certainly recirculate some political stuff, on that esp I try to pace myself, because it can turn into such a barrage and I don't want to be like "here's a list of 47 horrible things I saw today" without chucking in some pictures of the cats or vegetables or a sunrise or whatever

                                      it's easy to get pulled into that and I definitely do sometimes

                                      BeldarakB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @sarae

                                      Yeah, the no algorithm thing means you can be super annoying to your followers if you boost too much in one shot, you're right 🙂

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                                      • SaraS Sara

                                        seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

                                        folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

                                        it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

                                        Grimoire BizarreG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @sarae I see it as a way to tell the OP that I liked or otherwise appreciated the post, especially when I don't have a substantial reply to share!

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                                        • SaraS Sara

                                          seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

                                          folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

                                          it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

                                          Max LeibmanM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @sarae I agree on almost every point except one: it *does* affect distribution, albeit in a small way, because faves are counted for the trending posts lists.

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