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Did you really think it would be that easy

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  • koboldcoterie@pawb.socialK koboldcoterie@pawb.social

    It seems like any sufficiently rich person, like a monarch, could essentially have someone on staff - maybe multiple people - whose entire job is to periodically cast True Resurrection, naming the rich individual. If they arenโ€™t dead, the spell fails; if they are, they come back to life, and can name their assassin.

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    archpawn@lemmy.world
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    Or they could just have some Clones.

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    • mousekeyboard@ttrpg.networkM mousekeyboard@ttrpg.network

      The king is a puppet of a dictatorial deity. The solution is to overthrow god.

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      mycatiskai@lemmy.ca
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      The king is a puppet of a dictatorial clergy, the solution is to burn the church down with the clergy and monarchy inside.

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        shalafi@lemmy.world
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        Bravo on that headline OP! ๐Ÿ˜‰

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          Bravo on that headline OP! ๐Ÿ˜‰

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          stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          Why what did I do? I phoned it the fuck in

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            Why what did I do? I phoned it the fuck in

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            _stranger_@lemmy.world
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            I think itโ€™s lovely

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              Why what did I do? I phoned it the fuck in

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              shalafi@lemmy.world
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              • koboldcoterie@pawb.socialK koboldcoterie@pawb.social

                It seems like any sufficiently rich person, like a monarch, could essentially have someone on staff - maybe multiple people - whose entire job is to periodically cast True Resurrection, naming the rich individual. If they arenโ€™t dead, the spell fails; if they are, they come back to life, and can name their assassin.

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                bob_lemon@feddit.org
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                Assuming D&D 5e rules, this is easily countered by casting Gentle Repose on the corpse every 10 days, or any other method of preventing natural decay.

                True Resurrection can only create a new body if the original no longer exists.

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                • B bob_lemon@feddit.org

                  Assuming D&D 5e rules, this is easily countered by casting Gentle Repose on the corpse every 10 days, or any other method of preventing natural decay.

                  True Resurrection can only create a new body if the original no longer exists.

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                  koboldcoterie@pawb.social
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                  I guess this comes down to DM fiat as for what constitutes โ€œtouchingโ€ the creature. For example, what if the person casting the spell had a hair sample, or a severed finger or some other item from the monarchโ€™s body, which they were also taking any of those steps to prevent decay of?

                  The 3rd Edition version of the spell is even more ambiguous. RAW, it doesnโ€™t prevent you from โ€œunambiguously identifyingโ€ the creature through a means other than touching the body even if the body still exists.

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                    NANOBLESSINGS, SON!

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                    • A archpawn@lemmy.world

                      Nobody would rule by birthright in a D&D world. Any leader of a country would have access to Clone, and would have no need for inheritance.

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                      I Cast Fist
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                      Funny thing, there was a 2e setting called Birthright, which pretty much made the game about developing land as a lord, rather than dungeon delving

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                      • koboldcoterie@pawb.socialK koboldcoterie@pawb.social

                        I guess this comes down to DM fiat as for what constitutes โ€œtouchingโ€ the creature. For example, what if the person casting the spell had a hair sample, or a severed finger or some other item from the monarchโ€™s body, which they were also taking any of those steps to prevent decay of?

                        The 3rd Edition version of the spell is even more ambiguous. RAW, it doesnโ€™t prevent you from โ€œunambiguously identifyingโ€ the creature through a means other than touching the body even if the body still exists.

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                        For example, what if the person casting the spell had a hair sample, or a severed finger or some other item from the monarchโ€™s body,

                        RAW and RAI that wouldnโ€™t work, otherwise you could cast Inflict Wounds on someone by merely having a strand of hair from them. The RAW answer would be to have someone cast Contingency + Gentle Repose, though at that point you may as well add in a teleport or something instead

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                        • I Cast FistI I Cast Fist

                          Funny thing, there was a 2e setting called Birthright, which pretty much made the game about developing land as a lord, rather than dungeon delving

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                          verseandvermin@lemmy.world
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                          Oh. I just learned about this. I have no involvement in this channel but this video was neat. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsGk9M-4dq4

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                          • V verseandvermin@lemmy.world

                            Oh. I just learned about this. I have no involvement in this channel but this video was neat. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsGk9M-4dq4

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                            archpawn@lemmy.world
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                            I thought this was going to be spam. I recommend saying what youโ€™re posting a link to. Or at least something that makes it clear youโ€™re replying to a specific comment instead of posting that at random.

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                              I tried that. The paladin Divine Smiteโ€™d me ๐Ÿ˜ž

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                              dragontypewyvern@midwest.social
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                              Secular Smite them back, easy.

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                              • B bob_lemon@feddit.org

                                Assuming D&D 5e rules, this is easily countered by casting Gentle Repose on the corpse every 10 days, or any other method of preventing natural decay.

                                True Resurrection can only create a new body if the original no longer exists.

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                                dragontypewyvern@midwest.social
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                                Or stuff it in a bag of holding!

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                                  For example, what if the person casting the spell had a hair sample, or a severed finger or some other item from the monarchโ€™s body,

                                  RAW and RAI that wouldnโ€™t work, otherwise you could cast Inflict Wounds on someone by merely having a strand of hair from them. The RAW answer would be to have someone cast Contingency + Gentle Repose, though at that point you may as well add in a teleport or something instead

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                                  dragontypewyvern@midwest.social
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                                  There definitely should be some spells that work like that tbh, itโ€™s a classical trope of curse magic.

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                                  • koboldcoterie@pawb.socialK koboldcoterie@pawb.social

                                    I guess this comes down to DM fiat as for what constitutes โ€œtouchingโ€ the creature. For example, what if the person casting the spell had a hair sample, or a severed finger or some other item from the monarchโ€™s body, which they were also taking any of those steps to prevent decay of?

                                    The 3rd Edition version of the spell is even more ambiguous. RAW, it doesnโ€™t prevent you from โ€œunambiguously identifyingโ€ the creature through a means other than touching the body even if the body still exists.

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                                    its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                                    Once those items are removed from the body they become a separate object. Maybe useful in divination, but not touching the body. If this were true the party could just cut off some hair hand it to the cleric and all their touch spells would be infinite range.

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                                      There definitely should be some spells that work like that tbh, itโ€™s a classical trope of curse magic.

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                                      That wouldnโ€™t be a feature of the spell but of the caster

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                                      • mousekeyboard@ttrpg.networkM mousekeyboard@ttrpg.network

                                        The king is a puppet of a dictatorial deity. The solution is to overthrow god.

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                                        astutemural@midwest.social
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                                        Reach heaven through violence

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                                          astutemural@midwest.social
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                                          This really gets into the foundational expectations of the setting.

                                          In a reality structured to allow for Heroes, a leader must be one, or else be replaced by the next one to stroll through.

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