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6 in 10 Canadians say they can never trust Americans the same way again

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  • M mystikincarnate@lemmy.ca

    Strange way to bring up that particular atrocity.

    Doesn’t seem to have any bearing on the subject matter of the OP, or the commenter you’re replying to.

    Weird.

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    tonytonychopper@mander.xyz
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    The parent comment alludes to “redface”

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    • merc@sh.itjust.worksM merc@sh.itjust.works

      Especially because they were doing it to protect their smuggling profits, not out of some great and noble cause.

      Ungrateful sods too, because a lot of the war debt that the tariffs were meant to pay off were the result of beating the French on the American continent so that it could be settled by English colonists. Ever wonder why so many places in the US have French names? Detroit, Louisville, St. Louis, Lafayette, Reno (a.k.a. Renault), Arkansas, Illinois…

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      drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world
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      #110

      Could have just not had the war…

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      • F freshparsnip@lemmy.ca

        After this nightmare is over, the Untied States need a complete overhaul

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        octopusnemeses@lemmy.world
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        #111

        It’s not ending any time soon. The US supreme court will remain a theocratic conservative majority for most of our lives. Regardless of how old you are. You will be quite old by the time that changes.

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          m0darn@lemmy.ca
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          #112

          From Mary Poppins:

          Though we adore them individually, we agree that as a group they’re rather stupid.

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          • B burntwits@sh.itjust.works

            How does an American pronounce it?

            A vast majority of the Canadians I know pronounce it the same way as “out”, “sprout”, “trout” etc.

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            prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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            #113

            Like Ah-bout… “bout” pronounced like a fight between two people.

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            • J joeffect@lemmy.world

              This is exactly what they want to happen… most people are not actually bad people, they want better standards of living just like you and everyone else.

              Some people are terrible and racists… but most people are tired of struggling and the rich getting richer… they just want their jobs back and to do what they are used to doing… they want to be okay because everything is fucked up…

              They are being lied to, you are being lied to… everyone is being lied to…

              Not everyone has forgotten their humanity, the people in control who want you to believe so, are the ones that keep telling you that they have

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              meep_launcher@sh.itjust.works
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              #114

              Brecht:

              “When the last [war] came to an end There were conquerors and conquered. Among the conquered the common people Starved. Among the conquerors The common people starved too.”

              No one can trust an oligarch. If they live in your country, they are not your countrymen. If they don’t, they are not the common people who live where they happen to.

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              • D dom@lemmy.ca

                You never noticed that people from the USA are called “Americans” and that many people across the world call the USA “America?”

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                quick_snail@feddit.nl
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                #115

                I’ve noticed a lot of stupid people say a lot of stupid stuff in my life, yes

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                • M m0darn@lemmy.ca

                  From Mary Poppins:

                  Though we adore them individually, we agree that as a group they’re rather stupid.

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                  zetta@mander.xyz
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                  #116

                  Haha, I’m stealing this to describe religious people

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                  • D drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world

                    Could have just not had the war…

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                    merc@sh.itjust.works
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                    Well, for that you’d have to talk to a certain English colonist named “George Washington”.

                    During a time when the English and French were technically at peace, this “Washington” fellow, a Lieutenant Colonel in the Virginia Regiment, ambushed a French detachment of 50 men, killing them all, including their commander who had been carrying a diplomatic message for the British.

                    This “Washington” fellow was a real fuck-up. Not only did he kick off the French and Indian war (also known as the 7 years war) by ambushing and killing a diplomatic courier during a time of peace, he then holed up in a fort which the French attacked and then he surrendered. When he surrendered, he signed a surrender document in which he took responsibility for assassinating Jumonville, the diplomatic courier.

                    This dude continued to fuck up too. He resigned his commission after this because as a colonial, he wasn’t allowed to have the rank he thought he deserved. A year later, he signed on as an aide to General Edward Braddock, who was planning to expel the French from Fort Duquesne. Washington came up with the master plan of splitting the army into a main column and a second smaller “flying column”. The French and their native allies ambushed the divided army and killed 2/3 of them, including General Braddock.

                    After a series of mistakes like that, I can only assume this guy faded into obscurity, forgotten as yet another failed son of a rich aristocrat. History is full of rich children like that who think they can play at “army” but who just keep screwing up.

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                    • TonyOstrichT TonyOstrich

                      Not that I’m trying to pawn off our responsibilities, but I think part of that change needs to come from the rest of the world putting us in our place. Quit bending the knee and letting us get away with murder. Sanction our asses.

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                      freshparsnip@lemmy.ca
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                      #118

                      Cuba is illegal in the Untied States. All other countries should outlaw the Untied States, make it illegal to go there and illegal to possess anything made there, until the Untied States behaves itself.

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                        bc_viper@lemmy.world
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                        #119

                        Every American is the enemy. Unless they deal.with their leader.

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                        • J joeffect@lemmy.world

                          This is exactly what they want to happen… most people are not actually bad people, they want better standards of living just like you and everyone else.

                          Some people are terrible and racists… but most people are tired of struggling and the rich getting richer… they just want their jobs back and to do what they are used to doing… they want to be okay because everything is fucked up…

                          They are being lied to, you are being lied to… everyone is being lied to…

                          Not everyone has forgotten their humanity, the people in control who want you to believe so, are the ones that keep telling you that they have

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                          matlag
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                          #120

                          No matter how good a person could be, I wouldn’t trust them if they are easily manipulated in believing BS. I won’t hate them, but I won’t trust them.

                          Anyone with an bit of judgement could see what Trump was. And yet he was elected. Twice!

                          So all these “good people” have cpntributed to elect a fascist twice already. You want me to trust they won’t elect another one after him? That this is a two times mistake and Canadians can rely on the US after that?

                          Nope.

                          Maybe they were lied to about Trump. They will be lied to again by others about other fascists.

                          You can blame education, oligarchs propaganda, whatever. Point is: Canada can’t rely on the USA, even if Trump goes away.

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                          • tonytonychopper@mander.xyzT tonytonychopper@mander.xyz

                            Over half of the voters support what the government is doing. The US is cooked

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                            soulg@ani.social
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                            #121

                            Yeah and the voters are less than half of the population

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                            • M m0darn@lemmy.ca

                              From Mary Poppins:

                              Though we adore them individually, we agree that as a group they’re rather stupid.

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                              That Weird Vegan
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                              #122

                              from MIB:

                              A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals, and you know it.

                              Yours is more eloquent though.

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                              • merc@sh.itjust.worksM merc@sh.itjust.works

                                Well, for that you’d have to talk to a certain English colonist named “George Washington”.

                                During a time when the English and French were technically at peace, this “Washington” fellow, a Lieutenant Colonel in the Virginia Regiment, ambushed a French detachment of 50 men, killing them all, including their commander who had been carrying a diplomatic message for the British.

                                This “Washington” fellow was a real fuck-up. Not only did he kick off the French and Indian war (also known as the 7 years war) by ambushing and killing a diplomatic courier during a time of peace, he then holed up in a fort which the French attacked and then he surrendered. When he surrendered, he signed a surrender document in which he took responsibility for assassinating Jumonville, the diplomatic courier.

                                This dude continued to fuck up too. He resigned his commission after this because as a colonial, he wasn’t allowed to have the rank he thought he deserved. A year later, he signed on as an aide to General Edward Braddock, who was planning to expel the French from Fort Duquesne. Washington came up with the master plan of splitting the army into a main column and a second smaller “flying column”. The French and their native allies ambushed the divided army and killed 2/3 of them, including General Braddock.

                                After a series of mistakes like that, I can only assume this guy faded into obscurity, forgotten as yet another failed son of a rich aristocrat. History is full of rich children like that who think they can play at “army” but who just keep screwing up.

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                                drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world
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                                And the British crown did not hang the British officer?

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                                  arankays@lemmy.ca
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                                  #124

                                  Canada needs a nuke now more than ever. Build it. And any time the orange fuckhead threatens annexation load it up in the silo.

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                                    Lladra
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                                    Seems low.

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                                    • P prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                                      Do Canadians say “left-tenent” like Brits?

                                      Also, asking someone to spell that word is a pretty tall order lol

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                                      thefool@sh.itjust.works
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                                      The Canadian army says leftenant like the Brits, yes

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                                      • O octopusnemeses@lemmy.world

                                        It’s not ending any time soon. The US supreme court will remain a theocratic conservative majority for most of our lives. Regardless of how old you are. You will be quite old by the time that changes.

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                                        thatkamguy@sh.itjust.works
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                                        A brave-enough Congress could overhaul the Supreme Court, as they had in the past.

                                        Unfortunately that level of courage is missing from most current politicians.

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                                        • F freshparsnip@lemmy.ca

                                          After this nightmare is over, the Untied States need a complete overhaul

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                                          thatkamguy@sh.itjust.works
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                                          #128

                                          Balkanisation might honestly be the only solution; but that would involve the US giving up its current position as the only remaining global superpower.

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